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Aanlen wrote...

As a GIRL, I take offense that in order for somethign to be seen as appealing, it's got to have boobs. I just, srsly? What the **** is this ****? Can a GUY please explain to me why boobs must be palstered on EVERYTHING?


Well, as a GUY, I can tell you that for one thing that breast exist, and that almost all creatures with warm blood have them.

Another fact, is that artist base most of their artwork on things they know of and can draw reference to, so when a person who draws something thinks in terms of drawing a humanoid female character, it's usually has the basic physiology of the female the artist has expereince with, IE we humans when we draw things that are similar to use, such as walking on two feet, have eyes, a mouth, hands, basic human body stuff, we tend to make them more closer to our own body type. Basically, the more human like a character is, the more physically similar the speices is made to appear, to signify the similarity.

And to be honest, that is perfetally okay to do. It doesn't become a problem, espcially when inacted in this case, because it doesn't detract from the character or become distracting. Her body structure is nice, she's not appealing to the horny teenager crowd because quiet frankly, if she were she'd look like a comic book babe with barley any close on, an almost completly exposed breast, and they would be the stripper sized ******.

She is, in essence, done correctly. She doesn't look like a shaved male turian alone, there are other subtler qualities such as the thinner face, smaller frame and physique, and of course the lack of head fringe that make her distinctly not a male turian. What you are basically asking is to throw basic physiology out the window and say, "HEY! I want a bald male turian to be a female! There shoule be no difference at all nor origical work put in! Swap the head, and keep the body as an in game model!" as if the mere thought that a female species might be automically similar to use yet so different at the same time can't exist, and that you need one extreme or the other.

Modifié par xsdob, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:13 .


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TheRealJayDee wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Ashley's new look. 


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Just why couldn't they at least leave the existing characters in peace?


I don´t know why but I find her even more akward then before... before she was just spuinting but atleast she looks in believable way now she looks like... I don´t even know but I realy didn´t like her looks...

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CDR David Shepard wrote...

Aanlen wrote...

As a GIRL, I take offense that in order for somethign to be seen as appealing, it's got to have boobs. I just, srsly? What the **** is this ****? Can a GUY please explain to me why boobs must be palstered on EVERYTHING?


You...just like the others...are the only ones assuming this.

You're the ones who see breasts and automatically think this.

You are the ones who think that breasts are the only thing that can make something appealing.

So you are tellin me, that female turian infiltrator is not meant to be seen as appealing?

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Falaxe wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Aanlen wrote...

As a GIRL, I take offense that in order for somethign to be seen as appealing, it's got to have boobs. I just, srsly? What the **** is this ****? Can a GUY please explain to me why boobs must be palstered on EVERYTHING?


You...just like the others...are the only ones assuming this.

You're the ones who see breasts and automatically think this.

You are the ones who think that breasts are the only thing that can make something appealing.

So you are tellin me, that female turian infiltrator is not meant to be seen as appealing?


If you're asking me if I find the turian female appealing sexually...then the answer is no.

Do I think that she's going to be a kickass female turian...yes.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:17 .


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I thought the topic was about Turian "boobs". But I'm pretty damn sure the female of the species don't have. Besides, all the OP has shown is a crappy screenshot.

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Falaxe wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Aanlen wrote...

As a GIRL, I take offense that in order for somethign to be seen as appealing, it's got to have boobs. I just, srsly? What the **** is this ****? Can a GUY please explain to me why boobs must be palstered on EVERYTHING?


You...just like the others...are the only ones assuming this.

You're the ones who see breasts and automatically think this.

You are the ones who think that breasts are the only thing that can make something appealing.

So you are tellin me, that female turian infiltrator is not meant to be seen as appealing?


1. I don't find her sexy.

2. She's a sentinel, get your facts straight.

3. Her attractiveness is a completly subjective thing, the presence of small and barley noticable breast does not automatically equate sexiness of atractivness. The fact that she possess this atonomy does not make it her sole defining triat, that would be her lack of head fringe and thinner face. She is a blend of familiar and yet very alien appearance, similar to turians in general, they look very alien, but yet there are certain triats that make them very human at the same time.

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Battlepope190 wrote...

Should be pretty interesting if we ever see female Drell...there's no way in hell they can put ****** on THOSE.

Right?


I'm betting drell women will be based on Shiala so yes they will have boobs.

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Ahh ****** and ass, covering up for lack of substance for generations.

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I found a screenshot of the new alien species in ME4:

https://encrypted-tb...c3DEx3dNBZR5XMc

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spirosz wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Grow up.


I can't hear you past the need to over-sexualize everything in the gaming industry.  


Why yes, thats because Nyreen is a great example of over-sexualization.

Like this: 

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Or this:

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Or even this...

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So a turian having  breats is over-sexualized? Really? 

I don't know wether to laugh at your immaturity, or pity your warped view of what sexuality and pandering are. Trust me, Nyreen is nowhere near that level of offensive. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:28 .


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Bob Garbage wrote...

Ahh ****** and ass, covering up for lack of substance for generations.


I think you jumped the gun pretty quickly considering you don't even know anything about the character from the dlc at all.

Are we really doing this now? Reverse sexism? Where we judged harshly on a person based soley on how attractive some people may find them and not even bothering to look at any other traits such as personality or writing?

Modifié par xsdob, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:30 .


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Boobs are gross. Bulges for life, learn the rules!

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Sarcastically asking "Really?" is getting played out fast.

But yeah, breasts on a turian seem strange. Ah well. I'm not planning on purchasing single player DLC for ME3. Ever.

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xsdob wrote...

Bob Garbage wrote...

Ahh ****** and ass, covering up for lack of substance for generations.


I think you jumped the gun pretty quickly considering you don't even know anything about the character from the dlc at all.

Are we really doing this now? Reverse sexism? Where we judged harshly on a person based soley on how attractive some people may find them and not even bothering to look at any other traits such as personality or writing?

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Uuuhhh...we've seen her without the cloak on, and even in the demo, they stated she takes the cloak off. It's not breasts. It's just that her Kasumi get-up makes it LOOK that way.

EDIT: Also, we know that turians give LIVE BIRTH, not eggs.

Modifié par RiouHotaru, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:36 .


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I agree with LinksOcarina, some people here should really learn how to control their own puritanism.

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Wasn't there a really similar thread to this yesterday?

Didn't we all agree that infact you can't see any breasts on the Turian Female? Well that was the conclusion.
I don't understand the complaints when it quite clearly follows the same pattern as the Turian Male design, the only difference is that the female has a larger chest (Larger chest =/= ******) and different head design.

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pirate1802 wrote...

Why the heck did they put her in this stupid Kasumi getup anyway? the armour look was 100% cooler IMO.


the armor is whats underneath

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xsdob wrote...


Well, as a GUY, I can tell you that for one thing that breast exist, and that almost all creatures with warm blood have them....


Incorrect. There are roughly twice as many discovered species of birds (which turians are based off by the way) compared to mammals and they are warm blooded, and also lacking in mammary glands... Also many large dinosaur species were also considered to be warm blooded as well. May want to do some research before spouting out "facts" =P

On the subject of this thread...  what word do you think "mammal" is derived from? Give up?... MAMMARY!

We (mammals) are the ONLY species on this planet that use mammary glands/breasts/teets/bazongas to nurse our young. That is the one universal defining charactereristic of our class. Not warm blood, not hair, NOT LIVE BIRTH, but mammary glands!

So if I were an artist (and I am) and I was told to base an alien, bipedal lifeform on something reptilian or avian, you can be absolutely sure that I would NOT include the single major defining characteristic of mammals and put it into that creation. That would just  be incredibly sloppy work. Seriously that's something you would expect to see in crappy furry art, not some high budget sci-fi epic.

So yeah, when I look at this screenshot, it's just another way to ruin my suspension of disbelief, and I'm sure many others who actually put thought into what they see feel the same way. However, Bioware clearly doesn't want to appeal to that crowd. Instead of taking the time to use some creativity, they just lazily slapped a turian head (with minor modifications) on a human/quarian female body and PRESTO! Female Turian =/

Really this bothers me as much as the Quarian photoshoped stock art face :sick:

Seriously Bioware, you dissapoint yet again...

Modifié par acidic-ph0, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:55 .


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You know, I would not mind even boobs. Sure it's weird and against the codex but sex sells, right?
However this looks like a primitive re-use of Tali's body. It's even cheaper then that Tali's picture - simple photoshop of the default picture that comes with a frame.

Extremely cheap move!

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

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Sure is superficially around here.


So you think it's okay for a space bird to have ******?


totally gonna use that out of context someday, just to mess with peoples heads:P

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I am just really dissapointed over these boobs, because its just so unoriginal. I just, COME ON. It's like they cant figure out any other way to make something look feminine without the boobs. They could just as well just put makeup on her face and-wait, they did that. The eyelashes/eyeshadow/eyeliner/whatever the hell that around her eyes is.

Okai, lets just get this straight. Her having boobs is mostly a problem because just think about this for a second: What is the odds that this completely alien race, ALSO have a sexual selection of the developement of two spherical protrutions on each side of the females chest, at the EXACT same location human/asari/quarian mammari glands are. it is stated in the codex that turians are NOT lactating mammals, so there is no reason for them to have bony protrutions there. But it is kind of silly that I'm reacting this much to the turian titts, seing EVERY OTHER SPECIES IN THIS GALAXY HAS BOOBS. Just, wow. Wow. It's so unoriginal it's funny.

Turians used to fascinate me so much, because their design embodied something diffrent, just like the salarians. They actually seemed alien, and not just like a human in a bodysuit with weird legs and a mask, or blue space babes.

*sigh* I should srsly just give up, bioware has only dissapointed me since ME3... I should just learn to let it go.

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WHO REALLY GIVES A FLYING DAMN AT THIS POINT YOU WILL ONLY HAVE OT HAVE HER FOR 4 DAMN MISSIONS IT ISN'T LIKE SHE IS A PERMA SQUADDIE!!!!

FYI I am also female and I don't see a freaking issue don't like it don't buy the DLC it's as simple as that for Christs sake.

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acidic-ph0 wrote...

xsdob wrote...


Well, as a GUY, I can tell you that for one thing that breast exist, and that almost all creatures with warm blood have them....


Incorrect. There are roughly twice as many discovered species of birds (which turians are based off by the way) compared to mammals and they are warm blooded, and also lacking in mammary glands... Also many large dinosaur species were also considered to be warm blooded as well. May want to do some research before spouting out "facts" =P

On the subject of this thread...  what word do you think "mammal" is derived from? Give up?... MAMMARY!

We (mammals) are the ONLY species on this planet that use mammary glands/breasts/teets/bazongas to nurse our young. That is the one universal defining charactereristic of our class. Not warm blood, not hair, NOT LIVE BIRTH, but mammary glands!

So if I were an artist (and I am) and I was told to base an alien, bipedal lifeform on something reptilian or avian, you can be absolutely sure that I would NOT include the single major defining characteristic of mammals and put it into that creation. That would just  be incredibly sloppy work. Seriously that's something you would expect to see in crappy furry art, not some high budget sci-fi epic.

So yeah, when I look at this screenshot, it's just another way to ruin my suspension of disbelief, and I'm sure many others who actually put thought into what they see feel the same way. However, Bioware clearly doesn't want to appeal to that crowd. Instead of taking the time to use some creativity, they just lazily slapped a turian head (with minor modifications) on a human/quarian female body and PRESTO! Female Turian =/

Really this bothers me as much as the Quarian photoshoped stock art face :sick:

Seriously Bioware, you dissapoint yet again...


Name me a bird that gives birth to live young guineus.

"Turians typically stand over six feet tall, have two long,
proportionately thick fingers and an opposable thumb on each hand, each
tipped with talons, and a set of mandibles around their mouths. The most
distinguishing feature of turians is their metallic carapace, which is a
result of their evolution. Turian features are avian, making them resemble humanoid birds or raptors, however unlike most Earth avian creatures, turians are viviparous and give birth to live young.[1] In 2165, David Anderson
claimed that turians reminded him of the evolutionary link between
birds and dinosaurs. Turians are also recognisable by their voices,
which have a distinctive flanging
effect. Males and females do not differ greatly in physical appearance,
but female turians lack the crest of horns found in the males of the
race. The lifespan of a turian is comparable to that of a human.[2]"

They are nor the same, similar yes, but not the exact same as birds.

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Wait...is she wearing that hood over a full set of Turian armor? Because if she is, that kinda settles it...