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[Calgac]

Caldari Ghost wrote...

DarkseidXIII wrote...

Addressed the games problems? This isn't a problem. The problems affect everyone. This issue doesn't.

Absolutely.

So if something doesn't affect everybody then it shouldn't be changed?  That makes no sense at all.  Nothing would be changed if we followed that logic.  It affects lots of people and that should be enough for it to be at least flagged as something in need of attention.

[DarkseidXIII]

Affects a lot of people by who's count?

[udinbak4]

I used to hate Hunter Mode, now I love it. It takes a couple of hundred waves to get used to it.

[Rotacioskapa]

I like the hunter mode. There's nothing wrong with it. Your problem is that you set your brightness very high in the past then got used to it and now you don't want to lower it.

[Caldari Ghost]

Calgac wrote...

Caldari Ghost wrote...

DarkseidXIII wrote...

Addressed the games problems? This isn't a problem. The problems affect everyone. This issue doesn't.

Absolutely.

So if something doesn't affect everybody then it shouldn't be changed?  That makes no sense at all.  Nothing would be changed if we followed that logic.  It affects lots of people and that should be enough for it to be at least flagged as something in need of attention.

Lots of people may not want it changed. Nearly all pugs I have seen using geth have hunter mode active. Just don't use hunter mode until you know the maps like the back of your hand. It enhances your ability to detect enemies, not the environment. For that it is extremely useful. Hunter mode isn't required on geth anyways.

[coldflame]

This is just another weird design choice Bioware is following. What I don't get is Bioware has stated on numerous occasions that it cares about fan feedback, but for whatever reasons when it comes to hunter mode it just appears to be very stubborn and even a bit defensive.

Personally I think the concern many people has in regard to hunter mode is more reasonable than the 'nerf this and buff that' requests we usually get on this forum. This is because it (using hunter mode) is actually a health and safety concern for many people.

Maybe Bioware only cares about fan feedback that serves its agenda.

[shodiswe]

I can't see why they put up so much unneeded crap on the screen, it does distract a little.

Now if those thigns actualy pinpointed enemy troop movements or had a warning about an enemy sneaking up on you from the back then all that flimflam woudl actualy be useful.

[Dorryn]

Rotacioskapa wrote...

I like the hunter mode. There's nothing wrong with it. Your problem is that you set your brightness very high in the past then got used to it and now you don't want to lower it.

People who have a problem with it have already explained that they tried to lower the brightness settings. It's not about the brightness. I don't know what it is, it doesn't make me sick but I do find it annoying. 

Like said above it's supposed to enhance the user's vision but it doesn't, it makes only half of the screen usable : the part in the center. The other half is so "enhanced" that it becomes hard to see the objective arrows or even sometimes the ennemies, even those highlighted in red !!!

[mybudgee]

Try playing Geth while wearing sunglasses. No, I am not kidding

[Caldari Ghost]

Dorryn wrote...


even those highlighted in red !!!

wtf

Modifié par Caldari Ghost, 11 novembre 2012 - 09:49 .

[Dorryn]

Leland Gaunt wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Honestly don't even understand what aspect of it gives people headaches.

This. I don't get the complaining about the visual. It's an alien race ffs, they should see their environment differently from us.

It's not broken, so no need to fix it.

That point would be valid if this was a FPS, if the camera was placing us behind the character's eyes. But this is not the case, the camera is behind the character's shoulder so how the alien race sees is irrelevant. 

Besides Geth are machines, they don't have eyes, only sensors. They don't even "see" the world, it's just 0 and 1 to them, raw data.
Also, Batarians have four eyes. Are you sure you would like the game to make us see the world as they do?

IMLTHO, these firewords of post-precessing are not about giving us a hindsight of the galaxie's species point of view. It's just a growing habit for game companies to make the game flashier to make it look like the graphics are innovative or whatever crap.

"What? Sharper textures? But you don't need sharper textures look! You have shiny post-processing effects! *throws stars in your eyes* Now buy my game, it looks nice."

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

Bioware already commented on this - two times, I think.

Their response:

"Hunter mode is causing you problems? Play a different class"

[Achertontem]

Just dont use huter mode? I never use it since i think its really annoying and i play geth engineer all the time, really no use for hunter mode there.

[Caldari Ghost]

@dorryan
1s and 0s are subconscious processes. Or else they would have a difficult time navigating physical instances? But that is pointing out a subconscious process as well. They don't "see" the world as 1s and 0s.

[NikkoJT]

People saying "I don't have a problem, so it shouldn't be changed for any reason, ever" - why? What effect would it have on you? "I don't have an issue, so I don't see a reason to change it" is maybe the response you're looking for. It wouldn't exactly cost much dev time to reduce an overlay's effects; why are you so opposed to the idea of a simple fix to make some people able to play with it?

[Caldari Ghost]

NikkoJT wrote...

People saying "I don't have a problem, so it shouldn't be changed for any reason, ever" - why? What effect would it have on you? "I don't have an issue, so I don't see a reason to change it" is maybe the response you're looking for. It wouldn't exactly cost much dev time to reduce an overlay's effects; why are you so opposed to the idea of a simple fix to make some people able to play with it?

Balance? It screws your vision so it becomes harder to view hunter mode as overpowered. For some, hunter mode is already uninhibitive to their vision. If they "fixed" hunter mode, to avoid power creep, i'm sure bioware would want to nerf the bonuses. Krysaed

[Saradas85]

I hate hunter mode deeply. Not for the triangle-ish forms, but the blur. The blur is unbearable and makes the match a pain. I hope some BSNer makes a mod that removes the blur, since BW/EA don't give a damn

[Caldari Ghost]

Saradas85 wrote...

I hate hunter mode deeply. Not for the triangle-ish forms, but the blur. The blur is unbearable and makes the match a pain. I hope some BSNer makes a mod that removes the blur, since BW/EA don't give a damn

Hunter mode is purely for finding enemies. It is hard to see the environment because hunter mode requires you to know the maps inside and out. A hint to this is the fact that it takes away half your shields. 

Hunter mode isn't meant to be the first thing you use if you're new to the game. Balance.

[ollpet]

Same here when i play Geth i take everything except hunters mode.

[Saradas85]

Caldari Ghost wrote...

Saradas85 wrote...

I hate hunter mode deeply. Not for the triangle-ish forms, but the blur. The blur is unbearable and makes the match a pain. I hope some BSNer makes a mod that removes the blur, since BW/EA don't give a damn

Hunter mode is purely for finding enemies. It is hard to see the environment because hunter mode requires you to know the maps inside and out. A hint to this is the fact that it takes away half your shields.

yes, and since it takes away half of the char's shields, I don't see why it should take away half the player's sight too

Modifié par Saradas85, 11 novembre 2012 - 10:40 .

[noxpanda]

I have a lot of issues with HM too, i avoid the GI altogether cause i hate the thought of missing out on so much dps. GE i play without HM, i recently unlocked the trooper, figured id be brave and try HM again, i lasted all of 3 rounds before i could feel a lovely combination of nausea and headache creeping in, so now the trooper is respecced out of HM too.

I really dont see why they cant clear up the blur and tone down the brightness a bit.

[rale828]

I also hate the Hunter mode, it gives me so much headaches after playing it. Which is why i rarely play any of the Geth units.

I just hope they tone it down a little.

[Omega2079]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Honestly don't even understand what aspect of it gives people headaches.

Trying to focus on the blurry outer area of the picture will do it for some. Keeping your eyes fixed on the center and moving the aim to look around helps.

[HLake]

We are not all identical. Some people suffer from motion sickness while others do not. Those that don't will never understand those that do. HM is disturbing for me and other people. It would be very nice if they fixed it. It needs a bit of toning down the blur, making it similar to Destroyer mode, with which no one has any problems that i know of. That's it.

[TheCinC]

Signed, as for the previous petition. It doesn't give me headaches, but there are people who can't use HM at all. Just telling them to play a different class and ignoring the problem is no solution.

For me, it is mostly annoying and makes it harder to see objectives. I wouldn't mind HM being taken down a notch or two, especially not if that helps other people.