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[Seboist]

Bad King wrote...

Control would be a much better canon for Mass Effect 4 - we'd actually get geth in the game that way. Though tbh, I don't see ME4 as feasible, BioWare have shown in the past that they can't keep up with large amounts of variables. How would they keep track of the state of the krogan, the geth & quarians, etc. based on our decisions? The fact that the quarians or geth could be extinct means that there'd be no important geth or quarian characters in the game as BioWare wouldn't want to write a certain character if he/she is dead in give or take 50% of players' imports.

If you side with the Geth there's mention that some Quarian ships escaped the Rannoch system.

[JPN17]

I have a feeling that Bioware's canon ending is synthesis...

[WNxPowder]

Did someone say they wanted a DLC ending?
I feel a Mass effect 4 would have too many critical factors,Krogan/Geth/Quarians/Rachni, and our 8 endings 
fate of Earth?,Reapers still around, or is everyone related

Modifié par WNxPowder, 11 novembre 2012 - 05:09 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Control - WHAT IF we chose the path of the Illusive Man

Synthesis - WHAT IF we chose the path of Saren

Destroy - This was canon Shepard's choice since the beginning of ME1

Says the Destroyer..

[d1ta]

I thought BW said there will be no more Commander Shepard in ME4 (or what ever their next title will be)?
Given the imported variables would probably be a nightmare since there will be tons of things to consider if they continue Shep's story: chose the geth, sided with the quarians, broker peace between them, cure the genophage, not cure the genophage, wrex leader, wreave leader and not to mention the 4 completely different outcome to Shep's decision from refuse, destroy, synthesis or control.
I'm up to having another adventure with Shep (and I'm really attached to her + LI and crew, really) but if they streamlined the story and negates my decision from previous games (like the CB and Rachni X_x') then why bother? Why not just make a new character instead?

No matter how much I like your idea OP, I just don't see it happening sadly =(
This is just my 0.02 imho, don't throw rocks at me XD

[HeatherShep]

I agree.I think the destroy ending should be cannon.Mass Effect was made by the characters it created and shaped.Mass Effect 4 wont be anything of a shell of the name without Shepard in it.

[Nightwriter]

Seemed like they were falling all over themselves to kill Shepard off. Why would they canonize the one ending where he may live? I got the impression they wanted to get rid of him.

[Iakus]

Nightwriter wrote...

Seemed like they were falling all over themselves to kill Shepard off. Why would they canonize the one ending where he may live? I got the impression they wanted to get rid of him.

Well they could try to canonize their darling Synthesis,  but then we'd probably see a bigger poopstorm than a band of hyperactive monkeys at the primate house...

Modifié par iakus, 13 novembre 2012 - 07:20 .

[DarkSpiral]

Iakus, there will be a flaming storm of whatever substance you prefer regardless of what BW does. That's the nature of forums everywhere.

Although, I have to wonder how long people are going to continue to live in denial. They stated, unequivocally, that Shep's story is done. Unlike the DA franchise, where they were somewhat vague about it until DA2's announcement, BW has been quite clear about the state of the protagonist in ME: Shepard's story is done. New character.

[chefcook90]

I'll give you several reasons why I don't like the destroy ending.

1. EDI dies.
2. The geth are wiped out, and Legion's sacrifice was for nothing.
3. If you failed to make peace between quarians and geth and sided with the geth, the quarians also died for nothing.
4. The reapers contained the history of every dead race ever harvested - now that history is lost forever.
5. Oh yeah, EDI dies.
6. Harbinger is one of my favorite characters. Now he's dead too.
7. Shepard is still alive, even though Bioware said ME3 would be the end of Shepard's story.
8. Did I mention EDI dies?

[Ranger Jack Walker]

JShepppp wrote...

I disagree. Like you, I will not give reasons.

What he says^

But yeah, I much prefer the ending which has Shepard ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL of Harbinger and friends.

Modifié par Ranger Jack Walker, 13 novembre 2012 - 10:40 .

[Heimdall]

I don't think they'll choose an ending as canon.

[ghost9191]

chefcook90 wrote...

I'll give you several reasons why I don't like the destroy ending.

1. EDI dies.
2. The geth are wiped out, and Legion's sacrifice was for nothing.
3. If you failed to make peace between quarians and geth and sided with the geth, the quarians also died for nothing.
4. The reapers contained the history of every dead race ever harvested - now that history is lost forever.
5. Oh yeah, EDI dies.
6. Harbinger is one of my favorite characters. Now he's dead too.
7. Shepard is still alive, even though Bioware said ME3 would be the end of Shepard's story.
8. Did I mention EDI dies?

1) edi doesn't die in destroy

2) the quarins would not have died for nothing . they would have died to stop the reapers. which was done

[Heimdall]

BSN really has trouble letting go of their characters.

Shepard is done. A new protagonist and a fresh start is just what the franchise needs narratively speaking, to be frank.

[Nightwriter]

iakus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Seemed like they were falling all over themselves to kill Shepard off. Why would they canonize the one ending where he may live? I got the impression they wanted to get rid of him.

Well they could try to canonize their darling Synthesis,  but then we'd probably see a bigger poopstorm than a band of hyperactive monkeys at the primate house...

Excellent.

Primal uprising! Viva La Resistance! The Krusty Krab is unfair! Mr. Krabs is in there! Standing at the concession! Plotting his oppression!

[EnvyTB075]

Lord Aesir wrote...

BSN really has trouble letting go of their characters.

Now I wonder why that may be....

[Heimdall]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

BSN really has trouble letting go of their characters.

Now I wonder why that may be....

An excessive degree of personal investment coupled with an stubborn refusal to acknowledge that their stories really do end?

Not to mention the refusal to see the possibilities in a fresh start with a fresh slate.  Why not take the hint?  Shep survived in Destroy and lived happily ever after with LI.  Otherwise, Shep is gone.  Is not enough?

Mass Effect can grow beyond Shepard, and honestly distancing themselves from Shepard makes the pile up of all the choices much easier to deal with from a developer standpoint.

[DirtySHISN0]

Lord Aesir wrote...

BSN really has trouble letting go of their characters.

Shepard is done. A new protagonist and a fresh start is just what the franchise needs narratively speaking, to be frank.

Frank Shepard.

[Ieldra]

chefcook90 wrote...
I'll give you several reasons why I don't like the destroy ending.

1. EDI dies.
2. The geth are wiped out, and Legion's sacrifice was for nothing.
3. If you failed to make peace between quarians and geth and sided with the geth, the quarians also died for nothing.
4. The reapers contained the history of every dead race ever harvested - now that history is lost forever.
5. Oh yeah, EDI dies.
6. Harbinger is one of my favorite characters. Now he's dead too.
7. Shepard is still alive, even though Bioware said ME3 would be the end of Shepard's story.
8. Did I mention EDI dies?

You don't like Destroy because Shepard survives? May I mention this is odd? "Shepard's story ends with ME3" means nothing more than that his days of saving the galaxy are done.

Otherwise, I agree with you. And I would like Synthesis as a canon ending partly for no better reason than to stick it to the haters and see the resulting sh*tstorm. I'd just be sorry for those with a more rational take on things, regardless of their choice.

[Nykara]

RE Title. I wish that was the case seriously. There is no mass effect for me if it isn't the case, I just have my doubts that it'll ever happen.

[RiptideX1090]

And nothing of value was lost.

[ChurchOfZod]

ME3 without Shepard is moronic. The character has barely been around for 5 years. Hell, Mario has littered the gaming landscape for 30 and you don't see Nintendo slamming the book closed on him.

Modifié par ChurchOfZod, 13 novembre 2012 - 02:19 .

[Nykara]

ChurchOfZod wrote...

ME3 without Shepard is moronic. The character has barely made been around for 5 years. Hell, Mario has littered the gaming landscape for 30 and you don't see Nintendo slamming the book closed on him.

I am pretty sure more then one person could 'voice' mario, if he was ever even really given a voice in the games..

As much as I really really want Shepard to keep going forever and a day there will come a point that voice actors wont be able to return or will refuse to return. It would have been difficult enough to get everyone back for three games. Although they would have been contracted to do so for the trilogy, those contracts would be over by now. They would have to get everyone to sign up for another and that might not be possible.

Would you accept a different voice actor for one of your favorite characters in the game? I probably would so long as it wasn't Shepard or Kaidan, but that's just it - everyone has different LI's as well. How do you get them all to sign up again? Video game production takes time, Mass Effect would have been in the making for what? 6 years now maybe 7? Taking in to account the time it took to make the original. Most ( yes, I said most, not all ) TV shows with actors don't go past 7 years/seasons, at least not without a lot of changes in cast during that time.

Modifié par Nykara, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:11 .

[Vigilant111]

Ieldra2 wrote...

You don't like Destroy because Shepard survives? May I mention this is odd? "Shepard's story ends with ME3" means nothing more than that his days of saving the galaxy are done.

Otherwise, I agree with you. And I would like Synthesis as a canon ending partly for no better reason than to stick it to the haters and see the resulting sh*tstorm. I'd just be sorry for those with a more rational take on things, regardless of their choice.

S**tstorm for you if synthesized beings are the new antagonists in ME4