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Infernal_Satan wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

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Coalmine wrote...

Why would you want to punish the one guy who didn't mess up as bad as the WHOLE TEAM, and is currently fighting for your lives.  What about a system that auto-kicks players who bleed out / get executed three rounds in a row?


Selecting between the auto-kick and spectating for a long time? I would pick auto-kick.


It's a game, and you force everyone to wait while you enjoy showing off your skills? I have a better idea, why don't you play solo instead?


Do you realize how jealous you actually sound? You really think they just want to show off and that's it? Maybe that's how you feel when you're the Lone Survivor but you shouldn't generalize every single one. This topic seems to have been spawned by jealousy rather than principally annoyance.

That said; you died, deal with it. You have no right to complain and should be grateful if the guy pulls it off, if he doesn't then you can possibly complain, provided they didn't use their consumables. Why on earth do I want to use my consumables when I can take something down how I like to. It's freedom. They are 'rewarded' that freedom when they're alone, they're allowed to do it however they like. Granted, when I'm alone and notice something is taking too long I rocket, but sometimes I don't because I just do not want to or the people kept bleeding out. 

Why on earth should the sole survivor be given even more pressure just because everyone died and you want him to hurry up? To be frank, to turn it back on you and away from the survivor, that's ultimately selfish. Especially if said survivor kept reviving and trying to revive fallen teammates. 

P.S. Counter Strike is CS, this isn't CS. It's completely different and shouldn't be compared.


Oh, so it's my jealousy and fault when the other 2 players also ask edthe guy to finish the wave faster, but he just runs around with a weak weapon against 2 or 3 bosses.


Reread what I quoted, you come across as exceptionally jealous.

It's partially your fault because surprise surprise... You died. Not the guy with a 'weak weapon', but you. 

Besides, just because you come across a few players who don't want to speed things it up it doesn't mean all the other lone survivors in other games should be punished for it. 


So when I hear the other players telling the sole survivor to use his cobra and get the wave over with, I must be hallucinating.

If I have never heard such complaints, then sure I can wait because it's just how everyone plays it. But no, I'm not the only one, that's why I'm bringing this up.


Who said anything about hallucinating? If he doesn't want to use a cobra, he doesn't want to. Selfish yes, but unfortunately it's his decision. Once again, you're the ones that are dead afterall. That doesn't mean all the sole survivors should now be penalized though, should it?

Not going to repeat myself by giving examples because I've already examined the different aspects of this argument. Your topic and request is reasonably narrow minded, it would've been better if it was a simple complaint thread of discussion rather than a full out ultimatum detailing that 'We need a time limit'.

Everything else aside, was this guy a team player at all? Did he do objectives and even try to revive you all?

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Instead of expecting the guy to waste a Cobra (and it's a waste if he can finish the round without it), why didn't you use a medigel (and it'd be a use, not a waste, since you couldn't finish the round without it)?

Whiny children...

Modifié par LandoCalrisian, 11 novembre 2012 - 01:54 .


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UWxMaserati wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

Coalmine wrote...

Why would you want to punish the one guy who didn't mess up as bad as the WHOLE TEAM, and is currently fighting for your lives.  What about a system that auto-kicks players who bleed out / get executed three rounds in a row?


Selecting between the auto-kick and spectating for a long time? I would pick auto-kick.


It's a game, and you force everyone to wait while you enjoy showing off your skills? I have a better idea, why don't you play solo instead?


Lol Wut?!
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Lol Wut?!?!
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LOL WUTTT!!?!?!
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I only got to page two before I got tired of reading this selfish bull****.

Noobs are gonna be noobs.

Infernal_Satan: Go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure or somethin'. Avatar maybe? I hear that's 'Press B to win', sounds like it may be your style.

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To the OP, I actually want to join one of your games now, so I can just kite a husk around for 30 minutes.

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i'd b more sympathetic to your time limit idea OP, if i didn't see so many PUG players refuse to use their damn medi-gels. here's a fresh new idea, if the whole team actually uses their consumables AND EQUIPS THEM IN THE LOBBIES, you would greatly increase the odds of more survivors per wave! i don't mind clutching out a gold wave or two, but wave 8, 9, and even 10 get a bit old. did make me realize i could solo gold however...

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K9lArthur wrote...

To the OP, I actually want to join one of your games now, so I can just kite a husk around for 30 minutes.


And the shoot, missing on purpose and let the husk kill you, as long as that may take :P

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Never tried it but kiting a brute on Vancouver while only going up and down the longest ladders could also be fun.

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I read the first page then realised this thread was going to be a train wreck and skipped to the end.

In short: OP, if you don't want to waste your valuable time after you've messed up and left one person to solo the wave (wasting their time as well I might add), quit the game instead of spectating.

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Two days ago i was carrying the team at wave 9 (we started with full squad, but one of them left after wave 1, he was too underpowered for gold, died three times on wave 1), the other two left while i was completing the wave 9 as last standing player cos they were wiped out, they thought i would never complete the wave (lol)
The mission was successful btw

It's disappointing

Modifié par skiadopsendow, 11 novembre 2012 - 02:30 .


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Protip; don't suck.

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Here's how to fix it.

Host the game.

Tell the guy to use rockets/suicide or else you'll quit.

If he doesn't, quit to force him to restart the wave for being an idiot.

Like everyone else said.... Don't leave the idiot by his lonesome, but he really should try to finish the wave quickly or suicide just to be polite.

Modifié par landylan, 11 novembre 2012 - 02:34 .


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DJ Airsurfer

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As a frequent lone survivor I'm tired of morons like you dying wave after wave just because you A: Didn't have gel to start with B: used up all gel on wave 1-3.

If you die, too f*cking bad. Deal with it.

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-JP- wrote...

So, essentially you're complaining that the guy who is saving your asses wave after wave isn't doing it quickly enough?

Are you serious?


+10

I couldn't said it better.

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Silcron wrote...

K9lArthur wrote...

To the OP, I actually want to join one of your games now, so I can just kite a husk around for 30 minutes.


And the shoot, missing on purpose and let the husk kill you, as long as that may take :P


Husks can't kill you if you're on a really beefy character...

I sat on a Gold match with my melee Krentinel (Juggernaut Shield gear, no shield mods, melee dmg--martial artist--fitness expert rage evo's) letting the last husk melee me and try to kill me...it would get my shields down, then fall off. By the time it jumped onto me again, my shields had fully regenerated.

Catch-22.

EDIT: May have been silver, but I'm pretty sure it was gold. OP belongs in bronze anyway, though...so it's still appropriate.

Modifié par xcrunr1647, 11 novembre 2012 - 02:39 .


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RGFrog wrote...

Your entire argument is beyond selfish. All of your arguments.

The only reason you're making them is because YOU failed and can't admit that it was YOUR fault.

There's absolutely nothing that's requiring you to stay in the game if the survivor is taking too long (by your singular opinion). Just quit and find a new lobby.

If it takes a player 15 minutes or more to fix the mess YOU created, then you should be thanking that player for not wasting YOUR consumables. And since it happened 4 waves, it's obvious that the player also made you credits that you really don't deserve.

You and your 2 other team members were carried. Plain and simple. To come here and complain that the carry took too long is the pinnacle of entitled absurdity.

Leave the game next time and go back to playing bronze. Then learn to take responsibility for your own failings.


Excellent advice for you OP.

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landylan wrote...

Here's how to fix it.

Host the game.

Tell the guy to use rockets/suicide or else you'll quit.

If he doesn't, quit to force him to restart the wave for being an idiot.

Like everyone else said.... Don't leave the idiot by his lonesome, but he really should try to finish the wave quickly or suicide just to be polite.


Seriously? :huh:

I will never suicide just to be polite, that is probably one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen here <_<
The OP and his team, except lone survivor, were incompetent and you want lone survivor to die intentionally because he is carrying their collective butts through 4 waves and taking too long.  We should eat you and the OP.

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I'm absolutely in favor of the general consensus here: Once you bleed out, you have no say anymore about how the wave should be handled. Quit if you don't like it.

There seems to be a certain group of players who is particularly dick-ish about the way they want to be carried. I've gotten quite a few direct messages on xbox live full of profanities right while I had to solo a wave because the entire team went down with the full spawn budget still ahead, just because it takes maybe 7 minutes or so for me to finish the wave – Sorry that I'm not better/faster, but the deal is: I typically won't vote to kick people with crappy loadouts or who have performed sub-par in a previous game, but if you act like an ass, that's an entirely different story.

The argument about your precious time is entirely bogus. Sure, you want to play, but then don't die so often or switch to a lower difficulty. It's not like the soloing player is actively preventing you from playing: That was actually your own inability.

If you want to participate, get on the mic and help the soloing player out, e.g. tell them when enemies sneak up on them from behind and stuff like that. In the next wave, at least stay close to the better player(s), so that they have an easier time reviving you over and over, so it becomes less likely for you to bleed out. Use your own rockets if the situation becomes too convoluted for you to handle. Play a class that synergies well with what the better player plays, or a class with supporting abilities (shield restoring turrets, shield boost, etc...).

See, there are still so many things you can do as a not-so-stellar player on a higher difficulty to be of use to your team AND minimize the chances of dying over and over. Being snide to the player that carries you is not one of them.

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Infernal_Satan wrote...

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Jesus man. I hope and pray that this thread is just clever trolling.

In case it is not: Dear OP, you are the most ego-centric and self-entitled person on the entire BSN. And that IS saying something.... Just the nerve to come here complaining that you were not carried fast enough to the credits you did not deserve make me vomit a little bit in my mouth. Seriously man, wtf?


If the sole survivor finish soloing in 5 minutes, I won't mind giving him all the credits.

I rather play the game than waiting for credits.

If BW changes the joining restrictions then I can withdraw this request because that can solve the missing player problem after quitting.

But no, I stay in the game because I don't want to leave the other players behind.


Yeah, whatever would they do without you?

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DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Protip; don't suck.


I dont want to be harsh but..... This.

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landylan wrote...

Here's how to fix it.

Host the game.

Tell the guy to use rockets/suicide or else you'll quit.

If he doesn't, quit to force him to restart the wave for being an idiot.

Like everyone else said.... Don't leave the idiot by his lonesome, but he really should try to finish the wave quickly or suicide just to be polite.


Yeah, cuz the guy who survives is the idiot...

What more sage advice do you have to share, Oh wise one? *eyeroll*

Modifié par PurebredCorn, 11 novembre 2012 - 04:15 .


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Coalmine wrote...

Why would you want to punish the one guy who didn't mess up as bad as the WHOLE TEAM, and is currently fighting for your lives.  What about a system that auto-kicks players who bleed out / get executed three rounds in a row?



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TC: I stay in the game so the other players have an easier time. *is dead for 4 rounds*

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Infernal_Satan wrote...

Aetika wrote...

I would suggest to quit the mission, but abandon that guy after all his hard wok seems even more asinine move than suggesting to pressure him with time limit, so I am afraid I have no advice for you. Except maybe...grow upImage IPB


I'm sorry, grown ups have less time to play because they have work and family to attend to. They can't spend much time to play games, and when they do, they try to enjoy every seconds.


Naw that sounds like excuses to me, being grown is no worse than being a high school student again. I have a wife and child, I work from 6am to 1pm everyday come home and live life and still have enough time to buy games every release season, beat them within the week, and sit and play multiplayer for hours on end.

in short if you're pressed for recreational time regularly, something in your lifestyle is amiss. 

Modifié par darkblade, 11 novembre 2012 - 04:42 .


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 Im slightly happy to see this guy still getting the perverbial smack down. 
I love you BSN:wub: