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[Infernal_Satan]

NathS wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

So when I hear the other players telling the sole survivor to use his cobra and get the wave over with, I must be hallucinating.

If I have never heard such complaints, then sure I can wait because it's just how everyone plays it. But no, I'm not the only one, that's why I'm bringing this up.

I never heard people complaining about someone taking too much time soloing a wave, only compliments when successful.

Then I'm used playing with gentlemen

I don't count "FINALLY!!!" as complements

[TheKillerAngel]

Infernal_Satan wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

If this gets implemented, my yet to be tested method of trolling teams I'm forced to carry gets tossed out the window.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time

If people aren't going to put their full effort into the game and instead join a match with the expectation of getting carried they deserve to have their time wasted. Instead of finishing wave 10 I should have kited around a single Abomination for half an hour (the entire team was on the ground for waves 7+).

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 11 novembre 2012 - 12:33 .

[NathS]

damnit double post

Modifié par NathS, 11 novembre 2012 - 12:33 .

[darkpassenger2342]

op, theres really no case you can make, you should definitely give up.
you cant be critical of ANYTHING you view in spectator mode, as your ass is on the floor.

[Infernal_Satan]

TheCinC wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

However, watching the sole survivor dance around for 15 mins helps nothing. Why? Because most of the enemies were killed before the 3 players die, so the sole survivor can run in circles kiting the last few enemies without anything slowing him down. 

So the 3 players died for the team and have to waste another 15 minutes?

So the three players who consistently get themselves killed are better than the one who can finish the wave solo? The player finishing the wave solo hardly does anything except taking care of the leftovers? I find that hard to believe.

I hardly ever play a match where the entire team gets themselves killed except for one, never mind three times in a row. But when it happens, something is very wrong with the team. When you go down permanently, you've used your medigel either too early in the game or too late to prevent yourself from being stomped on or bleeding out or you were too close to a boss and got yourself sync killed or something like that. If that happens to you, that is your mistake, not of the one having to finish the wave solo. Whenever that happens to me, I kick myself and watch as the final player has to work hard to stay alive. When you're the last man standing all remaining enemies run at you as quickly as possible and even a few of them can quickly overwhelm you. Even that husk that jumps you as you're taking on a brute can kill you or a swarmer which you trip on while your shields are down. You need to be aware of everything and if you fail, the whole team wipes.

Unfortunately, I see people use their medigels as I am running towards them to revive them, sometimes on waves 1-3 when there really is no need to do so. So they run out of medigel and don't have any left for later. I see people not reviving a teammate that is right under their noses as they are too focused on making a kill. It sounds a lot like you were in a match like that, where people didn't work together.

I never said they die consecutively. You people just like to assume the worst so you can prove your point.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Infernal_Satan wrote...
Sometimes players can survive longer by being douchebags. They don't help out with the objectives, they don't protect their teammates who are doing the objectives, they stay away from the heat while their teammates are being swarmed.

And you call them better player.


If you do something right people won't be sure you've done anything at all

In my experience, the ones who survive are the ones who perform better on their own. Obviously our experiences differ.

[iplay222]

Infernal_Satan wrote...

iplay222 wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

NathS wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

markshaxted wrote...

If the other players aren't willing to use a medigel or an ops pack, I won't use a rocket, especially if I don't need to. If you don't like watching others play then learn how not to die, or leave the game and try again... Otherwise be thankful there is someone there to carry you and earn the xp and credits the rest of the team wouldn't be able to earn on their own.

I have yet to run into players who refuse to use medigel.

So how come there's a guy soloing the wave ? Did the rest of the team die at least 5 times each already ?

Now that's wasting everyone's time

We can't control who dies or not. Sometimes they die because they tried to finish the objective before the time runs out. And I believe a lot of players still carry only 3 medigels with them

 

Well, you can control if you die and and the other players can control is they die, if they are decent players they sure as hell won't die several times in a match. 

You seem jealous of the fact the person soloing the wave for 15 mins is not you. And if said player has to solo a wave for 15mins then you and your team is doing something terribly wrong

If I'm the sole survivor (which happens more than you think because most people here just assume I'm a lousy player), I will use my cobra to kill the bosses left in the wave.

The 2 advantages of doing so:


1. Reduce the chance of failing the wave
2. Reduce the waiting time of the others


And I don't see why this is such a bad idea, and why soloing for 15 mins is highly praised.

Have you ever thought that the players may have few missles left overall (not in game, they could still have 5 missles but only have 10 or so in total) and they don't want to waste their consumables carrying their teammates when they can take down the enemy without them.

Just because you use YOUR missles and get a solo wave over quickly doesn't mean everyone should conform to YOUR ideals and playstyle when you/your team fails.

They are also disadvantages of using missles:

1. you waste a consumable on something you wouldn't otherwise need to do if your teammates were alive.

2. you can use other means to dispose of the enemies

Modifié par iplay222, 11 novembre 2012 - 12:35 .

[Jay Leon Hart]

Infernal_Satan wrote...

Jay Leon Hart wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...
So when I hear the other players telling the sole survivor to use his cobra and get the wave over with, I must be hallucinating.

If I have never heard such complaints, then sure I can wait because it's just how everyone plays it. But no, I'm not the only one, that's why I'm bringing this up.

I need names, so I can block these selfish cry babies and never have to suffer a game with them complaining they die too much.

It seems that we belong in 2 factions

You believe that games should be played seriously, losers should get out.

I believe that games should be enjoyed every minute you're playing, time waster should get out.


Let the war begin.

I belong in faction 3;
Games should be fun and if they stop being fun, for whatever reason, I stop playing them.

[Infernal_Satan]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

If this gets implemented, my yet to be tested method of trolling teams I'm forced to carry gets tossed out the window.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time

If people aren't going to put their full effort into the game and instead join a match with the expectation of getting carried they deserve to have their time wasted. Instead of finishing wave 10 I should have kited around a single Abomination for half an hour (the entire team was on the ground for waves 7+).

No one wants to be getting carried. They may not have the skills or experience, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to finish the game.

[graywolfpvw]

If I'm the sole survivor (which happens more than you think because most people here just assume I'm a lousy player), I will use my cobra to kill the bosses left in the wave.

The 2 advantages of doing so:


1. Reduce the chance of failing the wave
2. Reduce the waiting time of the others


And I don't see why this is such a bad idea, and why soloing for 15 mins is highly praised.
[/quote]

1.  There might only be 8 troops left since this might have happened in an earlier round.  Not going to missle unless they are all group hugging me.  I might fail but hey at least I tried.
2.  See above posts for why no one thinks that this is important.

And I don't see why you continue to troll.  And since you are very much so trolling...I am done with this thread. 
And yes this is hilarious.

[KalilKareem]

Jesus man. I hope and pray that this thread is just clever trolling.

In case it is not: Dear OP, you are the most ego-centric and self-entitled person on the entire BSN. And that IS saying something.... Just the nerve to come here complaining that you were not carried fast enough to the credits you did not deserve make me vomit a little bit in my mouth. Seriously man, wtf?

[darkpassenger2342]

"And when you looked back and saw only one set of footprints, you know that the guy youre talking crap about carried your ass"

[GromKosh]

Miss clicked...

Modifié par GromKosh, 11 novembre 2012 - 12:38 .

[TheKillerAngel]

Infernal_Satan wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

If this gets implemented, my yet to be tested method of trolling teams I'm forced to carry gets tossed out the window.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time

If people aren't going to put their full effort into the game and instead join a match with the expectation of getting carried they deserve to have their time wasted. Instead of finishing wave 10 I should have kited around a single Abomination for half an hour (the entire team was on the ground for waves 7+).

No one wants to be getting carried. They may not have the skills or experience, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to finish the game.

That is true, but what am I supposed to make of a person who joins a Gold match without putting on any consumables, using a crap loadout?

[Jay Leon Hart]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

"And when you looked back and saw only one set of footprints, you know that the guy youre talking crap about carried your ass"

That's going on the list... 

[RGFrog]

KalilKareem wrote...

Jesus man. I hope and pray that this thread is just clever trolling.

In case it is not: Dear OP, you are the most ego-centric and self-entitled person on the entire BSN. And that IS saying something.... Just the nerve to come here complaining that you were not carried fast enough to the credits you did not deserve make me vomit a little bit in my mouth. Seriously man, wtf?

^^ This.

Get over it or leave the game. Either way it won't matter. You're dead, not contributing and are simply a waste of bandwidth at that point.

Modifié par RGFrog, 11 novembre 2012 - 12:47 .

[Infernal_Satan]

iplay222 wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

iplay222 wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

NathS wrote...

Infernal_Satan wrote...

markshaxted wrote...

If the other players aren't willing to use a medigel or an ops pack, I won't use a rocket, especially if I don't need to. If you don't like watching others play then learn how not to die, or leave the game and try again... Otherwise be thankful there is someone there to carry you and earn the xp and credits the rest of the team wouldn't be able to earn on their own.

I have yet to run into players who refuse to use medigel.

So how come there's a guy soloing the wave ? Did the rest of the team die at least 5 times each already ?

Now that's wasting everyone's time

We can't control who dies or not. Sometimes they die because they tried to finish the objective before the time runs out. And I believe a lot of players still carry only 3 medigels with them

 

Well, you can control if you die and and the other players can control is they die, if they are decent players they sure as hell won't die several times in a match. 

You seem jealous of the fact the person soloing the wave for 15 mins is not you. And if said player has to solo a wave for 15mins then you and your team is doing something terribly wrong

If I'm the sole survivor (which happens more than you think because most people here just assume I'm a lousy player), I will use my cobra to kill the bosses left in the wave.

The 2 advantages of doing so:


1. Reduce the chance of failing the wave
2. Reduce the waiting time of the others


And I don't see why this is such a bad idea, and why soloing for 15 mins is highly praised.

Have you ever thought that the players may have few missles left overall (not in game, they could still have 5 missles but only have 10 or so in total) and they don't want to waste their consumables carrying their teammates when they can take down the enemy without them.

Just because you use YOUR missles and get a solo wave over quickly doesn't mean everyone should conform to YOUR ideals and playstyle when you/your team fails.

They are also disadvantages of using missles:

1. you waste a consumable on something you wouldn't otherwise need to do if your teammates were alive.

2. you can use other means to dispose of the enemies

Logic fail

1. The situation happens is all teammates are dead. You can't change that when it happens

2. Sure, then why the army keeps developing new and more powerful weapons if you can kill everyone with a knife? (Or maybe you live in the ME world but not in the real world)


If you guys place the importance of consumables over time, then I will suggest EA to drastically raise the price of the package.

[iplay222]

Jay Leon Hart wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

"And when you looked back and saw only one set of footprints, you know that the guy youre talking crap about carried your ass"

That's going on the list... 

Indeed, it is going on several lists.

I love this thread truly, it is one of the most ridiculous things to come out of BSN as of yet.

[Allthunder]

If I'm spectating while ONE player is clutching, he/she can take all the time they wish; I only wish there was a way to give them a higher % of the payout.

[Infernal_Satan]

KalilKareem wrote...

Jesus man. I hope and pray that this thread is just clever trolling.

In case it is not: Dear OP, you are the most ego-centric and self-entitled person on the entire BSN. And that IS saying something.... Just the nerve to come here complaining that you were not carried fast enough to the credits you did not deserve make me vomit a little bit in my mouth. Seriously man, wtf?

If the sole survivor finish soloing in 5 minutes, I won't mind giving him all the credits.

I rather play the game than waiting for credits.

If BW changes the joining restrictions then I can withdraw this request because that can solve the missing player problem after quitting.

But no, I stay in the game because I don't want to leave the other players behind.

[Infernal_Satan]

Allthunder wrote...

If I'm spectating while ONE player is clutching, he/she can take all the time they wish; I only wish there was a way to give them a higher % of the payout.

If there are incentives to help him out so we can play again faster, I sure support this.

[Daxamite]

Sorry op but I do not support your post at all. Why are 3 of you dying over and over unless you're on a level you're not suited for ?

[TheCinC]

Infernal_Satan wrote...
I never said they die consecutively. You people just like to assume the worst so you can prove your point.

Yes you did, how else do you end up with 60 minutes spent spectating? Did they all get synckilled by the same Banshee at the same time?

[Jay Leon Hart]

Infernal_Satan wrote...
Logic fail

1. The situation happens is all teammates are dead. You can't change that when it happens

2. Sure, then why the army keeps developing new and more powerful weapons if you can kill everyone with a knife? (Or maybe you live in the ME world but not in the real world)


If you guys place the importance of consumables over time, then I will suggest EA to drastically raise the price of the package.

For point #2, this a game and not real life, so... yeah.

If they increased the price of "the package" (I'm guessing you mean the equipment packs?) then they should also take a % of the credits earned by a downed teammate and give them to the survivors at the end of the game. 10% per wave seems fair... 

(no, I'm not serious )

[Infernal_Satan]

[quote]graywolfpvw wrote...

If I'm the sole survivor (which happens more than you think because most people here just assume I'm a lousy player), I will use my cobra to kill the bosses left in the wave.

The 2 advantages of doing so:


1. Reduce the chance of failing the wave
2. Reduce the waiting time of the others


And I don't see why this is such a bad idea, and why soloing for 15 mins is highly praised.
[/quote]

1.  There might only be 8 troops left since this might have happened in an earlier round.  Not going to missle unless they are all group hugging me.  I might fail but hey at least I tried.
2.  See above posts for why no one thinks that this is important.

And I don't see why you continue to troll.  And since you are very much so trolling...I am done with this thread. 
And yes this is hilarious.

[/quote]

1. If there's only 8 troops left and you need more than 5 minutes to finish them, then you seriously have some huge issues. I'm talking about using the cobra against the big guys, not the minions.

2. Or those who care never think of coming to the forum, or those who have fun soloing slowly are too scared to have their precious previous plaything removed