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[legion999]

Rojahar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

So because they killed off one character, they hate their audience?

Seems legit.

If a story stops licking the backside of the player for half a second, its suddenly a grand betrayal and conspiracy to wrongfully lash out at the playerbase out of spite.  We should boycott all movies, games, and books where anything tragic ever happens to something the audience cares about, and I dunno, only watch stupid pony cartoons like pedophiles.

[legion999]

Rojahar wrote...

Yeah, I agree, I'm wrong, I apologize. All the insulting sh*t I talked about everyone else was totally OK and we can rally behind that, but making fun of grown men who obsess over My Little Pony is totally off-limits.

You do realize what a pedophile is, right?

[slimgrin]

Rojahar wrote...

Yeah, I agree, I'm wrong, I apologize. All the insulting sh*t I talked about everyone else was totally OK and we can rally behind that, but making fun of grown men who obsess over My Little Pony is totally off-limits.

I'd rather obsess over ponies than some obnoxious Madonna wannabe. See? We can all play this game.

[Addai]

Good endings are hard to pull off, and I think there is pressure to be epic/ exciting/ "I never saw it coming" which leads to melodrama and fan rage. If an ending is satisfactory but just sort of ordinary, you hear criticism about that. So what are game writers supposed to do.

[ObserverStatus]

This is totally the way that I felt when Blizzard killed of Edmund Duke in StarCraft Brood War. Damn you, Chris Metzen..

[darthnick427]

......Wow really? Sure it's too bad Cortana died but Cortana dying isn't nearly enough to ruin the experience after that. There are so many other awesome characters that can easily fill the gap left by Cortana. Besides the only death that will actually ****** me off is the Arbiter tbh.

[Nerevar-as]

Addai67 wrote...

Good endings are hard to pull off, and I think there is pressure to be epic/ exciting/ "I never saw it coming" which leads to melodrama and fan rage. If an ending is satisfactory but just sort of ordinary, you hear criticism about that. So what are game writers supposed to do.

True, but criticism from who? Those 75 perfect reviewers aren´t the ones who will make ME4 a success. I think most fans would like series to end in a coherent way than get an explanation for everything out of the blue in the last chapter (and to make it worse the one in ME3 was so bad it looks to be the new low standard among the fandom).

[MrDizazta]

I liked the ending of Halo 4. It was clearly built up from the established lore that AI's don't live past 7. Cortana sacrificed herself to protect John from the Didact. And here you are complaining that there is some great conspiracy to ruin a franchise. So you rather the series keep the status quo as opposed to John finally understanding it is to be a human being.

[GodWood]

Erik Lehnsherr wrote...
@Rojahar, I agree with every point apart from that last insipid and immature sentance.

*Sentence.

[Alpha-Centuri]

Cortana's death was very well done, and had me emotional a little bit. Her death doesn't = hate the audience. It reminds me of the Thane situation. He has very little time to live, established that there isn't any cure known to man. He was gonna die soon regardless of Kai Leng. Same thing with Cortana. If the didact didn't kill her, she had maybe a day or two left?

[PARAGON87]

I thought the Halo 4 ending was okay, but I got pissed when half of the achievements I was supposed to get by completing the game didn't unlock. (Finished on Heroic, didn't get any of the achievements).

[Addai]

Nerevar-as wrote...
True, but criticism from who? Those 75 perfect reviewers aren´t the ones who will make ME4 a success. I think most fans would like series to end in a coherent way than get an explanation for everything out of the blue in the last chapter (and to make it worse the one in ME3 was so bad it looks to be the new low standard among the fandom).

Oh I agree that ME3's ending was bad.  Seriously bad.  The extended cut was better and I think showed signs that an actual writer got to work on it.

[sympathy4sarenreturns]

Halo has a storyline?

[iSpider-Man]

they built up to her death and made it very emotional and engaging; making the ending solid and pretty epic.

[LPPrince]

billy the squid wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

 Because killing off 1/2 of the main character doesn't qualify as digging yourself into a hole you can't get out of?

Well, I dunno what does, then.

I would advise you to never read the series Game of Thrones, if you think this way.

A Song of Ice and Fire you mean(A Game of Thrones is just the first book's title) but good point nonetheless.

[Seboist]

darthnick427 wrote...

Besides the only death that will actually ****** me off is the Arbiter tbh.

I was sad that he wasn't in H4.

[sammysoso]

Huh? They only killed one character.

It even made sense given the story they're trying to tell. Going deeper into Chief as a person (Cortana has basically been his human side, now with her gone he's going to have to face his fundamental brokenness)

And the story is by no means over, Halo 4 is the first act in a planned trilogy, and we've got Spartan Ops providing episodic content.

Not sure where you're getting this "writers hate their audience" thing from.

[Costin_Razvan]

Addai67 wrote...

Good endings are hard to pull off, and I think there is pressure to be epic/ exciting/ "I never saw it coming" which leads to melodrama and fan rage. If an ending is satisfactory but just sort of ordinary, you hear criticism about that. So what are game writers supposed to do.

Especially in an industry where a game like Halo 4 gets story scores higher then Wicher 2.

Yes I just said it. An RPG with real choices and consequenes in the story, with incredibly complex characters and situations get lower scores then Halo 4. I have no quarrel with Halo, in fact if Microsoft decided to pull their heads out of their asses and release Halo 3 and 4 on PC I'd gladly play them.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:41 .

[Allan Schumacher]

No more discussion about pedophilia please and thank you.