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[Ghost]

Da_old_Boss wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

I disagree. Halo may have less upfront important stuff with the characters, but it definately has a better and deeper story. It is more spread out, because in halo, the events of history have a huge impact on the present situation. The new trilogies basic plot is "Events that started thousands of years ago finally come to a close."

In the end, as with many things, it does fall down to personal preference, though.

True I guess you are right and I don't think extensive was the right word to say and I find the ME universe better even though I love both. I have been playing since CE and have read the books(f*ck the flood though), played all the games, and even watched Halo Legends. 

[Ghost]

Seboist wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

Mass Effect has no lore. The constant retcons and inconsistencies attest to that.

Don't act like Halo has not had retcons or inconsistencies before.

Modifié par Ghost1017, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:00 .

[Ghost]

Il Divo wrote...

Da_old_Boss wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

I disagree. Halo may have less upfront important stuff with the characters, but it definately has a better and deeper story. It is more spread out, because in halo, the events of history have a huge impact on the present situation. The new trilogies basic plot is "Events that started thousands of years ago finally come to a close."

In the end, as with many things, it does fall down to personal preference, though.

The presentation of the narrative also feels more epic, largely because of the outstanding soundtrack. The first time I started up Halo 1's title screen, I knew I was in for something incredible.

Same. Halo 4 fails to capture that same feeling IMO. I know many people may not agree with me but I thought ODST did an excellent job with its score.

[Ghost]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

Do they at least bother to stay true to established lore, or keep ignoring it for pointless visuals?

Halo has good lore.

[Ghost]

legion999 wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

Have you seen the amount of lore Halo has?

Yes.

[Da_old_Boss]

legion999 wrote...

Da_old_Boss wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I have no quarrel with Halo, in fact if Microsoft decided to pull their heads out of their asses and release Halo 3 and 4 on PC I'd gladly play them.

You would just pirate/steal them like every other PC user would. That is why they won't put the games on PC too many hackers and theives.

Of course that explains why Steam is such a massive fail- oh wait it isn't. Saying every PC user is a pirate is like saying every console owner is an intellectually inferior CoD fanboy, it's moronic and false.

They always find a way.

Modifié par Da_old_Boss, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:36 .

[Alpha-Centuri]

There is more amount of lore for Halo for sure. Not getting into it about quality (although I would say it's just as good as ME's lore), but in terms of quantity, there are more halo books that incorporate a longer timespan, more Halo games, etc. The lore is well on its way of getting to Starcraft level.

[sympathy4sarenreturns]

Halo 4....take the 'Protheans'...ad a 'me' somewhere in the middle, and you get their new alien race. Wtf???

[Foolsfolly]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo 4....take the 'Protheans'...ad a 'me' somewhere in the middle, and you get their new alien race. Wtf???

To be fair Halo's older than Mass Effect and they already had most of this forerunner lore in place before the Protheans made the scene. I even got quite a few friends to play ME1 by saying "It's like Halo the RPG."

To continue to be fair the idea's about as old as dirt itself. Here's the tvtropes entry for Precursors.

There's no such thing as a new idea.

[Drone223]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo 4....take the 'Protheans'...ad a 'me' somewhere in the middle, and you get their new alien race. Wtf???

......Right

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I think it's derived from "Prometheus" ... an ancient greek mythical figure (a titan) used by intellectuals in recent centuries to feel smart!

[Lotion Soronarr]

If a story has massiv plot holes then you can say it sucks.
If a story completely changes the personality of establishedcharacters, then you can say it sucks.
If a story has people acting stupid for the sake of plot progression then you can say it sucks.


But ranting because they killed off a character?
Oh noes.
How can possibly the creator be the one to decide the face of his own characters and the plot direction!!! It should be the fans, because we're the most reasable (and definately not compeltely-obseesed) and we know the lore and the wrold DA BEST.


****

I can get not liking the decision to kill off a cahracter, but the writer doesn't hate you or anyone else.

There's nothing personal (unless there is. Seriously, with fans like that, as a writer, I might do something like that on purpose).

[hangmans tree]

Khayness wrote...

I ADMIT EVERYTHING!

saying it like this?


PS how do you place media in the post box to be playable on bsn, not a link to YT?

Modifié par hangmans tree, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:50 .

[Il Divo]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

Mass Effect has no lore. The constant retcons and inconsistencies attest to that.

Don't act like Halo has not had retcons or inconsistencies before.

True, despite how much Seboist might want to convince himself otherwise. Reach is a perfect testament to that by contradicting major parts of Halo: The Fall of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx. If I recall correctly, they actually rewrote the first three novels to be in keeping with the game.

[Il Divo]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo 4....take the 'Protheans'...ad a 'me' somewhere in the middle, and you get their new alien race. Wtf???

And this indicates...what, exactly? Considering Halo has been around far longer than Mass Effect and that Prometheus is an actual Greek deity, the idea that they simply stole the idea from Mass Effect is weak. You could even say the other way around that the Protheans were copied from the Forerunners, but as others have already pointed out, the mysteriously disappearing ancient civilization has existed longer than either franchise.

[kobayashi-maru]

Still not finished Halo 4 but continuity wise,Halo universe science wise and general common sense based on backstory she was always going to die. It would be cheap to go space magic and give her tech that saves her.

Its pretty obvious that Doc who she based on will make V2 who chief mistrusts until she saves him in H5. Then in H6 you know some fore runner tech will reboot old Cortana who will be evil until end were she saves everyone by destroying herself permenently.

[Naughty Bear]

kobayashi-maru wrote...

Still not finished Halo 4 but continuity wise,Halo universe science wise and general common sense based on backstory she was always going to die. It would be cheap to go space magic and give her tech that saves her.

Its pretty obvious that Doc who she based on will make V2 who chief mistrusts until she saves him in H5. Then in H6 you know some fore runner tech will reboot old Cortana who will be evil until end were she saves everyone by destroying herself permenently.

you have no idea.

[kobayashi-maru]

No I dont it just the most cliched way to go hoping for the unexpected with 343.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I don't think H4 had a ****ty ending, unlike ME3, it had a sacrifice instead of a convoluted suicide.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Da_old_Boss wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

I disagree. Halo may have less upfront important stuff with the characters, but it definately has a better and deeper story. It is more spread out, because in halo, the events of history have a huge impact on the present situation. The new trilogies basic plot is "Events that started thousands of years ago finally come to a close."

In the end, as with many things, it does fall down to personal preference, though.

The presentation of the narrative also feels more epic, largely because of the outstanding soundtrack. The first time I started up Halo 1's title screen, I knew I was in for something incredible.

Same. Halo 4 fails to capture that same feeling IMO. I know many people may not agree with me but I thought ODST did an excellent job with its score.

I'll probbably catch flak for it, but ODST is my favorite Halo...

[Archereon]

"Halo has a good story"

Lolwut? It's basically your standard "people go to planet, then aliens" story that 99% of sci fi shooters follow. (That's Halo 1 at least. 2 and 3 are a stock MSci Fi story) If you're talking about background fluff, I'll give you that to some degree but...

Honestly, I'd said the status of Halo's lore is somewhat like that of The Elder Scrolls: There's plenty of interesting stuff in background "fluff", often some genuinely clever stuff, but when it comes down to it, the developers just aren't willing to show anything other than the exceedingly generic side of the setting in the primary media of the franchise, probably for fear of alienating the fans.

Modifié par Archereon, 19 novembre 2012 - 02:38 .

[Ghost]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Da_old_Boss wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Halo has a storyline?

Hate all you want just because it's an Fps. It has a better story than Mass Effect for sure, along with an interesting lore too.

I'm a diehard halo fan but just no. Halo's lore is not as extensive or interesting as ME's. The story is good for the most part but I wouldn't rank it higher than Me's. I respect your opinion though.

I disagree. Halo may have less upfront important stuff with the characters, but it definately has a better and deeper story. It is more spread out, because in halo, the events of history have a huge impact on the present situation. The new trilogies basic plot is "Events that started thousands of years ago finally come to a close."

In the end, as with many things, it does fall down to personal preference, though.

The presentation of the narrative also feels more epic, largely because of the outstanding soundtrack. The first time I started up Halo 1's title screen, I knew I was in for something incredible.

Same. Halo 4 fails to capture that same feeling IMO. I know many people may not agree with me but I thought ODST did an excellent job with its score.

I'll probbably catch flak for it, but ODST is my favorite Halo...

I liked it a lot. It was a fun adventure and a nice departure from the whole save the world situation.

[Ghost]

kobayashi-maru wrote...

Still not finished Halo 4 but continuity wise,Halo universe science wise and general common sense based on backstory she was always going to die. It would be cheap to go space magic and give her tech that saves her.

Its pretty obvious that Doc who she based on will make V2 who chief mistrusts until she saves him in H5. Then in H6 you know some fore runner tech will reboot old Cortana who will be evil until end were she saves everyone by destroying herself permenently.

I'm pretty sure Cortana is coming back too.