Which is probably why I liked it so much, it wasn't the "OMG EVERYTHING IS AT STAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" story we see so much of these days, it was like firefly in alot of ways, it was about your buds.Ghost1017 wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I'll probbably catch flak for it, but ODST is my favorite Halo...
I liked it a lot. It was a fun adventure and a nice departure from the whole save the world situation.
Modifié par someguy1231, 20 novembre 2012 - 03:11 .
MichaelStuart wrote...
People really need to learn to accept death in fiction
Modifié par strive, 20 novembre 2012 - 01:48 .
No, people colonized worlds, aliens show up, aliens misguided by decietful leaders, aliens blindly attack. That is how it starts. The first 3 games are far from what you believe them to be. Consider the events of halo 2 and 3, some of which your character engineered.Archereon wrote...
"Halo has a good story"
Lolwut? It's basically your standard "people go to planet, then aliens" story that 99% of sci fi shooters follow. (That's Halo 1 at least. 2 and 3 are a stock MSci Fi story) If you're talking about background fluff, I'll give you that to some degree but...
Honestly, I'd said the status of Halo's lore is somewhat like that of The Elder Scrolls: There's plenty of interesting stuff in background "fluff", often some genuinely clever stuff, but when it comes down to it, the developers just aren't willing to show anything other than the exceedingly generic side of the setting in the primary media of the franchise, probably for fear of alienating the fans.
Modifié par Da_old_Boss, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:07 .
someguy1231 wrote...
I completely disagree with the OP. Halo 4's campaign is almost unanimously loved from the Halo forums I've visited. Almost all complaints I've seen are multiplayer-related (as usual for Halo game). Franchises killing off main characters doesn't mean they hate their audience. It means they're showcasing a world where death is a real possibility for characters. Just because some franchises do it badly (ME3, obviously) does not mean everyone does, nor does it mean no franchise should do it.
Oh, and for those RPG elitists who think Halo's story is simplistic and bare-bones *coughSympathy4Sarencough*, perhaps you should compare the Expanded Universes of Halo and Mass Effect:
Halo EU: 11 novels (with another upcoming), 6 comic series, 5 supplemental books, an anthology film (Halo Legends), and a 5-episode web series (Forward Unto Dawn).
Mass Effect EU: 4 novels, 7 comics, an upcoming anime film
Now which franchise is the one lacking in depth?
Modifié par Ghost1017, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:55 .
It bothered me how much they changed Cortana's look. On ther other hand, Jen Taylor's acting is superb.strive wrote...
I thought the ending was good. Cortana helped save humanity and the one person she cared most about, overcame her rampancy and finally became at peace with herself. She lived a damn good 8-ish years and went out kicking ass. MC also got some much needed character/emotional development throughout her struggles with rampancy and her eventual demise.
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Which is probably why I liked it so much, it wasn't the "OMG EVERYTHING IS AT STAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" story we see so much of these days, it was like firefly in alot of ways, it was about your buds.Ghost1017 wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I'll probbably catch flak for it, but ODST is my favorite Halo...
I liked it a lot. It was a fun adventure and a nice departure from the whole save the world situation.
And sunshine on my shoulder.
Nope, MP is fun and balance is heavily present except for with that darn DMR.Ghost1017 wrote...
The multiplayer on the other hand is a whole different story. 343 basically killed custom games, forge, file sharing, and everyone being on the same level in one fell swoop. Spartan Ops is just a few rehashed areas of the campaign and multiplayer.
Modifié par Da_old_Boss, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:16 .
So those who spend more time on MP should have more access to firepower than others? One of the things I liked about Halo was eveyone was on the same playing field. The matchmaking is the worst it's ever been. People also have to be more concerned with their loadouts because everyone uses precision weapons i.e. BR and DMR which turns matches into long range shootouts or hit player then shoot in head. I've had fun in war games H4 but CG,F,FS are much worse than reach and 3.Da_old_Boss wrote...
Nope, MP is fun and balance is heavily present except for with that darn DMR.Ghost1017 wrote...
The multiplayer on the other hand is a whole different story. 343 basically killed custom games, forge, file sharing, and everyone being on the same level in one fell swoop. Spartan Ops is just a few rehashed areas of the campaign and multiplayer.
Well spops is going to be a LOT of areas when completed, so it should be expected that they would reuse them.
Modifié par Ghost1017, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:40 .
Modifié par Ghost1017, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:08 .
Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:31 .
Do you not ever use the map-based loadouts? They are there for a reason. The weapons used really depends on the map, i may have gotten more kills with the lightrifle than any opther weapon, but the storm rifle takes a close second place.Ghost1017 wrote...
So those who spend more time on MP should have more access to firepower than others? One of the things I liked about Halo was eveyone was on the same playing field. The matchmaking is the worst it's ever been. People also have to be more concerned with their loadouts because everyone uses precision weapons i.e. BR and DMR which turns matches into long range shootouts or hit player then shoot in head. I've had fun in war games H4 but CG,F,FS are much worse than reach and 3.Da_old_Boss wrote...
Nope, MP is fun and balance is heavily present except for with that darn DMR.Ghost1017 wrote...
The multiplayer on the other hand is a whole different story. 343 basically killed custom games, forge, file sharing, and everyone being on the same level in one fell swoop. Spartan Ops is just a few rehashed areas of the campaign and multiplayer.
Well spops is going to be a LOT of areas when completed, so it should be expected that they would reuse them.
Da_old_Boss wrote...
Do you not ever use the map-based loadouts? They are there for a reason. The weapons used really depends on the map, i may have gotten more kills with the lightrifle than any opther weapon, but the storm rifle takes a close second place.Ghost1017 wrote...
So those who spend more time on MP should have more access to firepower than others? One of the things I liked about Halo was eveyone was on the same playing field. The matchmaking is the worst it's ever been. People also have to be more concerned with their loadouts because everyone uses precision weapons i.e. BR and DMR which turns matches into long range shootouts or hit player then shoot in head. I've had fun in war games H4 but CG,F,FS are much worse than reach and 3.Da_old_Boss wrote...
Nope, MP is fun and balance is heavily present except for with that darn DMR.Ghost1017 wrote...
The multiplayer on the other hand is a whole different story. 343 basically killed custom games, forge, file sharing, and everyone being on the same level in one fell swoop. Spartan Ops is just a few rehashed areas of the campaign and multiplayer.
Well spops is going to be a LOT of areas when completed, so it should be expected that they would reuse them.
Modifié par Ghost1017, 21 novembre 2012 - 06:17 .
Took me about 6 hrs on Legendary Solo which includes Cutscenes, Dying, etc.Elton John is dead wrote...
Halo 4 seems like a £5 purchase for me simply due to how short it is...
I mean I was expecting Legendary to offer longer time like with Halo 3 and Reach but 5 hours?
Still there's Spartan Ops I suppose...
Ghost1017 wrote...
The forums I visit say its the worst campaign in Halo's. For me, I didn't enjoy it that much...here's a few reasons
1. The game is short (took me 6 hours on legendary)
2. The didact is only seen in two scenes the whole game.
3. The covenant turning excuse was "A lot can happen in four years"
4. The music does not compare to previous games.
5. The legendary ending is just two seconds of Chief's face.
6. Mission design is VERY similar to past Halo's
The multiplayer on the other hand is a whole different story. 343 basically killed custom games, forge, file sharing, and everyone being on the same level in one fell swoop. Spartan Ops is just a few rehashed areas of the campaign and multiplayer.
someguy1231 wrote...
Ghost1017 wrote...
The forums I visit say its the worst campaign in Halo's. For me, I didn't enjoy it that much...here's a few reasons
You must know some very peculiar Halo fans then. My experience is the complete opposite.1. The game is short (took me 6 hours on legendary)
That's about the same length as every other Halo game took me.2. The didact is only seen in two scenes the whole game.
Sometimes less is more. Bioware should've learned that lesson with Kai Leng. Making the Didact so mysterious and aloof served his character much better.3. The covenant turning excuse was "A lot can happen in four years"
The Expanded Universe covers this subject in more detail, for those players that want it. Besides, Chief had been in stasis for years so he had no way of knowing either.4. The music does not compare to previous games.
I chalk that up to Marty O' Donnell fanboys more than anything else. His music is certainly excellent, but the music in Halo 4 is a worthy replacement IMO.5. The legendary ending is just two seconds of Chief's face.
While I admit to being somewhat disappointed about showing Chief's face, in terms of content it's comparable to previous Legendary endings (the brief scene of Requiem at the end of Halo 3, or the scene of Johnson fighting an elite at the end of CE).6. Mission design is VERY similar to past Halo's
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If they had changed it there'd be tons of complaints about that. Besides, change for the sake of change is often just as bad as refusing to change.The multiplayer on the other hand is a whole different story. 343 basically killed custom games, forge, file sharing, and everyone being on the same level in one fell swoop. Spartan Ops is just a few rehashed areas of the campaign and multiplayer.
I can only speak from experience, but none of those have been an issue for me. I thought Forge is better than the one in Reach, and File Sharing has worked fine for me. All it takes is one to two hours to unlock the really important stuff, and it barely makes a difference anyway. Spartans Ops are just rehashes of campaign? Firefight in Reach was also taken directly from the campaign. SpOps is basically Firefight with more of a story attached to it.
Modifié par Ghost1017, 24 novembre 2012 - 09:38 .
I was just saying...Ghost1017 wrote...
Most of the maps are close quarters and it doesn't seem you read my post.
Ghost1017 wrote...
1. Most players take a lot longer to complete Halo games without being on legendary. Halo 4's length is about as short as ODST which is not good considering ODST was made in 1 year as opposed to Halo 4 which started development in 2009. This is probably the most common complaint.
2. It's a completely wasted antagonist. He gets an introduction scene and a death scene. That's it. What was the point of the Didact? It's worse that he's killed with a QTE.
3. Why didn't Master Chief ask the crew of the Infinity about the Covenant? Why didn't Del Rio debrief MC? I'm aware that the newer novels touch up on what happened before but the explanation ingame is just terrible.
4. The music for me is forgettable with the exception of a few key tracks which were excellent.
5. The scenes were longer in the other Halo games even ODST. Either way, I would have preferred they not show Chief's face in the games and leave the EU for that.
6. People are complaining about the repetition and lackluster design(i.e. go through corridor shoot, go through corridor shoot, go through corridor shoot/press button). Halo Reach's mission design was almost excellent. Another complaint would be the overuse of QTE's in the campaign with it being worse in Coop because other players are forced to wait on the particular player that has activated it. Also, the "return to battlefield" sign in Campaign was very annoying.
7. All the maps are too restrictive or small. Options for Custom games is less than what is was in Reach. Filesharing for Public is still not up.Specializations give new players a harder time becuase they have less abilities than those who have been playing. Firefight at least allowed Variety, SPOPS is just a XP helper.
EDIT: Here's a good thread on custom games. forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
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