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N7 ElusiveOne

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Zhuinden wrote...

You can't honestly say there was nothing wrong with this game.
Especially considering how they used to say, "this is the end of a trilogy, so we're allowed to make as many endings as we want, to represent the complicated and tough choices you've made as your Shepard" what did we get? We get incinerated by a beam or blow up the universe. That's not a real choice, and it's especially not "diverse". Remember, before the EC, there was only one ending in three colors.



Your post is about proving that you were indeed tricked, I at no point claimed the game had no flaws. My point is that Bioware must have guaged the reaction to the endings as something bad that cannot be repeated. I just don't expect us to be doing this same song and dance post ME4.

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I've read it and I don't get who he is thanking.

Is is thankning Bioware for making the game or is he thanking people for buying the game?

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Read it...don't know what to think. He seems like a nice enough person...hard to hate the guy for the abomination that was the ending. Hopefully with all of this negative feedback from fans BW will return to the way it used to be... the gods of RPG games :)

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

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Oh, looks like Casey is finally leaving his bunker. But nah, this sweet talk ain't gonna work.


I'll thank him for ME1 and ME2. That's it.


Thanks for those Casey.

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What lonely, angry people some of you are. I'm surprised that they haven't all been chased off by the misguided negativity.

The man played a large part in creating my favorite video game series, and one of the more compelling pieces of interactive fiction I've come into contact with. I'm glad to see that it means as much to them as it does to us, and I hope that continues into the future. Everyone benefits.

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:22 .


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He crashed the car and will be allways remembered for doing so. So no I will not thank you.
I would have thanked him if he woudn't have lied and then insulted us fans as uninteligent fools who
do not understand art. You created a great game but over took yourself.

So please mr. Hudson and the whole leading Biostaff instead of thanking us where no thanks are justified rather say sorry. Say sorry that we screwed up we will do better in future. Better late then never! Even Sony could do that!

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Brownfinger wrote...

What lonely, angry people some of you are. I'm surprised that they haven't all been chased off by the misguided negativity.

The man played a large part in creating my favorite video game series, and one of the more compelling pieces of interactive fiction I've come into contact with. I'm glad to see that it means as much to them as it does to us, and I hope that continues into the future. Everyone benefits.





Agreed :-)

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Casey... Artistic integrity... WHERE DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT?!
You are not artistic and You have no integrity.
And no sweet talk will change that. I do not remember being praised for not breaking the glass. I remember being punished for breaking one. That's what it is all about.
Most of the people will speak kindly of You... when You are dead. When You are alive people will ****, people will swear. And as customers that the same very Casey was making promises...
They have the right to do so. And yeah it is human hypocritical natu.re ( suddenly everybody loves the person that died -_-' Crazy, crazy people and their easy changable opinions )

There is no redemption. There was no going back - The "Most anticipated game of 2012" title should have make You weary of that the very same day ME3 was given it.
Now, sadly, it can only be given "The most disappointing game of 2012".

Modifié par IReuven, 13 novembre 2012 - 10:12 .


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Aww! :3

Looking forward to the new IPs! If any of them includes a steampunk/urban fantasy theme I might just owe BioWare/Hudson a kidney...

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How do we know he's not lying about this too?

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Meh I already forgave him long ago because he's rather handsome. Isn't he?

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ElusiveOneN7 wrote...

Mr Cloud wrote...

Oh, looks like Casey is finally leaving his bunker. But nah, this sweet talk ain't gonna work.


You can't still be bitter about the ending. If anything lets hope Bioware has learned something from all of this.


Considering they have yet to even address the issues, I doubt they will. Though, I never said it was impossible.

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breyant wrote...

Casey seems like a really nice guy. He shouldn't be thanking us, we should be thanking him. Regardless of how you feel about ME3, he gave us one of the greatest sci-fi trilogies of all time. I have spent literally hundreds of hours playing these three games and I don't regret a second of it.


This. And people are still moaning over the ME3 ending? Jesus move on!

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Eurhetemec wrote...

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This whole thanking each other after a monetary transaction is a little weird


No, it is not. If people didn't do that, society would be a pretty awful place. I'm sure some people would like it to be that way, but most normal thank the people they buy things from, and most sellers do the same. Not thanking each other is abnormal.



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Eurhetemec wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

This whole thanking each other after a monetary transaction is a little weird


No, it is not. If people didn't do that, society would be a pretty awful place. I'm sure some people would like it to be that way, but most normal thank the people they buy things from, and most sellers do the same. Not thanking each other is abnormal.


Pandora's box has already opened on that sadly. The world now has anonymyty on the internet which allows them to turn to their dark feelings.

It's a good thing most of this is still in the minority, despite everyhing in the end. 

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lostmercenary99 wrote...

"collector’s style game package"

If true it would have included all the bloody DLC.

perhaps it didn't all fit on the disk? 

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Thank you Casey for creating a series that made me excited about gaming again. For years I got into sports games because I felt most games really just sucked then I got Mass Effect and then played Mass Effect and after Mass Effect 2 its hard for me to play any game because I want that level of quality in every game. Sure Mass Effect 3 has its problems and is not at the level of Mass Effect 2 but seriously I have been gaming since the mid 80s and Mass Effect 2 is easily my favorite game of all time. Seeing the trilogy end was bitter sweet for me.

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KevWestBeats.com wrote...

lostmercenary99 wrote...

"collector’s style game package"

If true it would have included all the bloody DLC.

perhaps it didn't all fit on the disk? 

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Meh I already forgave him long ago because he's rather handsome. Isn't he?


He IS a fairly attractive dude :D

I think people also like to forget that the teams that make these games are never one person.  We're talking hundreds of people, ridiculous hours during crunch weeks; regardless of what we think of the endings and plot, most of these folks had no input on the creative direction of the game and were just trying to do their jobs as well as they damn could.  Toast to them too.

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Well, I will forever thank Casey and the team for Mass Effect 1, one of my favourite game ever.

I hope someday to find another game as special :)

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ElusiveOneN7 wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

You can't honestly say there was nothing wrong with this game.
Especially considering how they used to say, "this is the end of a trilogy, so we're allowed to make as many endings as we want, to represent the complicated and tough choices you've made as your Shepard" what did we get? We get incinerated by a beam or blow up the universe. That's not a real choice, and it's especially not "diverse". Remember, before the EC, there was only one ending in three colors.



Your post is about proving that you were indeed tricked, I at no point claimed the game had no flaws. My point is that Bioware must have guaged the reaction to the endings as something bad that cannot be repeated. I just don't expect us to be doing this same song and dance post ME4.


Must have. Sure. It was supposed to be a trilogy - and it never got a decent ending. Not to mention, it was supposed to end in the first place. There shouldn't be an "ME4", because it's not meant to be "a trilogy in four parts".
I personally feel betrayed a bit, and can only look at this "We are making something new! We didn't even know how to start and finish the last game and lied in all of your faces about it!" message with bitter disgust.

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You can't honestly say there was nothing wrong with this game.

You can't say that about any game in existence. No matter how well developed a game turns out, you're eventually going to find a problem or frustrating moment.

He IS a fairly attractive dude...

Well, I mean... no comment.

Is is thanking Bioware for making the game or is he thanking people for buying the game?

It is primarily intended towards the Mass Effect Fanbase.

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DominusVita wrote...

You can't honestly say there was nothing wrong with this game.

You can't say that about any game in existence. No matter how well developed a game turns out, you're eventually going to find a problem or frustrating moment.


Yes, but that usually isn't that "the game is pretty much the opposite of what it was advertised as, and there's only one, abrupt, nonsensical ending for everyone" :wizard:

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Yes, but that usually isn't that "the game is pretty much the opposite of what it was advertised as, and there's only one, abrupt, nonsensical ending for everyone.

Outside of the occasional YouTube trailer, I don't bother paying attention to advertising. Gamer's Intuition/Instinct is a hell of a lot more accurate in quality determination than a 30-second commercial or the back of a DVD-Box. Doesn't always work perfectly, though.

I do get what you mean - it's not what people were hoping for. For the record, I never cared for the ending. Not painful/awful, but more of a "...What just happened o_o" sort of ending.

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DominusVita wrote...

Yes, but that usually isn't that "the game is pretty much the opposite of what it was advertised as, and there's only one, abrupt, nonsensical ending for everyone.

Outside of the occasional YouTube trailer, I don't bother paying attention to advertising. Gamer's Intuition/Instinct is a hell of a lot more accurate in quality determination than a 30-second commercial or the back of a DVD-Box. Doesn't always work perfectly, though.

I do get what you mean - it's not what people were hoping for. For the record, I never cared for the ending. Not painful/awful, but more of a "...What just happened o_o" sort of ending.


Especially because they didn't even think it through, I mean, the EC retcons the explosion of the relays, meaning in the original ending, everybody dies in the galaxy. Not to mention, even if they didn't explode with the relays going supernova, the fleets would be stranded on Earth - which is funny because the Turians and Quarians would all starve to death. Come on, why else would there be "Dextro Rations" on a random planet in Leviathan?
Honestly, it was an ending where the more you thought about the loose ends, the more you realized that this is not "bittersweet", this is just ridiculous. Considering, well - everybody dies. You'd think after a trilogy, you'd gain some sort of happiness in the end.

But I guess that was a while ago. Still, I don't trust them for their lack of quality story-telling in multiple aspects of the game (Dr. Eva, anyone? They even removed all elements of surprise by showing a video recording of her going up against everybody. This is so opposite in contrast to how you had no idea who to trust on Feros or Noveria).

We should all just go back and play Final Fantasy VI. At least that had a decent story and even though the world was in a devastated state, the heroes prevailed and lived on to rebuild it.