26 réponses à ce sujet

[Adenov12]

While my computer isn't amazing, it is decent!  I'm running on:

750a SLI mobo
8800GT 512
4Gb DDR2
Athlon X2 4200+
Auzentech X-Plosion 7.1 Cinema
Win7 Ultimate 64bit

When I'm playing this oh so frustrating game, my FPS stays around 25-30, dipping into the mid teens randomly (Massive fluctation for doing nothing but stand still) and gets even worse when I get into combat going down to about 12-14 FPS!!!  This happens with all settings, I get no improvement from going from high to low settings >.<!

When I disable my soundcard in Device Manager, my fps jumps to 40, and stays there!!!  (I've also tried my Realtek HD Audio onboard, it didn't give any improvement, both sound cards have issues)  ...So that is obviously the problem, but I can't find anything on this forum that has a workaround to turning off sound completely, its stupid to have to play through a dialogue rich game without any sound.

Modifié par Adenov12, 03 janvier 2010 - 06:00 .

[Gorath Alpha]

In order to benefit from taking the decoding chore off of the CPU, you must have the type sound card that includes its on decoding hardware, and the typical $40 to $90 audio cards omit that function.  The ones that include it typically are priced above $100 each.  I am using the same CPU in one game machine, with a slower video card, and similar audio card.  I haven't noticed slowdowns that bad. 

(Whenever I quote any USD amounts, I never refer to storefront operator pricing, but rather always to eTailer prices.)

Here's one for $153 after rebate that apparently is what you would need:

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

I also do not allow the game to connect to the web site, and usually play with the LAN disconnected, so that PC is not even able to have the Internet, and doesn't need any AV, firewall, etc.

Gorath
-

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 03 janvier 2010 - 02:28 .

[Adenov12]

Wierd... I did spend a lot on this card; bogus deal then... http://www.tigerdire...8626&CatId=2771



Ugh looks like I'm going soundless.

[00livevil00]

i installed dirt 2 which changed my directx 10 to 11 my framerate started suffering somwhere around this time

[Gorath Alpha]

AFAIK, you either have Dx11, or you don't. It is part of Windows 7, just like Dx10 is part of Vista. However, this game runs in Dx9, not in either of those newer Direct3D APIs, so if the Dx9 setup has been damaged in any way, it may require a fresh install now.

[HulksmashThor]

I too do not allow the game to connect to the website by disconnecting the internet and thus eliminate the need for any AV, firewall etc. I've got a rather cheap sound card installed (it cost me about $35) and don't experience any of these problems with FPS.

[Tylmarande]

Strange... I only have an FPS problem when I'm in a wide open area (such as Denerim or Amaranthine) or when I have to face a massive number of enemies.



I think my computer simply has a problem with loading NPC's.

[Gorath Alpha]

Tylmarande wrote...

Strange... I only have an FPS problem when I'm in a wide open area (such as Denerim or Amaranthine) or when I have to face a massive number of enemies.

I think my computer simply has a problem with loading NPC's.

There are two different causes for slowdowns in games such as this one.  When the CPU is a good one, and the GPU is not (very common), the video card cannot render the animation as rapidly as the developers planned for, unless the screen resolution is dropped down low. 

If the GPU is a good one, and the CPU is not as good, it is the number of running AI scripts that affects the speed that the animation can run.  A slow CPU simply cannot handle the larger mobs well enough.  You can anticipate such CPU-based slowdowns even with some decent CPUs, in certain places, Denerim being one of those. 

[Tylmarande]

That makes sense, Thank you.

[Tylmarande]

I suddenly realize that I forgot to ask what I needed to do to fix this problem. does the whole computer need an overhaul or do I need to replace specific parts?

[Pickles]

Hi.
I have a similar set up except I got a 9800GT (basically an 8800GT) and use the onboard Realtek HD audio.

Check your NVidia Control Panel and see whether or not PhysX is enabled. Try disabling it and see if that helps.

Also. If you have any Antialiasing or Anistropic settings on try disabling them. For the Graphic Detail setting ingame, change it to "Medium". Going from Very High to High for me only increased my framerate by 1fps while going from Very High to Medium increased it by 6fps. Turning off framebuffer effects increased my fps by about 2fps.

Texture Detail didn't do anything for performance probably because I (we) have decent enough cards to handle high setting.

Make sure your video and sound drivers are up to date.
The latest NVidia drivers for the 8800GT are dated April 13th 2010.
The latest Realtek HD Audio drivers are dated April 6th 2010.
No idea about your soundcard. That's where the similarities end.

You can check what you currently have by going to Start (The window icon bottom left)->Run. Then type dxdiag.

I feel I should warn you that your system is below recommended settings. The weak component being your processor. If your really serious about pc gaming, that's the part I'd recommend you upgrade and not just for Dragon Age. The rest of your system should be fine for a while.
If you think you might be interested in upgrading your processor, find out what motherboard your using or what socket type the AMD 4200+ has. I think it's AM2. If so... the best upgrade for an AM2 board might be the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3.0Ghz). Those things cost like 40-50 bucks now. Optionally (and very recommended), you could get a heatsink for your new cpu for a grand total of ~$100.

For comparison, your current 4200+ is 2.2Ghz.

-Edit-
Whoa... that's some huge spacing there forums...

Modifié par Pickles, 06 mai 2010 - 06:23 .

[Tylmarande]

I'm a little slow. Was that response for me?

[Pickles]

No I guess not. heh,,,

I just saw this was 4 months old...

Hey, maybe the OP will come back someday and I'll get my +1karma.



.... :/

[Tylmarande]

dxdiag will show me my computer specs, right? I'll post them shortly

[Tylmarande]

Post contents deleted by user.

Modifié par Tylmarande, 06 mai 2010 - 07:52 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Tylmarande wrote...

dxdiag will show me my computer specs, right? I'll post them shortly

IMO, the formal "report" part of that is excessively detailed, but almost everything is in there (somewhere, but I go crosseyed trying to find it all).  I included descriptions of how to call up far simpler and faster Windows tools than DxDiag, in this message here: 

PC Hardware Basics (and inventorying PC Components)

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

Your question was somewhat impossible to answer (premature) until you do offer up the information (see outline):

Basic Hardware Specification Chart (Empty so far)

Processor Manufacturer: AMD / Intel
Processor Name / Type: Athlon 64 / Pentium / C2D / dual core / quad, etc.
Processor Speed:  ?.? Ghz (or AMD Performance Number)
Operating System / Service Pack: WindowsXP with SP #?, Win7, Vista ? (Oh, no!)
System RAM: ? ? GBs (MBs, if less than 1024 ? )
Video (GPU) Manufacturer: ATI / Nvidia (only those two are supported, PERIOD, so answer which of them you have)
Video Card Model: (examples) Radeon HD 5670 / Geforce GT 240
Video Card Driver Version: Catalyst ?.? / Nforce ??.??
 . . (use the numbers, not the word "latest")
Video Card onboard RAM: ? ? ? MBs
Sound Card Manufacturer:
Sound Card Model:

[Tylmarande]

alright here's everything you asked for. Some of it may be wrong, since (like I said before) I'm a little slow and I may have looked at the wrong thing. If somethings wrong let me know and I'll re-look it up. I only left one field blank.

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Procerssor Name: Pentium 4 CPU 3.20 GHz x2
Processor Speed: 3.20 GHz (I think.)
OS/Service Pack: Win7 Ultimate Edition 32 bit
System RAM: 4GB
Video(GPU) Manufacturer: ATI
Video Card Model: Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP (Microsoft Cororation WDDM 1.1)
Video Card Driver Version: (this is probably a problem here: the driver date says 4/24/2009) 8.56.1.15
Video Card onboard RAM: (How do I check this?)
Sound Card Manufacturer:VIA-IC Ensemble, INC
Sound Card Model: Envy24 Family Audio Controller WDM

-EDIT-
I've been informed that some of the ram in the computer might have gone bad, if that makes a difference.

Modifié par Tylmarande, 06 mai 2010 - 07:58 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Tylmarande wrote...

alright here's everything you asked for. Some of it may be wrong, since (like I said before) I'm a little slow and I may have looked at the wrong thing. If somethings wrong let me know and I'll re-look it up. I only left one field blank.

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Procerssor Name: Pentium 4 CPU 3.20 GHz x2

( Serious problem of slowness there )

Processor Speed: 3.20 GHz (I think.)
OS/Service Pack: Win7 Ultimate Edition 32 bit
System RAM: 4GB
Video(GPU) Manufacturer: ATI
Video Card Model: Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP (Microsoft Cororation WDDM 1.1)
Video Card Driver Version: (this is probably a problem here: the driver date says 4/24/2009) 8.56.1.15

( Yes, that is "somewhat" of a problem )

Video Card onboard RAM: (How do I check this?)
Sound Card Manufacturer:VIA-IC Ensemble, INC
Sound Card Model: Envy24 Family Audio Controller WDM

-EDIT-
I've been informed that some of the ram in the computer might have gone bad, if that makes a difference.

If so, that is a very problematic situation than nmust be corrected (bad RAM replaced). 

The P4 has been obsolete for six years, ever since the AMD X2s first appeared, and no brand name company I'm aware of has sold any of them in about four years now.  Yours just doesn't have the ability to play through Denerim without bogging down.  That Radeon 2600 XT is comparatively less obsolete than the CPU is.  Personally, I always had a poor opinion of all the Pentium P4 series, so you may want to wait on other opinions. 

I don't think you can use your mainboard, your CPU, or your RAM in any upgraded system containing the drives, power supply, video card, and external peripherrals. 

G

[Tylmarande]

Something else I've recently discovered (may as well make my problem more specific, eh?)

If I take my main character from the camp to denerim alone, I don't experience any lag unless I hit an extremely large hostile mob (which would also kill me, since I'm alone). But If I take a full party in, it lags horribly. Also, there's more or less a 50/50 chance of lag in buildings, depending on the number of usable objects/hostile npc's in them

-Edit-
I take it my processor and the bad ram are 3/4 of the problem, then?

Modifié par Tylmarande, 06 mai 2010 - 08:16 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Whether the RAM was any good or not, in the past four years, the industry changed to DDR2 and DDR3; you probably have the older plain DDR RAM.  Your sidekicks have their own AI scripts, which are more complcated than the usual opposition member scripts. 

[Tylmarande]

Yup, my computer runs on regular DDR Ram.

[Pickles]

Hey mang it's me again Dr.Observant.

The Pentium 4 you got is pretty dated nowadays. Unfortunately it's a socket 478 cpu which means your motherboard is only compatible with socket 478 processors of which you already have one of the better ones. Basically there is no upgrading your current system.
No one likes hearing about how their computer should be shelved right next to the T-Rex fossils. Sorry :[. If you want to keep PC gaming, you're gonna need a new computer.

When you have a full party your computer has to render their models, armor, weapons, animation, and all the scripts associated with them. Same goes for enemies. This can easily overload older computers.

Modifié par Pickles, 06 mai 2010 - 09:45 .

[Tylmarande]

Well, that's terrible news... for my friend Terry. Like I said, it's not my computer, and I'll be getting a new one soon in preparation for a new semester of college. May as well make it a gaming one, eh?

-Edit-
For now, I suppose I'll replace the bad ram and play through the lag.

Modifié par Tylmarande, 06 mai 2010 - 09:57 .

[Gorath Alpha]

While considering a computer purchase, you may want to take the article you were referred to already

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

and become very familar with what it covers. 

[dick_buttkick]

I had the problem with fps but i fixed it this way (processor is phenom X3)



http://www.hardwarec...our-phenom.html