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[mopotter]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Archereon wrote...

I've never really seen the point of adding dating sim elements to games (nor do I see a real point for the existence of that genre of gameplay), other than attempting to exploit the "sex sells" angle

Because romance is an element of storytelling. It's an element of life in general. It's in movies, books, comics, tv shows, and games. If we're playing a game where we're assuming the role of a character -- our character -- and living his/her life, romance between some of the characters in our group of companions is needed. 

I'd find it unrealistic for the option to not be present and having us just relegated to playing celibate heroes who go on a journey from anywhere ranging from one year to seven in-game.

That's not to say it should be the primary focus. Rather, it should be a secondary concern, once the story is more or less done. And that's not to say I think Bioware is making it the primary focus.  

But romance should be in roleplaying games, IMO. Provided there's some depth to it and it isn't just sex for the sake of it.

When done right, romance can add to a story. Especially if the romance is on some level linked to the story. In addition, romance can show you some things about characters you might not see otherwise -- as is true for our world.

Unless there's a damn good reason for why the character we're playing as is just having sex for the sake of it. Like Kratos. He had various sexual escapades as a means to temporarily forget the horrors he unknowingly committed against his own family.

I found that to be a damn good reason for it being in there storywise. 

For this to truly be trying to convey the "sex sells" image, well... there would have to be a minigame with various women where you see your character boning some woman (or man). Literally, you can actually make them go in and out and moan various things.

Well said.  It's what puts BW games a step above other for me.  I enjoy FA and Skyrim, but they don't have the connection and character depth BW has and part of this is the romances making the characters multidimensional.  And I have no interest in games like witcher.

[dorianpervus]

I liked how ME3 did it actually. I think people would stop complaining about awkward love scenes if Bioware had better animation put into it and wouldn't make the characters dry hump each other.

[Battlebloodmage]

If there are some spared resources, I hope that there are different conversations and actions leading up to the love scenes between male and female Inquisitor. I kinda like how Kaidan has a somewhat different scenes. If it's not possible then maybe having them say somewhat different lines.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Use the sex scenes to tell us something about the LI a great opportunity that wasn't used in DAII (which could be said a lot about the game in general but I digress) for is: Isabela.

Now this would require 2 sex scenes, the first one is a hot and passionate but when Hawke tries to roll Isabela on her back she refuses to let Hawke be on top of her (regardless of Hawke's gender) when it comes to sex Isabela must be in control. In the dialogue following the first sex scene she explains that her husband always had to be on top during sex (and you could add that is how Zevron killed him) and she feels it's position of weakness and she has met no one who she trusts that wouldn't hurt her in that position. 

In Act 3 after you kill Castillon (or whatever his name was) and she tells Hawke that she is love with her/him and Hawke says the same you cut to another scene where Isabela lays down on her back as a sign of  love and trust that she knows that Hawke won't hurt her this scene wouldn't have to be very long or even all that graphic. Just enough to show that Isabela loves and trusts Hawke. 

This could have been developed for Merrill, Fenris, and Anders as well.   

 

[Orian Tabris]

Atakuma wrote...

Barry White.

I second this!

[Inquisitor Recon]

You walk into a dark room, the door slam shuts behind you. Your eyes adjust to the light and depending on your choices in the game, either a broodmother, desire demon, or Flemeth is in front of you on a bed. Fade to black.

This romance cannot be avoided either. It is the only romance DA3 should have.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

ReconTeam wrote...

You walk into a dark room, the door slam shuts behind you. Your eyes adjust to the light and depending on your choices in the game, either a broodmother desire demon or a Harvester is in front of you on a bed. Fade to black.

This romance cannot be avoided either. It is the only romance DA3 should have.

Subtly improved.

[cowoline]

GlaberN7 wrote...

Something like Kaidan's ME3 scene (FemShep), please?

This; Oh yes please:lol:

[Emerald Rift]

I don't mind the fade to black but I would love to have a longer pre-scene and post-scene with plenty of conversation.

[Terrorize69]

My suggestion would be to add an option under "Gameplay options" for nudity/PG-13 or how ever you want to refer to it, to be able to turn it off or on.

For example, clothed love scenes if its turned on, nudity if turned off.

[Mark of the Dragon]

StElmo wrote...

 - Don't use wierd lip physics with the kissing animations like ME3 did, it makes the game too much uncanny valley
 - Have tasteful nudity - like Mass Effect 1 did.
 - Underwear looks soooooooo awkward when it's forced on love scenes :S
 - Animate bed sheets! Then you can hide the nudity without having silly underwear to cover it all up!
 - Obviously, don't do anything voyeuristic, it's tacky and looks dumb we are all adults here, we don't need to be pandered to with that kind of thing.
 - Absolutely focus on the romance, maybe add little character movements that are specific to them. Say a character loves flowers, then in the scene, they put a flower in their lovers hair or something like that - make it feel emotional.
 - if you can't evoke emotional reactions in these scenes, don't have them. Cut them. Kiss and fade to black instead.

Agreed ME1 romance scenes and Liara's scene in ME3 are the best I have seen. They are tasteful, touching, and they use nudity wisely. I am hoping to see more of that.

[Vitlen]

Some BDSM would be great!

[13Dannyboy13]

TristanHawke wrote...

Don't be afraid to show a little nudity! It's 2012 for god sake! I mean... what people make love through their underwear?

Yeah, I'm definitely with you there, I mean the game is rated M, same warnings as an R rated movie, some of which have huge amounts of nudity. If you have to be 18+ to buy the game, they shouldn't be afraid of making some more adult scenes. I will never understand how excessive violence, gore, decapitation and language are so common, yet when someone wants to show a naked body in a game meant for adults suddenly there's a problem. Don't see the big deal when anyone that can watch some hardcore porn with a few keystrokes, some tasteful nudity in an M rated game should be no big deal for anyone. They should take some cues from a lot of the HBO shows like Game of Thrones etc. 

[Chaos Lord Malek]

We need to have a normal sex, without any stupid camera angles or underwear. That shower scene in ME3 was absolute fiasco, even worse then the original endings.

[Talvaris]

All I would ask is for no more underwear make out scenes just doesn't fit. I wouldn't mind seein them under a sheet after a fade to black or even showing them getting into bed and maybe the camera turning away from the bed. Just remember that those of us who play it do know about this stuff and should be able to get a love scene that at least looks like it might happen but just no more underwear make out scenes please. Also I agree with Dannyboy and his post. If parents are to dumb to mointor the games their kids are playing that is their fault. Game Companys are not suppose to be the police for what your kids see. That is the parents job and no one elses.

Modifié par Talvaris, 13 novembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[Savber100]

wiggles89 wrote...

Whips and chains

Well we ARE the head of the Inquistion... 

[anillee]

I thought I was alone with the whole "don't need to see it all" thing.

My favorite BioWare romance scene was a fade to black. I think as long as they do it right (see femShep and Garrus' scene in ME 2--my personal favorite), it's perfect. As I said elsewhere, I don't need to see my protagonist and their LI consummate their relationship. I can put the pieces together myself.

[Trolldrool]

The love scenes in Dragon Age Origins were always awkward to me and the underwear was the least of the problems. Mainly, it didn't look like they were even trying to have sex. It looked like a game of Twister gone horribly wrong.

In comparison to that, the love scenes in DA2 were much better, but there I just couldn't get interested enough in the characters to pursue them romantically for more than the Pokémon mentality of Gotta catch 'em all.

[BouncyFrag]

multiplayer mode, i don't know how, but this needs to happen