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[Scutshakes]

All classes are good and deifnitely gold viable, but there are tiers of course.

The lowest tiered classes I can think of are the Drell Vanguard and Batarian Sentinel.

Upcoming classes that I'm skeptical about are the Volus Sentinel/Vanguard. Adept and Engineer are good, but the Sentinel just looks like a fun class to use on Bronze/Silver with Combat Drone and Decoy, as for the Vanguard I have no idea why they'd put Biotic Charge on a Volus.

Besides that, all the classes are pretty solid.

[UEG Donkey]

Deathjam wrote...

Arppis wrote...

No.

There are no kits not worth using. Every one of them is good.

Batarian Sentinel is hated by many, but they buffed him, so it might be worth it now.

Wait, what?

Yeah they cut the firing time for Submission Net, oh you meant that he's hated.  Well yeah on teir listings everyone puts him on the bottom tier

[DeathScepter]

rlro wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

The Ceberus Phoenix kits are rather difficult to use.

I don't like the Vanguard, but the Adept is fun to play and really powerful when equipped with the Acolyte.

Cerberus Adept and Vanguards are just powerful regardless of weapons. I do favor the Talon myself.

[adi21]

I never use the standard human kits anymore.

Modifié par adi21, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:10 .

[etm125]

It is personal preference but there is still a semi-tier of classes.
Personally, I cant stand either phoenix class, the BatSent and feel gimpy with the FQE. I also barely see the original human kits anymore.

Also, just saying it now, the vorcha hunter will be the worst class of all time.

[ReduktorGowna]

doozerdude wrote...

*New kits, no new classes.

A ton of people will say volus... Since nobody seems to know how to play him.

Yup. Volus is perfect frontline commando. You run between enemies, put them down with a hurricane, and stay immortal thanhs to the shield boost. 

Also Voldept can put down phantoms on gold in few seconds with stasis + orb, 1-2 seconds of shooting with hurricane.

[bydoritos]

Mozts wrote...

Female Quarian Engineer. If you like Turrets, use the Geth's. If you like Cryo and Fire explosions, go with Paladin.

What else can she offer? No, the bumbums don't count.

Edited:

I suppose she can be a long range debuffer with Cryo blast, but the debuff itself is worst than snap freeze and enemies can dodge it.

So yeah, long range debuffer which is a very, very small part for her to play.

 but

How can you ignore that? hahaa 

[Deerber]

Scutshakes wrote...

All classes are good and deifnitely gold viable, but there are tiers of course.

The lowest tiered classes I can think of are the Drell Vanguard and Batarian Sentinel.

Upcoming classes that I'm skeptical about are the Volus Sentinel/Vanguard. Adept and Engineer are good, but the Sentinel just looks like a fun class to use on Bronze/Silver with Combat Drone and Decoy, as for the Vanguard I have no idea why they'd put Biotic Charge on a Volus.

Besides that, all the classes are pretty solid.

I dare you to outscore me on my host while I play Drellguard 

Mozts wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Mozts wrote...

Female Quarian Engineer. If you like Turrets, use the Geth's. If you like Cryo and Fire explosions, go with Paladin. 

What else can she offer? No, the bumbums don't count.

What if you want both in the same kit? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Find a male Quarian engineer and a good plastic surgeon[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]

I lol'd hard 

[palmof40sorrows]

Arppis wrote...

No.

There are no kits not worth using. Every one of them is good.

Batarian Sentinel is hated by many, but they buffed him, so it might be worth it now.

True dat. I had to use him for the Resurgance banner, along with the Kishock, and after gritting my teeth for the first 40 or so waves with them, I came to like using both the character and the weapon (I'm generally not a sniper rifle user).

[Zero132132]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

The Ceberus Phoenix kits are rather difficult to use.

Eh... I'm 150 waves into the Phoenix Vanguard challenge in 'Outsider,' and I think the biggest trick to him is dodging out of some of the lengthier animations. Smash specifically, you can dodge out of the animation fairly quickly. Dodge out of it as soon as the cooldown is triggered and you cut the animation time in half. Meanwhile, you're able to go into cover or return fire to stuff that's shooting at you. And yeah, it's cheap, but using it through thin cover is a workable strategy too. I don't mean spamming the power constantly through a single wall or some **** like that, but when you're using soft cover and enemies get close, you can smash without taking any fire at all.

It can't be too hard; I'm able to use him on Gold, and I'm pretty average.

Jamofend wrote...

Drell vanguard unless you are dedicated to use him.

The Drell Vanguard is the funnest class to use. For me, it's like a constant adrenaline rush of blind panic, trying to outpace death constantly. Such a damned rush. I can't carry with the Drellguard, but after the buffs to biotic charge, pull, cluster grenades, and their racial passive, the Drell Vanguard is absolutely worth playing. I use the wrong build, and I still can do well. I can't drag a team fo three corpses, kicking and screaming, through 10 waves and to the LZ, but I can kill efficiently and score well. Also, badass cartwheels.

[UEG Donkey]

Mozts wrote...

Female Quarian Engineer. If you like Turrets, use the Geth's. If you like Cryo and Fire explosions, go with Paladin.

What else can she offer? No, the bumbums don't count.

Edited:

I suppose she can be a long range debuffer with Cryo blast, but the debuff itself is worst than snap freeze and enemies can dodge it.

So yeah, long range debuffer which is a very, very small part for her to play.

I snipe with mine, I use the turret to protect my flank and additional DPS. 
Cryoblast, Valient 3 Shot, Reload cancel Incinerate with the lvl 6 cryo eveolution take.  Now that its fixed, incinerate is pretty good. 

Cryoblast > Snap Freeze not only as a debuffer but as a long range debuffer. 

[Deathjam]

UEG Donkey wrote...

Deathjam wrote...

Arppis wrote...

No.

There are no kits not worth using. Every one of them is good.

Batarian Sentinel is hated by many, but they buffed him, so it might be worth it now.

Wait, what?

Yeah they cut the firing time for Submission Net, oh you meant that he's hated.  Well yeah on teir listings everyone puts him on the bottom tier

I don't even get this. He has high shields, high speed, good passives for weapons, blade armour to reduce stun from melee attacks (damage return too but seems its bugged on higher levels) and the submission net which wrecks factions such as collectors. If you pair him with a good gun like the Crusader (yeah the crusader) he's borderline 'OP'.
If I want a easy time in gold I pick him.

[Jamofend]

Ultimas Dragon wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

Drell vanguard unless you are dedicated to use him.

Drellguard is amazing. he's just got a bit of a learning curv for most people. Hell untill I had to use him for the outsider challenge I didn't like either drell much at all.

To OP. Basicly I've seen every kit used extreamly well over the course of playing MP, even chart toping volus on gold despite everyone else doing well.

Thats what i'm saying unless your good with him he knda sucks.

[JLoco11]

I don't use classes that offer no challenge points, or very little towards challenge points.

[Zero132132]

Deathjam wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

Deathjam wrote...

Arppis wrote...

No.

There are no kits not worth using. Every one of them is good.

Batarian Sentinel is hated by many, but they buffed him, so it might be worth it now.

Wait, what?

Yeah they cut the firing time for Submission Net, oh you meant that he's hated.  Well yeah on teir listings everyone puts him on the bottom tier

I don't even get this. He has high shields, high speed, good passives for weapons, blade armour to reduce stun from melee attacks (damage return too but seems its bugged on higher levels) and the submission net which wrecks factions such as collectors. If you pair him with a good gun like the Crusader (yeah the crusader) he's borderline 'OP'.
If I want a easy time in gold I pick him.

Huh. It's strange reading this, because I too have taken him with the Crusader, but for me, it was purely out of rage both ways. I decided that the best way to make my Crusader X useful was to attach an omni-blade and use it like a homerun bat with the Batarian Sentinel while I worked through his 200 waves and 'Submission Net.' I don't actually think he's actively bad, but when I ask myself what's probably the worst class, he's sort of what comes to mind...

[SinerAthin]

Every class can be played.

But every class is not as strong.

There are some definitive OP classes and clear UP classes, and they sometimes change across the patches depending on nerfs/buffs.

You will handicap yourself by picking certain classes instead of another, but Bioware hasn't really created such an amazing groundwork for a balanced game in the first place, making balance a hard thing to achieve.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:26 .

[BjornDaDwarf]

Shezo wrote...

MetaSnake wrote...

Volus are support characters, anyone who tells you otherwise is a fool and should be eaten

fix'd

Volus Adept plus Claymore, kills lots of things and keeps your team alive.  With the recharge bonuses of the orbs and power recharge equipment/Gear, you can still fire off Shield Boost every 6ish seconds.  Anyone who says that Volus are support only is a fool and should be eaten, by a Volus, who is hungry and needs a snack after all that murder.

On general topic, all classes can excel at Gold, you just need to practice with them.  As was said earlier, some definitely have an easier learning curve than others, but all are rewarding.

[UEG Donkey]

Deathjam wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

Deathjam wrote...

Arppis wrote...

No.

There are no kits not worth using. Every one of them is good.

Batarian Sentinel is hated by many, but they buffed him, so it might be worth it now.

Wait, what?

Yeah they cut the firing time for Submission Net, oh you meant that he's hated.  Well yeah on teir listings everyone puts him on the bottom tier

I don't even get this. He has high shields, high speed, good passives for weapons, blade armour to reduce stun from melee attacks (damage return too but seems its bugged on higher levels) and the submission net which wrecks factions such as collectors. If you pair him with a good gun like the Crusader (yeah the crusader) he's borderline 'OP'.
If I want a easy time in gold I pick him.

I mean I like him, he's versatile can run around and tech burst like a mad man, and most importantly to me can be used effectively at very low levels.  I use him with a Talon and and net, headshot, shock wave stuff.

People don't like him because batarian dodge mechanics

[markshaxted]

It just comes down to you and what you like and can do well with. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. I like to deal damage mostly and having a power that adds to your survivability is what gets me to take that character to the higher levels... At the moment anyway. So try them all, see what fits in with how you play and which ones you enjoy. If you have friends to play with then keep in mind your character can benefit the team in many different ways so you could have fun with a class you wouldn't normally in the right team.

And... Just to add a difference of opinion, the Volus is not JUST support. His powers provide defuffs that allow him to deal additional damage as well as the whole team. His powers benefit the whole team. His shield boost can keep him in the fight when he gets stranded as well as help the team in tough objectives and lets not forget the ability to get kill streak after kill streak with that Recon Mine along with its debuffs AND he can cloak while shooting with no effect on his cool down. If you think he is just for support you are doing it wrong.

[Dimlor]

Mozts wrote...

Female Quarian Engineer. If you like Turrets, use the Geth's. If you like Cryo and Fire explosions, go with Paladin.

What else can she offer? No, the bumbums don't count.

Edited:

I suppose she can be a long range debuffer with Cryo blast, but the debuff itself is worst than snap freeze and enemies can dodge it.

So yeah, long range debuffer which is a very, very small part for her to play.

The debuff of cryo blast is actually better than that of snap freeze, but yeah snap freeze is a better power overall.

[Arppis]

adi21 wrote...

I never use the standard human kits anymore.

Personal peference for sure, but Human Soldier is the best soldier out there. Nothing beats his mobility, paired with crowdcontrol abilities and ability to boost his weapon powers and recharge shields AT will.

Human Vanguard is still awesome class, you just need to learn the class back to back to make it effective. I love it.

But yeah, human Sentinel is a class I never really could play well, but doesn't mean it's a crap class. Same with the Infiltrator and Engineer. I really don't believe these classes are useless.

[BjornDaDwarf]

I'm going to sound like some sort of ME3 Elitist Hipster Douche™ for this, but the primary classes that a bunch of people have listed as being the "worst" are some of my favorites.

Drell Vanguard - Just try him on a few bronzes/silvers to get the hang of him.  It's hard to convey what makes him awesome and fun without experiencing the cocaine fueled, hyper-active, heart pounding roller coaster that is the Drellguard.  Play as aggressive as you possibly can with him, no cover, no waiting, take the fight to the enemy. 

Phoenix Guard and Adept - Lash is awesome, just have to be careful you don't throw a living enemy into a group of your friends (unless you want to).  New Singularity is one of the best Biotic abilities in the game now. Smash has a lot of utility.  The Vanguard plays a little differently than a lot of other Guards, which is what throws people I think. 

BatSent - Hate Surfing is the best thing in the game.  Shockwave is an incredibly useful CC tool (staggers entire groups of anything).  SubNet, while a little wonky, pins down most of the annoying enemies and gives a nice AoE DoT.

Modifié par BjornDaDwarf, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:47 .

[Untonic]

It really just depends on the player, with "crap" guns, some players can make them beat the higher rated ones... same as for characters.

[Deerber]

Zero132132 wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

Drell vanguard unless you are dedicated to use him.

The Drell Vanguard is the funnest class to use. For me, it's like a constant adrenaline rush of blind panic, trying to outpace death constantly. Such a damned rush. I can't carry with the Drellguard, but after the buffs to biotic charge, pull, cluster grenades, and their racial passive, the Drell Vanguard is absolutely worth playing. I use the wrong build, and I still can do well. I can't drag a team fo three corpses, kicking and screaming, through 10 waves and to the LZ, but I can kill efficiently and score well. Also, badass cartwheels.

Damn, I couldn't have described it better. And boy, the satisfaction it can give you! :happy:

[tatski]

Dimlor wrote...

Mozts wrote...

Female Quarian Engineer. If you like Turrets, use the Geth's. If you like Cryo and Fire explosions, go with Paladin. 

What else can she offer? No, the bumbums don't count.

Edited:

I suppose she can be a long range debuffer with Cryo blast, but the debuff itself is worst than snap freeze and enemies can dodge it.

So yeah, long range debuffer which is a very, very small part for her to play.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

The debuff of cryo blast is actually better than that of snap freeze, but yeah snap freeze is a better power overall.

I think the reason why a lot of people thinks that the Paladin makes the FQE obsolete is because of Snap Freeze and CE... I think Snap Freeze is bugged because CE should only happen only if the enemy is completely frozen.. IMO, FQE is simply a different beast her gameplay is leaned towards debuffing and distraction while Pally is a Tech Explosion animal..

Modifié par tatski, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:55 .