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[Applepie_Svk]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

ME4: Pimp My Mass

Heh LOL pretty much this...

I would like to believe that they are going to fix it in some way, but also I saw what they did with DAII and ME3 ...

COD crowd > RPG crowd

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:13 .

[Applepie_Svk]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

ME4: Pimp My Mass

Heh LOL pretty much this...

I would like to believe that they are going to fix it in some way, but also I saw what they did with DAII and ME3 ...

COD crowd > RPG crowd

YO DAWG YOU WANNA BOOST AND GET SOME FEEDZ CUZ?

I would like to see that my once favourite developer stop with appealing to COD crowd and start focusing on RPG crowd which was supporting them since start...

[Humakt83]

Restrider wrote...

Well, the players complained about having not enough choices or that they did not matter. The logical conclusion would NOT be to scrap that part...

There are ZERO choices in Call of Duty series, yet they outsold practically every other game.....

[shepskisaac]

But they didn't mention combat either. So going with your logic, it means that the next Mass Effect can't be a squad-based shooter because it won't have combat at all derp

[Kel Riever]

Don't be critical. If BioWare can't find someone to decently write an rpg, I think it is a good idea they don't try again. It is all 'speculation' as to what they will do next until they do, though.

Maybe they should give up on stories if they can't write a good one. Turn ME into something else, like you know, Call of Duty. Of course, the appeal of current ME 3 MP isn't even CoD. They'd have to get rid of all that, you know, actually interesting stuff in levelling and just make it a shooter. Pew pew pew. But if they do a good job, maybe they can compete? I would think nobody would be playing Halo 3 anymore but there they are, people still playing it, even though 4 is out and Reach is imo far better.

I'd stay away from RTS though, unless they only make a version for desktops, though. Console RTS sucks. Also, with the current endeavor into mmos, maybe they should just step back from that too.

Dance Dance Revolution? Do you think BioWare was hinting at that as the next direction based on the Shepard dialogue? Who knows? SPEKULAET!

[Maxster_]

OP stating the obvious.

[stysiaq]

There's always Project Eternity upcoming, and I think it's a safe bet for players like me.

I really hope that some of ME1 spirit will prevail.

[xsdob]

A game mechanic is not and should never be the soul of a series, if that's the case, it was doomed to failure from the very start, since no game mechanic can last forever without changing, and to change ones very soul is to change the very nature of the game itself.

If you want a game that's system never changes at all, go play dynasty warriors and see how never changing anything of the game has worked out well for that franchise. You can't halt change, it is an unstoppable force. The best you can do is adept and try new things, as to not become a relic and a person lost in the past.

Modifié par xsdob, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:34 .

[Dr_Extrem]

Robhuzz wrote...

Vlk3 wrote...

BioWare was great at making RPG, the trouble started when they began heading more into action - RPG. They should go back to their roots... But I'm afraid they want to attract FPS players instead. Too bad, because there are only a few of good RPGs and it seems we can't count on BioWare anymore. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.

I'm afraid you're right. ME3 was an RPG only in name already. Now they want to 'explore a new direction' which I'm afraid means they'll turn it into a generic tps with tacked on rpg elements... pretty much like ME3 but even worse.

I just wish they hadn't messed up ME3 like that, if they want to turn the franchise into another shooter (as if we don't have enough of those already) then that's their business but they could've finished the trilogy properly and THEN mess it up.

ETA: Not to say that a shooter can't be good. I loved Half Life 2 because it had an awesome story. Sadly, BioWare storytelling is not what it used to be either. If they can't even wrap up the trilogy story without resorting to a deus ex machina (and a ridiculous one at that), I have very low hopes for a completely new game.

yes sir ...

new trilogy, clean slate - no problem. but me3 should have ended the way, all the former bioware games ended - with all possible outcomes ranging from bleak sacrifice to well earned victory.

[DunadanTurambar]

Bioware is an RPG videogames developer company, or at least it used to be. I don't understand why it would be ok if they make ME4 a FPS. It's just... no! Please, stop saying that. If I wanted to play a game where I could just shoot at everything and advance whitout even paying atention to the story I'd be playing Halo.

On the other hand that statement about bioware Montreal is just ominous. I think a lot of us are specting the worse, if that is the case I will stop bying Bioware stuff. I'm giving them their last chance.

[crimzontearz]

people have been calling this since EA took over but hey....at the time they were brushed off as worrying crybabies

[K2LU533]

As long as it is not a ****ty COD clone, and doesn't stray too far from the previous games, I will be happy.

[Ranger Jack Walker]

ME4 will be a dating simulator. This is fact.

[DrGunjah]

Well if it's going to be a FPS they better improve their skills in creating FPS'.
Take away the RPG elements from ME3 and all that remains is a lame shooter that nobody would care for.
I really hope they find back to the RPG route.

[Cainne Chapel]

FYI Bioware also did ACTION games in the very beginning.

So you cant just outright say they built themselves on RPGs... MDK was NOT an RPG.

Also. if you look at it, their games ALWAYS have been different from the previous in some form or fashion.

Hell one could say Jade Empire was a lite rpg as well as ME1. If you're going to harp on ME3 for being the lesser of the RPGs inb iowares portfolio, you would have to lump ME1 AND ME2 in there because they had just as many "RPG" failings.

Problem is , more than any other genre in gaming, the tentpoles of "RPGS" have invadeded almost every other genre that gets made today to the point where almost ALL games have "RPG" like qualitieis to them. So lets please not get into the RPG/FPS argument again... it never ends well and no one ever "Wins" that argument.

[futurepixels]

xsdob wrote...

A game mechanic is not and should never be the soul of a series, if that's the case, it was doomed to failure from the very start, since no game mechanic can last forever without changing, and to change ones very soul is to change the very nature of the game itself.

If you want a game that's system never changes at all, go play dynasty warriors and see how never changing anything of the game has worked out well for that franchise. You can't halt change, it is an unstoppable force. The best you can do is adept and try new things, as to not become a relic and a person lost in the past.

I agree that core gameplay mechanics shouldn't be static across a franchise, but they should evolve, not be scrapped for something easier that takes less development time.

Bioware should evolve the mechanics that made Mass Effect a great RPG, not cash-in on the franchise with a different style game.

Modifié par futurepixels, 12 novembre 2012 - 06:54 .

[heyakate]

futurepixels wrote...

I agree that core gameplay mechanics shouldn't be static across a franchise, but they should evolve, not be scrapped for something easier that takes less development time.

Bioware should evolve the mechanics that made Mass Effect a great RPG, not cash-in on the franchise with a different style game.

Basically this.

The majority of people play ME for the story. That's set in stone, I don't know why BW would want to change that. It's a successful trilogy.

If they want to make a FPS, great, but don't change ME into one. 

[Yesmar]

No offense but Exploration in Mass effect 3 was crap.
Aliens in Burka's are diverse? We have less variety of enemies.
The last....... so everything that they didn't do in Mass effect 3 is what they're going to do in Mass effect 4.

Great.

[Dr_Extrem]

heyakate wrote...

futurepixels wrote...

I agree that core gameplay mechanics shouldn't be static across a franchise, but they should evolve, not be scrapped for something easier that takes less development time.

Bioware should evolve the mechanics that made Mass Effect a great RPG, not cash-in on the franchise with a different style game.

Basically this.

The majority of people play ME for the story. That's set in stone, I don't know why BW would want to change that. It's a successful trilogy.

If they want to make a FPS, great, but don't change ME into one. 

aye .. if i would want to play a fps, i would go somewhere else. mass effect was about the synergy ... it worked very good in me2 and then worse in me3.

if they keep that direction, they will only have a lame shooter.

[LucasShark]

I will continue to say it: I call ME4 to be an FPS game.

That is where the money seems to be going in the gaming industry now, and where money goes, EA follows like a rabid starving wolf on a piece of bacon.

[Kel Riever]

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

ME4 will be a dating simulator. This is fact.

Awesome.

Though I would totally combine dating and FPS.  You can go on romantic massacres together!

[DirtySHISN0]

Dem speculations.


On a side note, I play Mass Effect for the exact same reasons I don't play Call of duty.

[Dr_Extrem]

Kel Riever wrote...

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

ME4 will be a dating simulator. This is fact.

Awesome.

Though I would totally combine dating and FPS.  You can go on romantic massacres together!

yeah .. for each and every headshot, i get a smacker form my li.