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[Sanunes]

Malanek999 wrote...

Where was this said? Can you give us a link to the full quote rather than just choosing a single excerpt from it.

This is the blog entry where I think the OP got their information

Link.

[AnthonyUK]

Robhuzz wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Reading between the lines I thought that too.

We shall see in the end.

See its all in interpretation though because i didnt read it as that at all.

Look at biowares history the games they make (RPGs), whats in it,(dialgoue wheels etc) it'll be that way going forward, theres no way they'll risk pissing off the people that buy their games even more,  they know Me3 and Da2 already did that are they going to go ahead and radically change it, absolutely not. In a time of big budgets with studios shutting down left right and centre big companies dont take risks, EA will not take a risk like changing Mass Effect to a FPS.

gameplay wise could be anything, could be adding mini games, could be more vehicles, could be drop in/drop out mode for singleplayer, no need to jump to the farthest concusion you can and call it as fact.

Why not? ME3 was an fps with no more than tacked on rpg elements. Even the dialogue wheel was dumbed down and replaced mostly by auto dialogue. And if shooters sell better than rpgs you can bet your behind EA will tell BioWare to make ME into one.

And how many games switch genres like that and be sucessfull? EA saw first hand with syndicate what happens, look at the crapstorm that surrounded Xcoms switch to the FPS genre, that games now "on hold", the Mass Effect and Bioware fans are more vocal and passionate then any thered be uproar.

Look at FPSes such as homefront, rage, bullet storm, look at Medal of honor and the crapfest thats become, FPS does not equal Sucess. Hell EA tried it with BF3 and  even with an insane budget they still never got close to COD with sales.

EA dont want failure, EA dont want sanother SWTOR EA dont want risk, swapping genres runs the risk of alienating the already disgruntled fanbase, they arent going to risk the thick of of 4million sales and over $200million in revenue going in a new direction.

Modifié par AnthonyUK, 12 novembre 2012 - 10:05 .

[David7204]

You know, I was looking at Priestly's twitter.

A fan asked "Casey Hudson, Mac Walters, Michael Gamble in development team of new #MassEffect, right?"

Priestly replied "Casey remains Executive Producer."

Does that imply that Walters and Gamble won't be working on ME 4?

[futurepixels]

Sanunes wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Where was this said? Can you give us a link to the full quote rather than just choosing a single excerpt from it.

This is the blog entry where I think the OP got their information

Link.

Correct.  I have added it to the op.

[Eterna]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

did you all not see the fan **** storm about the ending?

do you think BW and EA want that sort of reaction again, this place will melt the rest of the internets down if it it is ever leaked/announced that the next installment of Mass Effect is a FPS, the ME3 ending, DA2 and the day one DLC problems all wrapped up together and multiplied by 10 would be small fry compared to that storm that would happen.

They seemed very surprised there was any negative reaction at all.

I want to believe they learned their lesson but I'm really doubtful tbh.

Yes. The next installment will have coitous with your LI in the epilogue combined with an Ewokk Parade, And Rainbows, don't forget rainbows. 

 Also, there can be no negaive feeling at all, everything should be perfect, I don't want to feel bad for decisions I made. 

[Nerevar-as]

David7204 wrote...

You know, I was looking at Priestly's twitter.

A fan asked "Casey Hudson, Mac Walters, Michael Gamble in development team of new #MassEffect, right?"

Priestly replied "Casey remains Executive Producer."

Does that imply that Walters and Gamble won't be working on ME 4?

Walters shouldn´t be allowed lead writing in any game, ever. Hope Gamble stays however.

[megamacka]

The next Mass Effect will be a squad-based shooter with RPG elements like leveling and upgrades... Calling it right now.

Wait.... Wasn't this exactly what ME3 was?

[Nerevar-as]

megamacka wrote...

The next Mass Effect will be a squad-based shooter with RPG elements like leveling and upgrades... Calling it right now.

Wait.... Wasn't this exactly what ME3 was?

Well... there were a few branching options with repercusions that became pointless in the original endings, so more or less yeah.

[Binary_Helix 1]

Eterna5 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

did you all not see the fan **** storm about the ending?

do you think BW and EA want that sort of reaction again, this place will melt the rest of the internets down if it it is ever leaked/announced that the next installment of Mass Effect is a FPS, the ME3 ending, DA2 and the day one DLC problems all wrapped up together and multiplied by 10 would be small fry compared to that storm that would happen.

They seemed very surprised there was any negative reaction at all.

I want to believe they learned their lesson but I'm really doubtful tbh.

Yes. The next installment will have coitous with your LI in the epilogue combined with an Ewokk Parade, And Rainbows, don't forget rainbows. 

 Also, there can be no negaive feeling at all, everything should be perfect, I don't want to feel bad for decisions I made. 

I loath fan fixation on LI content. If you had bothered to read the entire thread you would have know that.

Also Synthesis the ending you love so much is the Ewok parade and rainbow drivel you claim to oppose, hypocrite.

DA2, The Old Republic, and ME3, all flops or widely hated. Bioware can't read the pulse of the fans anymore.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 12 novembre 2012 - 10:18 .

[Eterna]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

did you all not see the fan **** storm about the ending?

do you think BW and EA want that sort of reaction again, this place will melt the rest of the internets down if it it is ever leaked/announced that the next installment of Mass Effect is a FPS, the ME3 ending, DA2 and the day one DLC problems all wrapped up together and multiplied by 10 would be small fry compared to that storm that would happen.

They seemed very surprised there was any negative reaction at all.

I want to believe they learned their lesson but I'm really doubtful tbh.

Yes. The next installment will have coitous with your LI in the epilogue combined with an Ewokk Parade, And Rainbows, don't forget rainbows. 

 Also, there can be no negaive feeling at all, everything should be perfect, I don't want to feel bad for decisions I made. 

I loath fan fixation on LI content. If you had bothered to read the entire thread you would have know that.

Also Synthesis the ending you love so much is the Ewok parade and rainbow drivel you claim to oppose, hypocrite.

DA2, The Old Republic, and ME3, all flops or widely hated. Bioware can't read the pulse of the fans anymore.

 No Bioware can't read your pulse anymore. Sucks to be you I guess. 

[AnthonyUK]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

did you all not see the fan **** storm about the ending?

do you think BW and EA want that sort of reaction again, this place will melt the rest of the internets down if it it is ever leaked/announced that the next installment of Mass Effect is a FPS, the ME3 ending, DA2 and the day one DLC problems all wrapped up together and multiplied by 10 would be small fry compared to that storm that would happen.

They seemed very surprised there was any negative reaction at all.

I want to believe they learned their lesson but I'm really doubtful tbh.

Yes. The next installment will have coitous with your LI in the epilogue combined with an Ewokk Parade, And Rainbows, don't forget rainbows. 

 Also, there can be no negaive feeling at all, everything should be perfect, I don't want to feel bad for decisions I made. 

I loath fan fixation on LI content. If you had bothered to read the entire thread you would have know that.

Also Synthesis the ending you love so much is the Ewok parade and rainbow drivel you claim to oppose, hypocrite.

DA2, The Old Republic, and ME3, all flops or widely hated. Bioware can't read the pulse of the fans anymore.

ME3 is not a flop and is not widely hated, because a verbal minority of hate does not constitute "widely" even DA 2 sold fairly well, the onyl flop was TOR.

Modifié par AnthonyUK, 12 novembre 2012 - 10:22 .

[Squallypo]

im glad i enjoyed what i could of Mass effect universe its a truly shame that the series went destroyed from ME 3. God bless shepard!

[Binary_Helix 1]

Eterna5 wrote...


 No Bioware can't read your pulse anymore. Sucks to be you I guess. 

That's why DA2 got it's DLC cancelled and stained the DA brand.

That's why The Old Republic is the biggest flop in gaming history.

That's why Bioware retconned their own story with the ME3 EC.

That's why the original Bioware founders left together after the fiascos.

Nope. It sucks to be you because Bioware will be closed down at this rate.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 12 novembre 2012 - 10:27 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

ME4: Pimp My Mass

Heh LOL pretty much this...

I would like to believe that they are going to fix it in some way, but also I saw what they did with DAII and ME3 ...

COD crowd > RPG crowd

YO DAWG YOU WANNA BOOST AND GET SOME FEEDZ CUZ?

I would like to see that my once favourite developer stop with appealing to COD crowd and start focusing on RPG crowd which was supporting them since start...

And here I almost forgot about that one, nice call back Eagle

Key word here is exploration, though. It might not be an RPG or an action game with RPG elements, might be an FPS with RPG elements for all we know, they still haen't entrely decided what direction they want to go, for going RPG style mechanics for a company that known for making RPG style games. Than again they have been trying to appeal the a broader fanbase as of late. Guess we'll see in a few months. Though I will say that XCOM Enemy Unknown was better recieved than the propsal for the XCOM FPS, which is still in the works. Something to consider for the new team I would say.

[Binary_Helix 1]

AnthonyUK wrote...



ME3 is not a flop and is not widely hated, because a verbal minority of hate does not constitute "widely" even DA 2 sold fairly well, the onyl flop was TOR.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. ME3 saw the biggest fan backlash of my lifetime. It even got mainstream media coverage.

[Nerevar-as]

AnthonyUK wrote...

ME3 is not a flop and is not widely hated, because a verbal minority of hate does not constitute "widely" even DA 2 sold fairly well, the onyl flop was TOR.

Then that vocal minority must be the same in all forums, as most reactions go along despised, indefference or mockery. I´m afraid among the gaming fandom ME3 and Starbrat have become the example of how to royally screw up.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Eterna5 wrote...
No Bioware can't read your pulse anymore. Sucks to be you I guess. 

Throw out a chunk of a stable if not overly large consumer base in favor of a wider market which might or might not end up being as stable. Hmmm, wonder if that'll work out for them in the long run. Heavy risk...

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 12 novembre 2012 - 10:33 .

[Eterna]

[quote]Binary_Helix 1 wrote...


That's why DA2 got it's DLC cancelled[/quote]

To move onto the next one.

[quote]and stained the DA brand. [/quote]

In your opinion, judging by the activity in the new DA game forums I'd say it will sell fine.


[quote]That's why The Old Republic is the biggest flop in gaming history.[/quote]

I wouldn't know, I've never played it. 

[quote]That's why Bioware retconned their own story with the ME3 EC.[/quote]

I don't see how them trying to please their fans is a sign that they're a failing company. Especially considering that the follow up DLC was their best selling DLC yet.

[quote]That's why the original Bioware founders left together after the fiascos.[/quote]

No. They left because they couldn't stand fans like you. They couldn't take the constant stream of **** and drivel that spews from your orifaces. 

[quote]Nope. It sucks to be you because Bioware will be closed down at this rate.[/quote]

Nope, their newer games are selling far more copies than their older games did. 





[/quote]

[Sanunes]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

-snip-

That's why DA2 got it's DLC cancelled and stained the DA brand.

That's why The Old Republic is the biggest flop in gaming history.

That's why Bioware retconned their own story with the ME3 EC.

That's why the original Bioware founders left together after the fiascos.

Nope. It sucks to be you because Bioware will be closed down at this rate.

Dragon Age 2 DLC got cancelled because there wasn't interest in it, not because the game was a flop.  Not ever game can sell DLC and it gets cancelled in the middle of production or never created in the first place.  Dragon Age 2 was successful enough to get two DLC made which is more then most games.

I really need to know why The Old Republic is "the biggest flop ever", I believe that title currently goes to UFC Unleased 3 because it needed to sell two million copies to break even and since it didn't UFC moved their brand to EA, possibly pushing THQ closer to bankrupcy.  LucasArts is more about money then EA and if The Old Republic was losing moneyI am pretty sure they would interfer, it might not be the biggest cash cow of all time, that title goes to World of Warcraft.

[AresKeith]

I see Eterna still acts like that

[Applepie_Svk]

Next tittle...

Call of Effect: Turian boobs

The biggest once RPG action series of all time and now new FPS, the follow-up to last release mediocre product Mass Effect 3 returns with Call of Effect: Turian boobs. Call of Effect:Turian boobs will take you behind enemy lines as a member of an alien elite special mega tripple turbo forces unit engaging in covert with lot of gunz and xplozion warfare, classified hurr durr operations, and explosive conflicts across the GALAXY. You´ll become a leader of most important unit in whole galaxy assembled from the top operatives like Elcor the John, Asari stripper, Hanar the Blasto and most fearfull one - Vorcha the Fluffy... With access to exclusive weaponry and equipment, your actions will tip the balance during the most dangerous time period galaxy has ever known.

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 12 novembre 2012 - 10:40 .

[AnthonyUK]

Nerevar-as wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

ME3 is not a flop and is not widely hated, because a verbal minority of hate does not constitute "widely" even DA 2 sold fairly well, the onyl flop was TOR.

Then that vocal minority must be the same in all forums, as most reactions go along despised, indefference or mockery. I´m afraid among the gaming fandom ME3 and Starbrat have become the example of how to royally screw up.

Look you and the poster above can believe these forums are a "majority" or a "wide view" all you like fact of the matter is Mass Effect 3 sold in the millions, yet with all the hype, all the main stream media coverage highlighting the terrible ending only 68k of millions actually bothered to come to BSN and to vote in the notorious poll here

http://social.biowar...606/polls/28989

68k out of millions is the definition of a minority.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

ME4: Pimp My Mass

Heh LOL pretty much this...

I would like to believe that they are going to fix it in some way, but also I saw what they did with DAII and ME3 ...

COD crowd > RPG crowd

YO DAWG YOU WANNA BOOST AND GET SOME FEEDZ CUZ?

I would like to see that my once favourite developer stop with appealing to COD crowd and start focusing on RPG crowd which was supporting them since start...

And here I almost forgot about that one, nice call back Eagle

Key word here is exploration, though. It might not be an RPG or an action game with RPG elements, might be an FPS with RPG elements for all we know, they still haen't entrely decided what direction they want to go, for going RPG style mechanics for a company that known for making RPG style games. Than again they have been trying to appeal the a broader fanbase as of late. Guess we'll see in a few months. Though I will say that XCOM Enemy Unknown was better recieved than the propsal for the XCOM FPS, which is still in the works. Something to consider for the new team I would say.

Ha ha I will never let you forget about that, my friend!

One of the best quotes and ME4 ideas on BSN.

[Binary_Helix 1]

[quote]Eterna5 wrote...

To move onto the next one.

[/quote]

Yeah right. DAO had multiple DLCs and an expasnion. DA2 got almost nothing because they knew it would tank.



[quote]Eterna5 wrote...

I wouldn't know, I've never played it. 

[/quote]

TOR's budget was astronomical and it was hyped to be a WoW killer. Not even a year old and it was 14 bucks at GameStop.


[quote]Eterna5 wrote...

I don't see how them trying to please their fans is a sign that they're a failing company. Especially considering that the follow up DLC was their best selling DLC yet.[/quote]

Got any sales figures to prove that?


[quote]Eterna5 wrote...
No. They left because they couldn't stand fans like you. They couldn't take the constant stream of **** and drivel that spews from your orifaces. [/quote]

More like they were escaping a sinking ship.




[quote]Eterna5 wrote...Nope, their newer games are selling far more copies than their older games did. 

[/quote]

Have you even heard of The Old Republic? Their budget surpassed most movies and they'll never recoup the cost.






[/quote]

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 12 novembre 2012 - 11:36 .

[futurepixels]

AnthonyUK wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

AnthonyUK wrote...

ME3 is not a flop and is not widely hated, because a verbal minority of hate does not constitute "widely" even DA 2 sold fairly well, the onyl flop was TOR.

Then that vocal minority must be the same in all forums, as most reactions go along despised, indefference or mockery. I´m afraid among the gaming fandom ME3 and Starbrat have become the example of how to royally screw up.

Look you and the poster above can believe these forums are a "majority" or a "wide view" all you like fact of the matter is Mass Effect 3 sold in the millions, yet with all the hype, all the main stream media coverage highlighting the terrible ending only 68k of millions actually bothered to come to BSN and to vote in the notorious poll here

http://social.biowar...606/polls/28989

68k out of millions is the definition of a minority.

68k people voting on a forum poll is actually pretty significant.