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[Stardusk]

 By that I mean everyone seems to be using it and dozens of builds for many different classes depend heavily to entirely upon its use. For example, most people hate the shield/barrier evolution of Flamer, Their reason? they have an Acolyte and use it constantly. Biotics also use it to instantly strip shields and barriers. Of course it does have a limited AOE and you cannot strip the shields off 6 enemies at once but there are so many power based builds that would be much less effective without the Acolyte, meaning they cannot stand on their own without it. And mind you, this is just my observation. Bad or good, every Tom, Dick and Harry is using it now.

[Chromatix]

Well, yeah. It's an awesome go-to weapon, since it negates almost half of health pool with bosses and very light. Can you think of something that strips Banshee's Barrier in matter of seconds and still give you 200% rs? I can't.

+ It will be nerfed. Someday.

[Relix28]

ITS AN ABOMINATION!

[Stardusk]

Chromatix wrote...

Well, yeah. It's an awesome go-to weapon, since it negates almost half of health pool with bosses and very light. Can you think of something that strips Banshee's Barrier in matter of seconds and still give you 200% rs? I can't.

+ It will be nerfed. Someday.

Pretty much. Phantoms are a total joke with the weapon.

[Arppis]

Dunno, but Reegar is kinda poop unless you are Krogan or something. I heavily dislike the movement speed reduction when firing the gun. Without that, might use it bit more.

[Strik1101]

After the firing rate change on it, i would be more surprised if people were NOT using it. Its a great weapon that does exactly what its supposed to.

[Stardusk]

Relix28 wrote...

ITS AN ABOMINATION!

Indeed.

[Chromatix]

Stardusk wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

Well, yeah. It's an awesome go-to weapon, since it negates almost half of health pool with bosses and very light. Can you think of something that strips Banshee's Barrier in matter of seconds and still give you 200% rs? I can't.

+ It will be nerfed. Someday.

Pretty much. Phantoms are a total joke with the weapon.

Excuse me, what? 

And yes, it completely negates Phantoms, and because of that each pug think it's his duty to carry one. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:12 .

[IndigoVitare]

Pretty much.

If you only use 1 weapon, you might as well equip it with ULM, even if it's only to down boss shields.

I think it was removing the charge that did this. Before it was a lot more isolated to biotics that struggled with shields.

[xBUMMx]

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

[Chromatix]

xBUMMx wrote...

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

This guy never does something wrong, lol. 

But some builds indeed would be quite weaker nowadays without it, especially the ones that have nothing to do against shields quickly. Like, say, Fury or Strictly Flamer-based Vorcha. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:16 .

[BongMong]

Stardusk wrote...

...there are so many power based builds that would be much less effective without the Acolyte, meaning they cannot stand on their own without it.

That as may be, but how many non-power based builds would be much less effective if their weapon was removed? Meaning they can't stand on their own without it? In case you can't work it out, that would be all of them save a few very melee heavy characters (ie. Krogan) who might possibly get by without either powers or weapons.

The fact that a character needs a suitable weapon to fight a war is not really that odd.

The build I am thinking of trying an Acolyte on is my Vorcha Soldier. I can assure you that it is perfectly viable with my Wraith however. I might just get by with no weapon, but as with almost any character, having no suitable weapon would make things much harder, I agree.

I'm not sure why this surprises the OP or anyone else for that matter.

Modifié par BongMong, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:18 .

[N7 Whiskey]

I don't think there are any kits or builds that aren't viable regardless of weapon selection. I've used some pretty off-the-wall builds using a variety of weapons and have yet to find one that I can't make work on Gold.

Yes, the Acolyte is seeing some heavy use and the reason is simple. ItJs extremely lightweight and versatile. Still, I see a lot of two weapon loadouts that don't include the Acolyte so it isn't like it is the only weapon being used. It also isn't an "I win" button so I see no reason to nef/change it except possibly making it heavier.

[Stardusk]

xBUMMx wrote...

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

You obviously did not read correctly. None of my builds requires the Acolyte. In fact, I never use the weapon.

[stysiaq]

It is a win gun, but it's only partially due to the charge mechanic removal.

The changes to Fire Explosions had a lot more impact imho.

[Mozts]

At least acolyte is not bugged...

[andrew688k]

hope it doesn't get nerfed, its biotic's saving grace.

[Relix28]

Stardusk wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

Well, yeah. It's an awesome go-to weapon, since it negates almost half of health pool with bosses and very light. Can you think of something that strips Banshee's Barrier in matter of seconds and still give you 200% rs? I can't.

+ It will be nerfed. Someday.

Pretty much. Phantoms are a total joke with the weapon.

They are a joke with any projectile weapon and shield/barrier stripping powers such as overload, arc grenades, lift grenades, etc...
Just like big armored targets are a joke with Inferno Grenades, Warp + Incendiary and Flamer speced for armor damage.

Your point?

[xBUMMx]

Chromatix wrote...

xBUMMx wrote...

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

This guy never does something wrong, lol. 

But some builds indeed would be quite weaker nowadays without it, especially the ones that have nothing to do against shields quickly. Like, say, Fury or Strictly Flamer-based Vorcha. 

There are other weapons......

.....ULM Hurricane comes to mind, but the acolyte was a great help for biotics indeed. It shoots little exploding ball of overload for christ's sake.

[Zardoc]

Chromatix wrote...

xBUMMx wrote...

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

This guy never does something wrong, lol. 

But some builds indeed would be quite weaker nowadays without it, especially the ones that have nothing to do against shields quickly. Like, say, Fury or Strictly Flamer-based Vorcha. 

I never used the Acolyte on my Flamer vorcha, and he still rocks.

[xBUMMx]

Stardusk wrote...

xBUMMx wrote...

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

You obviously did not read correctly. None of my builds requires the Acolyte. In fact, I never use the weapon.

The way it is worded it looks like it says that it is the only gun they could use and be useful, which Is false.

But technically nothing can stand without one gun atleast, although my adepts wouldn't care if they had a gun or not.

[Necrotron]

Man, I really hope it doesn't get nerfed. It was my favorite gun before they had to remove the charge mechanic. I'd much, much, much, much rather see them be able to re-add the charge mechanic to balance the gun.

If it gets nerfed, that will be a sad, sad day.

[Chromatix]

Zardoc wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

xBUMMx wrote...

Cannot stand without it? I did just fine before the acolyte with complete power focus, so maybe you're doing it wrong?

This guy never does something wrong, lol. 

But some builds indeed would be quite weaker nowadays without it, especially the ones that have nothing to do against shields quickly. Like, say, Fury or Strictly Flamer-based Vorcha. 

I never used the Acolyte on my Flamer vorcha, and he still rocks.

What's the time of stripping Banshee's barriers with Flamer? And no teammates included.

And with Acolyte? It's kinda obvious. 

[OuterRim]

Another Acolyte thread already? Tomorrow you will get your wish. I predict it will get nerfed... again.