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[megawug]

So this thread's really about GI and Destroyer players whining that Adepts are overpowered, isn't it?
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Modifié par megawug, 13 novembre 2012 - 07:02 .

[dumdum2]

Charaxan wrote...

1 : acolyte is not reliable as a stand-alone weapon. Before nerfing, you could (and still can) solo only with reegar carbine and nothing else. Can't with acolyte.

You can solo with the acolyte as your only weapon, what are you talking about? I prefer it as my only weapon on 3 classes, namely the Human Sentinel, Vorcha Flamer and Geth Flamer. But it can be used as the only weapon on a lot of classes.

Tell me if this 26 min Platinum Duo with the Acolyte on the GI is effective enough: youtu.be/M_SqTkrSYao

[dumdum2]

With 4 GI using only the acolyte, proxy mines and incendiary rounds you will clear Platinum on every map and against any enemy in 18-22 minutes without using any rockets. That is better than most weapons in this game.

[MaxShine]

dumdum2 wrote...

4 GI (with way above average gaming skills) using only the acolyte, proxy mines and incendiary rounds you will clear Platinum on every map and against any enemy in 18-22 minutes without using any rockets. That is better than most weapons in this game.

Tell me please what will happen if you take 4 average GIs and let them play Platinum with the setup you proposed.

[Influ]

What? A niche weapon that supports some specific builds? Quickly, kill this monstrosity! I'll have none of this varied gameplay in my video games. Do it, and we can all get back to using real men's weapons.

[dumdum2]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Tell me please what will happen if you take 4 average GIs and let them play Platinum with the setup you proposed.

That accounts for every weapon and class in the game. Below average players will probably not make it past wave 3 on Platinum regardless of setup so I don't really understand the point you are trying to make 

[MaxShine]

dumdum2 wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Tell me please what will happen if you take 4 average GIs and let them play Platinum with the setup you proposed.

That accounts for every weapon and class in the game. Below average players will probably not make it past wave 3 on Platinum regardless of setup so I don't really understand the point you are trying to make 

You wanted to say that the acolyte is viable as a stand-alone weapon, yes? The point I was trying to make that this is true only for very few players with cleary above average gaming skills. I just wanted to add this information... You know a weapon that is good in the hands of great players is nothing special. A weapon that can turn an average player into an unholy killing machine (the original Krysae could do that for example) is very likely 'unbalanced'.

[dima_che]

And he strikes again.

[chefcook90]

The Acolyte does not reduce enemies to pools of ionized goo. It is not the new Reegar.

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

<edited fopr reading fail>

Modifié par Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout, 13 novembre 2012 - 08:35 .

[Madeline Lightning]

heaven forbid we use a gun they put in the game. that means it's broke. **** all games are broke then since there's always more popular stuff to be found in everything.

[Impius]

Well, for an biotic it is not a big difference from bevore patch to now. The charge speed wasn't that slow, the actual firerate didn't become much quicker, just a tiny bit.

It became easier, for stressy situations, but not much. I used it before and was quiete comfortable with it and I use it now.

[dumdum2]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

You wanted to say that the acolyte is viable as a stand-alone weapon, yes? The point I was trying to make that this is true only for very few players with cleary above average gaming skills. I just wanted to add this information... You know a weapon that is good in the hands of great players is nothing special. A weapon that can turn an average player into an unholy killing machine (the original Krysae could do that for example) is very likely 'unbalanced'.

I can't really compare weapons if they are not both used on the same player with the same skill right? So if I use a weapon myself then I would know how one weapon would compare to other weapons that I use. If I compare myself using the Acolyte to someone who just started playing bronze with a Predator it wouldn't be a fair comparison would it?

A lot of the times when I try things out, like different builds with classes, powers, weapons, ammo etc. I basically always play Giant and Reapers. That is because I want everything else to be similar in order to compare.

[HusarX]

megawug wrote...

So this thread's really about GI and Destroyer players whining that Adepts are overpowered, isn't it?
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Nope. This thread is about a guy, who is seeking attention.

[nicethugbert]

Drummernate wrote...

Best Phantom killer ever if you want to take a gun like a Saber as a primary.

Since... ya know the Saber literally can't kill Phantoms unless they are in cover.

Scorpion, Falcon, Graal, Kishock, etc. are phantom killers too.  Anything with a stagger is a phantom killer.  Being s phantom killer is not a bad thing, espcecially when phantoms flippin cheat.

[nicethugbert]

megawug wrote...

So this thread's really about GI and Destroyer players whining that Adepts are overpowered, isn't it?
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[spudspot]

Hehe, reminds me of your thread about the Acolyte some time ago, Stardusk.

Modifié par spudspot, 13 novembre 2012 - 10:11 .

[Eelectrica]

nicethugbert wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Best Phantom killer ever if you want to take a gun like a Saber as a primary.

Since... ya know the Saber literally can't kill Phantoms unless they are in cover.

Scorpion, Falcon, Graal, Kishock, etc. are phantom killers too.  Anything with a stagger is a phantom killer.  Being s phantom killer is not a bad thing, espcecially when phantoms flippin cheat.

No anything that can kill phantoms easily should be nerfed apparently.

Next DLC - if their is one, Bioware should release weapons that heal enemies.
But they'd probably need to be buffed since they wouldn'theal the enemies enough or some such.

[Airealite]

HusarX wrote...

megawug wrote...

So this thread's really about GI and Destroyer players whining that Adepts are overpowered, isn't it?
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Nope. This thread is about a guy, who is seeking attention.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

Not really comparable to the reegar except for the high multiplier against barriers in shields.. but that's just from the title.

So, my opinion is that the acolyte is just as powerful as it was before, if not less. I will find it silly if it now gets nerfed, but I would understand because of how useful it can be.

I'm not sure what they would do to "balance" the weapon but they should probably tread lightly.

[CSRB]

Ashen Earth wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

ITS AN ABOMINATION!

Banter.

[cgj]

Air Quotes wrote...

Acolyte has no drawback now. At least previously you had to charge it and that could be tedious and screw you up. Now it's an ultimate sidearm for all classes or even a primary for some.

the charge up acolyte had more advantages than the one we currently have thx to glitchers

the old acolyte was incredibly more OP than the one with have today
it has already been nerfed

wish it could avoid another nerf

[neverhadspam]

i cant help but use the hurricane + acolyte combo on all my casters :/

[Eurhetemec]

megawug wrote...

So this thread's really about GI and Destroyer players whining that Adepts are overpowered, isn't it?
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That's basically what it comes down to.

In every game where there are both powers and weapons, there will be faction of players who get very upset if powers classes are even on-par with weapons classes.

So we get this sort of thread...

[Stardusk]

Eurhetemec wrote...

megawug wrote...

So this thread's really about GI and Destroyer players whining that Adepts are overpowered, isn't it?
<_<

That's basically what it comes down to.

In every game where there are both powers and weapons, there will be faction of players who get very upset if powers classes are even on-par with weapons classes.

So we get this sort of thread...

Lots of speculation here and most of it wrong. You must have missed the orginal post.