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[Deathshroud09]

This, so much...i have no idea why they have to be so stacked in their abilities.....phantoms can become 100% immune to powers, and 95% immune to weapons...banshee's/praetorians just troll the power users.

[Chromatix]

It's a kind of strong space magic.

+ Weapons deserve some love too.

[xBUMMx]

I know, right? They should definitely put a (longer) cooldown on the bubble. Or maybe even add anti-bullet bubbles on some enemies and troll the gun users for once. I swear they hate casters, especially biotics

[Broganisity]

I dunno. The Praetorians will only activate theirs while floating...But they stay activated for too long, IMO.

Banshees will only activate theirs if you attempt to sling non physical (Read: Charge. Smash.) powers at them after they are staggered or if they are doing a warp. The later is a good way of keeping yourself from being hit by said warp as it interrupts them.

The Phantoms are just evil.

Modifié par Broganisity, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[stysiaq]

They do. At least I can use Atlases/Scions/Primes as my BE pylons.

There should be some "weapon invulnerability" bubble of sort, to even the balance between the classes, because at the moment classes like Destroyer just dont have to GAF, and the rest has to.
Where's the justice in it.

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

Disregard powers, use acolyte/reegar.

Modifié par GeneralMoskvin_2.0, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:42 .

[Broganisity]

stysiaq wrote...

There should be some "weapon invulnerability" bubble of sort, to even the balance between the classes, because at the moment classes like Destroyer just dont have to GAF, and the rest has to.
Where's the justice in it.

Oh god...if Primes could produce such a contraption...

[N7 Whiskey]

All I know is that I want the old Air Quotes back. The new emo-constant negativity is not an improvement. What happened to the cheerful "we can make anything work" poster that used to post on BSN?

As for the Praetorians, don't use powers while they are flying and they won't use the bubble. You can get in close to make them stop flying, then back off and hit 'em with the good stuff.

[Elecbender]

The one thing that bothers me about Praetorians is that they use the bubble against ANY power. I cannot think of a single power where they would not use that bubble (maybe Charge I don't know).

The other two only react to projectile powers.

[Archie-Scott]

Deathshroud09 wrote...

This, so much...i have no idea why they have to be so stacked in their abilities.....phantoms can become 100% immune to powers, and 95% immune to weapons...banshee's/praetorians just troll the power users.

They aren't 95% immune to weapons, I still one-shot them with a swift head-shot with a sniper-rifle. I agree with the Praetorians/Banshee bits though.

[Fortack]

Chromatix wrote...

+ Weapons deserve some love too.

It's kind of annoying that debuffing powers that improve weapon damage are useless though. I don't see why abilities like Cloak, ARush, Marksman etc are unaffected whilst powers that actually require aiming are. At least those sweet seeker swarms hurt all characters, bless em

[Crimson Vanguard]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

All I know is that I want the old Air Quotes back. The new emo-constant negativity is not an improvement. What happened to the cheerful "we can make anything work" poster that used to post on BSN?

As for the Praetorians, don't use powers while they are flying and they won't use the bubble. You can get in close to make them stop flying, then back off and hit 'em with the good stuff.

You either die young as a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And Im already grew old of all the bull**** enemies threw at me

[Broganisity]

Fortack wrote...
 I don't see why abilities like Cloak, ARush, Marksman etc are unaffected whilst powers that actually require aiming are.

Because those abilities directly affect the user, not the recipient...who is affected, yes, but not directly hit with any affects other than weapon damage.

Also Tactical cloak works on them still.

[Coalmine]

Phantom and Banshee barriers block heavy melee damage.  That's mean.

[NeedsMoreCowb3ll]

Broganisity wrote...

I dunno. The Praetorians will only activate theirs while floating...But they stay activated for too long, IMO.

Banshees will only activate theirs if you attempt to sling non physical (Read: Charge. Smash.) powers at them after they are staggered or if they are doing a warp. The later is a good way of keeping yourself from being hit by said warp as it interrupts them.

The Phantoms are just evil.

I used to think Phantoms were evil too, until I started playing the Batarian Vanguard.  Charge, they get stun lock, I unload 6 Piranha shots or a Reegar clip to the head.  Works for Dragoons too.  I now seek them out...

Modifié par NeedsMoreCowb3ll, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:54 .

[Arppis]

I only like it when Phantom does it, because it means free headshots. Well, maybe a bit on Banshee too.

Modifié par Arppis, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:55 .

[BlackDahlia424]

/signed

Was playing as a Valkyrie and was facing a Banshee. I got her within my Annihilation field and used warp. She blocks it, which I half expected so I proceeded to just shoot her with my Disciple. The second her bubble comes down, I use warp again, only to be blocked again. This is complete BS. Complete immunity to an entire form of attack with absolutely no cooldown between uses. Friggin BS.

At least with the Praetorians, they do it in a predictable manner. As long as they are on the ground or using their eye lasers, they can't put up their bubble.

[TommyNg]

There is a higher requirement for using weapons as good weapons are harder to get than power, so weapon should have advantage

Modifié par TommyNg, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:56 .

[mrcanada]

The bubble makes the Phantom easier to kill IMO. The only one I don't feel should be in the game is the Praetorian's. Along with insane movement speed and lightning quick insta kill/melee options etc, the enemy is far too dangerous as it is and in my opinion is the THE most dangerous enemy in the game. Having a bubble that negates powers as it closes in on you at mach one is not exactly fair in my eyes.

[BlackDahlia424]

Archie-Scott wrote...

Deathshroud09 wrote...

This, so much...i have no idea why they have to be so stacked in their abilities.....phantoms can become 100% immune to powers, and 95% immune to weapons...banshee's/praetorians just troll the power users.

They aren't 95% immune to weapons, I still one-shot them with a swift head-shot with a sniper-rifle. I agree with the Praetorians/Banshee bits though.

They are when they're doing their ninja-dodge. Which they do every .00002 seconds while under fire.

Modifié par BlackDahlia424, 12 novembre 2012 - 07:58 .

[Arppis]

mrcanada wrote...

The bubble makes the Phantom easier to kill IMO. The only one I don't feel should be in the game is the Praetorian's. Along with insane movement speed and lightning quick insta kill/melee options etc, the enemy is far too dangerous as it is and in my opinion is the THE most dangerous enemy in the game. Having a bubble that negates powers as it closes in on you at mach one is not exactly fair in my eyes.

I think they become dangerous only when they get possessed. The rocket attack is riddicilously overpowered.

But otherwise I enjoy Preatorians, as they are easy to dodge and their attacks are dodgable... except for the rocket attack ofcourse. Heh.

But yeah, I think other enemies make them dangerous. I never liked the fact that Collectors move with sprint speed.

[Blind2Society]

Banshees and praetorians I don't mind because they're big enough to shoot and don't have stupid-high DR along with anti power bubble.

Phantoms on the other hand, need to have their DR removed.

Air Quotes wrote...

The point is that the complete invulnerability from powers come with no drawback for Banshee/Praetorian.

When they use the power block they should either:

1. Take EXTRA weapon damage

I agrre with this very much.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:04 .

[ktong747]

The bubbles also apparently block Shadow Strike, which is ridiculous. But yeah, yet another reason to play weapons classes since they don't suffer from this drawback.