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[Stahlhammer]

I find the phantoms bubble being actually useful - it will stop her from reaching you and make an easy target for a nice headshot. Banshee stops moving too, which gives you some advantage.

Praetorian.. well this bug is really bad@**. The bubble is almost always up when it's airborne, and [idk if it was lag-related or a visual glitch] few times i saw it land with the bubble on and firin' that laz0r.. At that moment my flamer did zero damage to it, and the guns seemed to be less useful than usual.

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

Feneckus wrote...

I don't mind their bubbles. What bothers me is that 90% of the playerbase has no idea how to deal with them and will trigger the bubbles by doing something stupid. Cryo Blast on a phantom ? Wow, awesome, thanks a lot ...

What's also really irritating is stuff like Turrets/Drones/Hawk Missile launcher. I hate that so much I just refuse to play grenade/melee classes vs Cerberus when there's a geth engineer/destroyer. Really annoying.

I spec my destroyer without the missile launcher, so can we be friends?

[Impius]

just to troll a bit, still meaning it serious:
l2p

[Catastrophy]

Instead of opening a new thread:
I agree, especially for the Praetorian. The swordmaidens can be dealt with.

[quebra]

After some fruitless searches, this is not as bad a necro as I could have come up with...

Even after reading all of this, I find no definitive answers anywhere. What exactly can harm a Banshee when her power block (shimmer shield) is on?

- Obviously we know REAVE and DC, but is that true of all hitscan powers (ie, overload, etc.)?
- I'd swear CHARGE has an effect even when she's blocking! Maybe it's just the force/stagger, or just the damage bonus effect (weapon, or a charge power enhanced pre block DOT)? Does CHARGE have some kinda melee component?
- Does melee even work when the banshee bubble is up?
- How does the bubble affect debufs, both applied BEFORE and during the bubble (ex. being in the mine scan range while bubbled, v.s. being hit with a proxy mine debuff a second before bubbling... what about a pre-bubble warp)?

This $%!@$* is nebulos, by now someone knows the real answers here. Thanks.

[Alijah Green]

quebra wrote...

After some fruitless searches, this is not as bad a necro as I could have come up with...

Even after reading all of this, I find no definitive answers anywhere. What exactly can harm a Banshee when her power block (shimmer shield) is on? Headshots

- Obviously we know REAVE and DC, but is that true of all hitscan powers (ie, overload, etc.)?
- I'd swear CHARGE has an effect even when she's blocking! Maybe it's just the force/stagger, or just the damage bonus effect (weapon, or a charge power enhanced pre block DOT)? Does CHARGE have some kinda melee component?
- Does melee even work when the banshee bubble is up?
- How does the bubble affect debufs, both applied BEFORE and during the bubble (ex. being in the mine scan range while bubbled, v.s. being hit with a proxy mine debuff a second before bubbling... what about a pre-bubble warp)?

This $%!@$* is nebulos, by now someone knows the real answers here. Thanks.

[hellman77]

Banshee bubble of BS negates melee. At least in my experience.

[SoundWraith]

quebra wrote...

After some fruitless searches, this is not as bad a necro as I could have come up with...

Even after reading all of this, I find no definitive answers anywhere. What exactly can harm a Banshee when her power block (shimmer shield) is on?

- Obviously we know REAVE and DC, but is that true of all hitscan powers (ie, overload, etc.)?
- I'd swear CHARGE has an effect even when she's blocking! Maybe it's just the force/stagger, or just the damage bonus effect (weapon, or a charge power enhanced pre block DOT)? Does CHARGE have some kinda melee component?
- Does melee even work when the banshee bubble is up?
- How does the bubble affect debufs, both applied BEFORE and during the bubble (ex. being in the mine scan range while bubbled, v.s. being hit with a proxy mine debuff a second before bubbling... what about a pre-bubble warp)?

This $%!@$* is nebulos, by now someone knows the real answers here. Thanks.

Protip: the banshee's bubble makes her more suspectible to gunfire aka pump her full of lead for extra damage when the bubble is up. 

The phantom's bubble extends her hitbox to the entire bubble so you can shoot her bubble to damage her instead.

Praetorians' bubble grants power immunity and weapon DR so it's never a good idea to trigger the crab's bubble if you can help it. 

[hellman77]

Element 0 wrote...

^ Praetorian bubble is almost impossible no avoid and that's when playing with people who know the mechanics. With PUGS it's IMPOSSIBLE to avoid.

Ha ha. That's true.  Pugs seems to go out of their way making  sure that the bubble is up more or less permanently

[SoundWraith]

Element 0 wrote...

^ Praetorian bubble is almost impossible no avoid and that's when playing with people who know the mechanics. With PUGS it's IMPOSSIBLE to avoid.

Just advise for him to keep in mind.. so that he can point fingers and come to BSN to make a thread about others being scrubs who keep triggering the bubble. 

[Beerfish]

Praetorian bubble stinks because it is yet another mechanic against the collectors to negate power users. The thing that has me the most in an uproar these days is the lolgoons invulnerability when going into whip mode.

[NuclearTech76]

I like triggering the bubble. Who doesn't love bubbles?

[Wizard of Ox]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

I like triggering the bubble. Who doesn't love bubbles?

no one

[Cyonan]

Beerfish wrote...

Praetorian bubble stinks because it is yet another mechanic against the collectors to negate power users. The thing that has me the most in an uproar these days is the lolgoons invulnerability when going into whip mode.

Dragoons do not get invulnerability at any point.

Although once they begin a charge, they're essentially impossible to stagger.

Modifié par Cyonan, 30 septembre 2013 - 03:07 .

[NuclearTech76]

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

I like triggering the bubble. Who doesn't love bubbles?

no one

Hilarious and also my playstyle when playing collectors.

[Beerfish]

Cyonan wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Praetorian bubble stinks because it is yet another mechanic against the collectors to negate power users. The thing that has me the most in an uproar these days is the lolgoons invulnerability when going into whip mode.

Dragoons do not get invulnerability at any point.

Although once they begin a charge, they're essentially impossible to stagger.

I'll have to watch my games closer then.  I seem to do no damage at all on them when they go into whip charge mode.

[hellman77]

Cyonan wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Praetorian bubble stinks because it is yet another mechanic against the collectors to negate power users. The thing that has me the most in an uproar these days is the lolgoons invulnerability when going into whip mode.

Dragoons do not get invulnerability at any point.

Although once they begin a charge, they're essentially impossible to stagger.

But it is a good time to go Krogan HM 

[NuclearTech76]

Beerfish wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Praetorian bubble stinks because it is yet another mechanic against the collectors to negate power users. The thing that has me the most in an uproar these days is the lolgoons invulnerability when going into whip mode.

Dragoons do not get invulnerability at any point.

Although once they begin a charge, they're essentially impossible to stagger.

I'll have to watch my games closer then.  I seem to do no damage at all on them when they go into whip charge mode.

They take damage just hard to stagger them once they start that windup for the smash.

[holdenagincourt]

It was fun re-reading the first page of this and reminiscing about a time when we cared about the relative balance of power between casters and weapons platforms classes.

Now none of it is worth a fig anymore, working as abandoned, etc.

[RealKobeBean]

To the point were they are nearly perma-on. And only the Phantom has a drawback of inability to move or attack you when she put her barrier hand on. 

The other two can move, shoot and do all the things they normally do. That's BS. Screws up power classes and in general 100% power damage negation is stupid. Why can't it be 50%? 75%?  Why can't there be a cooldown between uses? 

And Praetorians have a **** load of armor and barriers to begin with. And I'm not talking about possesed ones.

Cheaters bastards, aren't they? Maybe, Bioware will nerf them the next time. You were right calling BS on this!

[Darth Volus]

^ I can't wait for his response 

 

2012 called. 

[RealKobeBean]

^ I can't wait for his response 
 
2012 called.

Me neither. We are in suspense here. Don't leave us hanging, OP.

[BioWareMod03]

This thread has been closed due to unproductive necro.