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[Bfler]

The thing is, that in a normal case, you get a sequence, where the surviving person opens the eyes.

The breath scene reminds me more of a dark action movie, f.e. AvsP, when the alien cracks the body of the dead predator at the end.

Modifié par Bfler, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:27 .

[Obrusnine]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The problem is that it isn't an opinion, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.

2) The narrative implication is there to suggest that Shepard survived the blast--and he did. What other reason would they put that scene in there for? 

To encourage speculation, duh.

[Doommarine23]

Bfler wrote...

The thing is, that in a normal case, you get a sequence, where the surviving person opens the eyes.

The breath scene reminds me more of a dark action movie, f.e. AvsP, when the alien cracks the body of the death predator at the end.

There is no rule in story nor cinematic writing on how to indicate someone is alive.

Modifié par Doommarine23, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:28 .

[essarr71]

Im impressed, OP. did not realize walls of BS could be built that high.

[Yesmar]

Arcian wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The first piece of evidence is the obvious one. The Destroy ending obliterates all technology, this is immediatley established about it. It doesn't just kill the Reapers, it kills all tech, everywhere in the galaxy.

If you want people to take you seriously, play the goddamn EC. If you had, you would have known how blatantly wrong the highlighted statement is.

The EC is not canon.

[DeinonSlayer]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The problem is that it isn't an opinion, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.

You're completely wrong. That's the problem.

1) That is Shepard taking the breath. It's been confirmed by the fact that the sound of the breath corresponds to what gender your Shepard is.

2) The narrative implication is there to suggest that Shepard survived the blast--and he did. What other reason would they put that scene in there for? 

Sorry, the ending isn't as bleak as you say it is.

Guy's a rager. I doubt anything constructive will come out of this thread.

[MegaSovereign]

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The problem is that it isn't an opinion, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.

2) The narrative implication is there to suggest that Shepard survived the blast--and he did. What other reason would they put that scene in there for? 

To encourage speculation, duh.

So the scene is designed to indefinitely kill off Shepard...but now it's designed for speculation?

Make up your mind.

[Obrusnine]

Arcian wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The first piece of evidence is the obvious one. The Destroy ending obliterates all technology, this is immediatley established about it. It doesn't just kill the Reapers, it kills all tech, everywhere in the galaxy.

If you want people to take you seriously, play the goddamn EC. If you had, you would have known how blatantly wrong the highlighted statement is.

I sad that's what the Catalyst said it did, I didn't say that's what actually happened. It's a plot hole.

[T-Raks]

The ending is even named "Shepardlives" in the files, it's written in the leaked script, but whatever. Interpret the scene however you want. It isn't important, because Shepard finished his mission.

[Dr_Extrem]

Yesmar wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The first piece of evidence is the obvious one. The Destroy ending obliterates all technology, this is immediatley established about it. It doesn't just kill the Reapers, it kills all tech, everywhere in the galaxy.

If you want people to take you seriously, play the goddamn EC. If you had, you would have known how blatantly wrong the highlighted statement is.

The EC is not canon.

there is no canon at all. only speculations.

[Obrusnine]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The problem is that it isn't an opinion, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.

2) The narrative implication is there to suggest that Shepard survived the blast--and he did. What other reason would they put that scene in there for? 

To encourage speculation, duh.

So the scene is designed to indefinitely kill off Shepard...but now it's designed for speculation?

Make up your mind.

I didn't say the scene was designed to kill off Shepard, only that the odds of it being Shepard are nil.

[Robhuzz]

So that scene made no sense? The same is true for rest of the ending so what's the big deal here?

The entire thing made not an ounce of sense, and you're complaining about that one breath scene?

[DeinonSlayer]

Obrusnine wrote...

No, I'm pretty sure it's a plot hole. How could I be wrong about it being a plot hole when the ships after the destroy ending are obviously intact and functioning even though the destroy ending fries all tech? 

This is the part you're wrong about. You're arguing conclusions drawn from a false assumption. You can plainly see it didn't, but you insist that it did, and the writers somehow forgot it.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 12 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[MegaSovereign]

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The problem is that it isn't an opinion, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.

2) The narrative implication is there to suggest that Shepard survived the blast--and he did. What other reason would they put that scene in there for? 

To encourage speculation, duh.

So the scene is designed to indefinitely kill off Shepard...but now it's designed for speculation?

Make up your mind.

I didn't say the scene was designed to kill off Shepard, only that the odds of it being Shepard are nil.

You ignored my first point.

That IS Shepard. The sound of the breath corresponds to Shepard's gender.

[Doommarine23]

Seriously you guys, I show the files which clearly state it's an intended scene of life, and the developers themselves obviously meant the endings to be open-ended.

I just don't get it about you people. If you want your Shepard to live, just think that and move on. Open-Ended endings are not supposed to hold your hands.

[Obrusnine]

T-Raks wrote...

The ending is even named "Shepardlives" in the files, it's written in the leaked script, but whatever. Interpret the scene however you want. It isn't important, because Shepard finished his mission.

I totally agree. Just because it's called Shepardlives doesn't mean it...

1. Makes sense.

or

2. Is actually Shepard. Shepard is actually a pretty common last name you know. That's kind of why they picked it.

[DextroDNA]

Yes, Bioware put a 3 second clip of a random N7 soldier wearing the same armour as Shepard, that changes the sound of the breath depending on what gender your character was... for no reason.

Just for teh lulz. Couldn't have been Shepard.

Also, Indoctrination Theory?

[T-Raks]

Yesmar wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The first piece of evidence is the obvious one. The Destroy ending obliterates all technology, this is immediatley established about it. It doesn't just kill the Reapers, it kills all tech, everywhere in the galaxy.

If you want people to take you seriously, play the goddamn EC. If you had, you would have known how blatantly wrong the highlighted statement is.

The EC is not canon.

Of course it is canon, because the only thing it does is clarifying, what the writers wanted to tell you

[Obrusnine]

Doommarine23 wrote...

Seriously you guys, I show the files which clearly state it's an intended scene of life, and the developers themselves obviously meant the endings to be open-ended.

I just don't get it about you people. If you want your Shepard to live, just think that and move on. Open-Ended endings are not supposed to hold your hands.

I would love it if Shepard lives, but it's impossible that he did. I'm just being realistic.

[MegaSovereign]

Obrusnine wrote...

T-Raks wrote...

The ending is even named "Shepardlives" in the files, it's written in the leaked script, but whatever. Interpret the scene however you want. It isn't important, because Shepard finished his mission.

I totally agree. Just because it's called Shepardlives doesn't mean it...

1. Makes sense.

or

2. Is actually Shepard. Shepard is actually a pretty common last name you know. That's kind of why they picked it.

Are you trolling?

[Obrusnine]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Yes, Bioware put a 3 second clip of a random N7 soldier wearing the same armour as Shepard, that changes the sound of the breath depending on what gender your character was... for no reason.

Just for teh lulz. Couldn't have been Shepard.

Also, Indoctrination Theory?

The reason is to encourage speculation. Which is exactly what we're doing now. Although, honestly, what I said is common sense which apparently a lot of people don't know how to use.

[Obrusnine]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

T-Raks wrote...

The ending is even named "Shepardlives" in the files, it's written in the leaked script, but whatever. Interpret the scene however you want. It isn't important, because Shepard finished his mission.

I totally agree. Just because it's called Shepardlives doesn't mean it...

1. Makes sense.

or

2. Is actually Shepard. Shepard is actually a pretty common last name you know. That's kind of why they picked it.

Are you trolling?

Absolutely not. I am telling the 100-percent truth.

[MegaSovereign]

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

T-Raks wrote...

The ending is even named "Shepardlives" in the files, it's written in the leaked script, but whatever. Interpret the scene however you want. It isn't important, because Shepard finished his mission.

I totally agree. Just because it's called Shepardlives doesn't mean it...

1. Makes sense.

or

2. Is actually Shepard. Shepard is actually a pretty common last name you know. That's kind of why they picked it.

Are you trolling?

Absolutely not. I am telling the 100-percent truth.

K

[futurepixels]

 Where is Chris P. to edit the title of this thread like he did with the "Shepard is alive" thread a couple months back?

[Obrusnine]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

The problem is that it isn't an opinion, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.

2) The narrative implication is there to suggest that Shepard survived the blast--and he did. What other reason would they put that scene in there for? 

To encourage speculation, duh.

So the scene is designed to indefinitely kill off Shepard...but now it's designed for speculation?

Make up your mind.

I didn't say the scene was designed to kill off Shepard, only that the odds of it being Shepard are nil.

You ignored my first point.

That IS Shepard. The sound of the breath corresponds to Shepard's gender.

That is not definitive proof that it is Shepard. Only a result of your decision.