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[jpraelster93]

Obrusnine wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

Shepard is dead? Really?

How about
End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem
End03_Shepard_Alive_Male

Those are the breathing scenes. Pretty obvious what they intended.

What the dev intended and what actually happened are two entirely different things.

Its in the game files you lose he is alive if you pick destory you cant deny proof like this

[DextroDNA]

jpraelster93 wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

Shepard is dead? Really?

How about
End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem
End03_Shepard_Alive_Male

Those are the breathing scenes. Pretty obvious what they intended.

OP is ignoring this.

Knows he's wrong.

Lol.

[CDR David Shepard]

Obrusnine wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Guys he's trolling you. He can't be that stupid, the devs themselves even said it was Shepard.

They never said specifically it was Shepard, only alluded to it.

How is it stupid that I'm interpreting obvious evidence with an investigator's sense, impartial.

While I do believe you to be having fun while trolling us...I will continue to bite.

You say "with an investigator's sense"...yet you're very quick to dismiss the breathe scenes gender being male or female depending on if your Shepard is male or female.

That evidence alone should make anyone "with an investigator's sense" see the intended purpose of the scene.

Not to mention that the name of the files for each scene has been provided to you by posters in this thread.

[thebigbad1013]

Doommarine23 wrote...

Shepard is dead? Really?

How about
End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem
End03_Shepard_Alive_Male

Those are the breathing scenes. Pretty obvious what they intended.

This.

They intentionally left the ending open to interpretation so it's really not possible to say for sure one way or the other, but the intent of that scene is made obvious by this. Of course the soldier was Shepard, otherwise what would be the point of that scene?

Also, my Shepard did survive

[Obrusnine]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

If you're going to continue to insist, based on no evidence, that all cybernetics were destroyed AND Shepard is on Earth, I'm afraid we're not going to get anywhere.

This thread was created to cement OP's own beliefs, not to receive opinions from others. In technological terms, he closed his input channel. Consequently, what is coming out of his output channel is rubbish.

I find it funny how everyone is telling me this is bull and stuff when absolutely no one has provided anything but inconsequential evidence to the contrary.

I also don't need to cement my beliefs, this is common sense which everyone appears to be ignoring. I just wanted to point all of this out so that you stop posting "omg Shepard's alive" and crap when it's not true.

You've provided no evidence that "all cybernetics," or "all tech" is destroyed. We have compelling evidence to the contrary, which you dismissed as a plot hole out of nothing but your own unwillingness to question your assertion. You have no proof Shepard is on Earth, either.

All of the ships being alive after the destroy explosion is not compelling, it's just bad writing that Bioware doesn't know how to point out what actually happens. Instead they just ignore it and press ahead and only destroy what is convenient for them to destroy.

Well, where else would he be exactly? There are no windows in that chamber, the explosion would've thrown him out into space where he would've been without air for several minutes. Are you telling me he did a full cycle of the Earth and went back into the citadel fast enough that he didn't suffer permenant brain damage from lack of air and then magically revived himself when there was no one else around?  The only other option is him landing back down on Earth, which is an equally non-sense explanation.

[DextroDNA]

OP - stop fighting.

Lines of code identify it as Shepard. That destroys all other "proof" you have.

Leave, and take your herecy with you. We don't need people like you stirring up trouble here for no reason.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Wait, what is "Rebar"?

[maxloef]

Doommarine23 wrote...

Shepard is dead? Really?

How about
End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem
End03_Shepard_Alive_Male

Those are the breathing scenes. Pretty obvious what they intended.

QFT

[DextroDNA]

Also, not all technology gets destroyed. In fact, none gets destroyed except Reaper tech.

Reapers - Reaper Tech.

Relays - Reaper Tech

Citadel - Reaper Tech

Geth - upgraded to use Reaper Tech

EDI - built out of Reaper Tech

Shepard - NOT Reaper Tech.

[maia0407]

It's just ridiculous, that wasn't my main piece of evidence anyways, just something to compliment the already obvious evidence.

The other part of your post dealt with whether or not Shep could survive re-entry. Here's the problem; we have no idea where Shep is located at this point. She could still be on the Citadel or she could be on earth. If she's on earth we don't know how she got there although atmospheric re-entry is one scenario. The point is, we just can't say, hey, I have proof that Shep is dead/alive based purely on assumptions being made.

I totally agree, the Catalyst is the stupidest AI I've ever come into contact with. The writing for his character is just awful.

Yup. No arguement there!

Modifié par maia0407, 12 novembre 2012 - 09:15 .

[DeinonSlayer]

He's. Still. In. The. Chamber.

Destroy only targets Reaper tech.

This is not hard stuff to understand. If the base assertions you're drawing conclusions from don't match what you're actually seeing, the problem is with your base assertions.

It would be like a climatologist insisting the REAL WORLD is wrong because the temperatures he's reading don't match the predictions he made.

[Obrusnine]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Guys he's trolling you. He can't be that stupid, the devs themselves even said it was Shepard.

They never said specifically it was Shepard, only alluded to it.

How is it stupid that I'm interpreting obvious evidence with an investigator's sense, impartial.

While I do believe you to be having fun while trolling us...I will continue to bite.

You say "with an investigator's sense"...yet you're very quick to dismiss the breathe scenes gender being male or female depending on if your Shepard is male or female.

That evidence alone should make anyone "with an investigator's sense" see the intended purpose of the scene.

Not to mention that the name of the files for each scene has been provided to you by posters in this thread.

I again say the intended purpose doesn't matter, what actually happened does. I also said that that evidence is not definitive, which it isn't. I mean, you could at least be nice enough to select another piece of evidence, but instead you all keep forcing the same piece of evidence even though it is not definitive.

I also already said that Shepard is a common name and that the files were left there for coders to find to give you yet more hope that he's alive when that is so statistically improbable that I would bet my life that he did not survive. Like I said, even if he did survive everything that happened, he was still alone with no one to provide the immediate medical attention he needed, meaning he would've bled out either way.

[DextroDNA]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Also, not all technology gets destroyed. In fact, none gets destroyed except Reaper tech.

Reapers - Reaper Tech.

Relays - Reaper Tech

Citadel - Reaper Tech

Geth - upgraded to use Reaper Tech

EDI - built out of Reaper Tech

Shepard - NOT Reaper Tech.

Just so OP can see.

[maxloef]

Obrusnine wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Guys he's trolling you. He can't be that stupid, the devs themselves even said it was Shepard.

They never said specifically it was Shepard, only alluded to it.

How is it stupid that I'm interpreting obvious evidence with an investigator's sense, impartial.

While I do believe you to be having fun while trolling us...I will continue to bite.

You say "with an investigator's sense"...yet you're very quick to dismiss the breathe scenes gender being male or female depending on if your Shepard is male or female.

That evidence alone should make anyone "with an investigator's sense" see the intended purpose of the scene.

Not to mention that the name of the files for each scene has been provided to you by posters in this thread.

I again say the intended purpose doesn't matter, what actually happened does. I also said that that evidence is not definitive, which it isn't. I mean, you could at least be nice enough to select another piece of evidence, but instead you all keep forcing the same piece of evidence even though it is not definitive.

I also already said that Shepard is a common name and that the files were left there for coders to find to give you yet more hope that he's alive when that is so statistically improbable that I would bet my life that he did not survive. Like I said, even if he did survive everything that happened, he was still alone with no one to provide the immediate medical attention he needed, meaning he would've bled out either way.

Its funny how in one moment you dismiss what you see on screen as bad writing and seconds later use it to further your already weak argument..

[Obrusnine]

RussianZombeh wrote...

OP - stop fighting.

Lines of code identify it as Shepard. That destroys all other "proof" you have.

Leave, and take your herecy with you. We don't need people like you stirring up trouble here for no reason.

Can you stop using "lines of code" as an excuse and provide a piece of relevant evidence from inside the actual game please?

[DextroDNA]

Obrusnine wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

OP - stop fighting.

Lines of code identify it as Shepard. That destroys all other "proof" you have.

Leave, and take your herecy with you. We don't need people like you stirring up trouble here for no reason.

Can you stop using "lines of code" as an excuse and provide a piece of relevant evidence from inside the actual game please?

The game is MADE of the lines of code, you numpty.

Also, see my other post.

Then lock thread.

[Obrusnine]

maxloef wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Guys he's trolling you. He can't be that stupid, the devs themselves even said it was Shepard.

They never said specifically it was Shepard, only alluded to it.

How is it stupid that I'm interpreting obvious evidence with an investigator's sense, impartial.

While I do believe you to be having fun while trolling us...I will continue to bite.

You say "with an investigator's sense"...yet you're very quick to dismiss the breathe scenes gender being male or female depending on if your Shepard is male or female.

That evidence alone should make anyone "with an investigator's sense" see the intended purpose of the scene.

Not to mention that the name of the files for each scene has been provided to you by posters in this thread.

I again say the intended purpose doesn't matter, what actually happened does. I also said that that evidence is not definitive, which it isn't. I mean, you could at least be nice enough to select another piece of evidence, but instead you all keep forcing the same piece of evidence even though it is not definitive.

I also already said that Shepard is a common name and that the files were left there for coders to find to give you yet more hope that he's alive when that is so statistically improbable that I would bet my life that he did not survive. Like I said, even if he did survive everything that happened, he was still alone with no one to provide the immediate medical attention he needed, meaning he would've bled out either way.

Its funny how in one moment you dismiss what you see on screen as bad writing and seconds later use it to further your already weak argument..

Just because it's bad writing doesn't mean I can't use it as evidence. What, is there a rule I can only use evidence from good writing? 

Also, I argue that your argument is weak because your side has yet to provide any definitive evidence.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

Moderator coming in 3..2...1

Fail! HAHAHAAH

[tanisha__unknown]

OP: you're making the mistake of assuming that the ending is actually logical. This has been proven wrong conclusively almost the day it was finished first in some region of the world.

[Obrusnine]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

OP - stop fighting.

Lines of code identify it as Shepard. That destroys all other "proof" you have.

Leave, and take your herecy with you. We don't need people like you stirring up trouble here for no reason.

Can you stop using "lines of code" as an excuse and provide a piece of relevant evidence from inside the actual game please?

The game is MADE of the lines of code, you numpty.

Also, see my other post.

Then lock thread.

You know what I meant, the story itself, what you could see and hear.

[SNascimento]

Of course he does.

[futurepixels]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

futurepixels wrote...

 Where is Chris P. to edit the title of this thread like he did with the "Shepard is alive" thread a couple months back?

i was just thinking this

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that.

Modifié par futurepixels, 12 novembre 2012 - 09:22 .

[DextroDNA]

Obrusnine wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

OP - stop fighting.

Lines of code identify it as Shepard. That destroys all other "proof" you have.

Leave, and take your herecy with you. We don't need people like you stirring up trouble here for no reason.

Can you stop using "lines of code" as an excuse and provide a piece of relevant evidence from inside the actual game please?

The game is MADE of the lines of code, you numpty.

Also, see my other post.

Then lock thread.

You know what I meant, the story itself, what you could see and hear.

I could see Shepard.

Also, you're still ignoring my other post.

I think I've made my point

[garrusfan1]

TROLL you are wrong shep lived and not all tech was destroyed otherwise the ships it space are dead and shep is alive and will live. Also why am I arguing with a troll

[Obrusnine]

Jinx1720 wrote...

OP: you're making the mistake of assuming that the ending is actually logical. This has been proven wrong conclusively almost the day it was finished first in some region of the world.

True, although let's just say I would like to assume the ending is logical just like you guys like to assume Shepard is alive.