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[Kyerea]

Mattock X

130 Damage

324 Headshot Damage

120 Capacity

0.9 Weight

16 Clip Size

450.0 RPM

971 Burst DPS

591 Sustained DPS

730.2 Reload Cancel DPS

80 Damage vs. Gold Armor

363 Sustained Armor DPS vs. Gold Armor

448 Reload Cancelled Armor DPS vs. Gold Armor

1.4 seconds for Reload Speed


Geth ****** Rifle X

34 (36 since update.) Damage

86 (115.2 since update. Still worthless, the other stats are still too useless to bother re-calculating.) Headshot Damage

640 Capacity

.50 Weight

80 Clip Size

900 RPM

513 Burst DPS

332.3 Sustained DPS

413.6 Reload Cancelled DPS

5 Damage vs Gold Armor (The MINIMUM damage allocation to an armored target.)

49 Sustained DPS vs. Gold Armor

61 Reload Cancelled DPS vs. Gold Armor

2.9 seconds for Reload Speed



Editor's Note: 1.) The GPR is terrible, stop using it. Seriously, you are hurting the team and yourself. 2.) The Mattock can be maxed out faster due to Uncommon rarirty, cheaper to spam Veteran Packs, less Uncommon weapons in the game than Rare weapons to clog up RNG. 3.) The Vindicator X is stronger than the Geth ****** Rifle, will add stats if people are curious to it's fail. 4.) No mods are calculated in these statlines, since I like adding fuel to the fire.

Modifié par Kyerea, 13 novembre 2012 - 01:25 .

[RNG God]

Modifié par SalvationThroughDestruction, 13 novembre 2012 - 12:49 .

[Moby]

But the popcorn launcher's so fun...

[immanji]

LOL

[whalewhisker]

Haha how sad

[DHKany]

I bet you a five year old with a super soaker deals better damage vs armor.

[Kyerea]

DHKany wrote...

I bet you a five year old with a super soaker deals better damage vs armor.

That is going in my sig.

[Kyerea]

Logic of GPR and Mattock.

GPR has double the RPM and x6 the ammo capacity of the Mattock, yet deals three-times less damage and has half the sustained dps.

[Transairion]

Neither the Mattock nor Vindicator are full auto AR's (the best kind of AR's)

I hate burst-fire weapons. Hate. So GPR still gets priority for me, lol

[Kyerea]

Transairion wrote...

Neither the Mattock nor Vindicator are full auto AR's (the best kind of AR's)

I hate burst-fire weapons. Hate. So GPR still gets priority for me, lol

Dude, whether an AR is full-auto or not has nothing to do with how good it is as a weapon. For example, Saber isn't full-auto, yet it is one of higher end Assault Rifles in terms of damage and capability. The Mattock is one of the higher-end assault rifles in the game and is semi-auto. In fact, the Mattock outpaces the Revenant, the Geth ****** Rifle and CAR which are all full-auto. The Mattock actually packs a punch and is pretty light to boot. Mattock lulzinates the GPR, period.

[Zancloufer]

Geth Pulse rifle isn't that bad if you aim for the face. Plus you got a number of it's stats wrong. 36 base damage, 108 HS damage and 100 clip size.

Have some fun with Marksmen and aiming for the face. 3.2k DPS with perfect accuracy before Mods/passives/gear/equipment with perfect accuracy is pretty nice. More of a Mook slayer supreme than a boss killer so you'd need a second weapon for that.

[Moby]

Kyerea wrote...

The Mattock is one of the higher-end assault rifles in the game and is semi-auto. In fact, the Mattock outpaces the Revenant, the Geth ****** Rifle and CAR which are all full-auto. The Mattock actually packs a punch and is pretty light to boot. Mattock lulzinates the GPR, period.

But I murk weenies on Bronze with my popcorn launcher VII, whereas my Matcrock II takes a full mag to drop a single Centurion...

[DHKany]

Zancloufer wrote...

Geth Pulse rifle isn't that bad if you aim for the face. Plus you got a number of it's stats wrong. 36 base damage, 108 HS damage and 100 clip size.

Have some fun with Marksmen and aiming for the face. 3.2k DPS with perfect accuracy before Mods/passives/gear/equipment with perfect accuracy is pretty nice. More of a Mook slayer supreme than a boss killer so you'd need a second weapon for that.

Now put on a Mattock and see what happens. 

[Amusingthree93]

I knew that GPR dps against gold armor was bad but 49dps? Really?

Also what is the difference between sustained and burst fire dps?

[Kyerea]

DHKany wrote...

Zancloufer wrote...

Geth Pulse rifle isn't that bad if you aim for the face. Plus you got a number of it's stats wrong. 36 base damage, 108 HS damage and 100 clip size.

Have some fun with Marksmen and aiming for the face. 3.2k DPS with perfect accuracy before Mods/passives/gear/equipment with perfect accuracy is pretty nice. More of a Mook slayer supreme than a boss killer so you'd need a second weapon for that.

Now put on a Mattock and see what happens. 

^Man speaks the truth.

OH MAN, NOT TWO EXTRA DAMAGE AND SLIGHTLY HIGHER HEADSHOT MODIFIER! Clearly this weapon is unbelievably broken now.

Edit: Btw dude, even with the x3.2 headshot modifier, it still deals less headshot damage than a Mattock.

 
Courtesy of Salvation.

Modifié par Kyerea, 13 novembre 2012 - 01:03 .

[Zancloufer]

DHKany wrote...

Zancloufer wrote...

Geth Pulse rifle isn't that bad if you aim for the face. Plus you got a number of it's stats wrong. 36 base damage, 108 HS damage and 100 clip size.

Have some fun with Marksmen and aiming for the face. 3.2k DPS with perfect accuracy before Mods/passives/gear/equipment with perfect accuracy is pretty nice. More of a Mook slayer supreme than a boss killer so you'd need a second weapon for that.

Now put on a Mattock and see what happens. 

Because you can totally fire 450 RPM semi-autp with perfect accuracy?  Yes on PAPER the Mattock does the same DPS, but it's almost impossible to fire that fast and hit at the same time. 

Not saying the Mattock is a bad gun, just that I never consider it a DPS weapon as it's almost impossible to fire it accuratly anywhere near it's max RoF.

[Transairion]

Dude, whether an AR is full-auto or not has nothing to do with how good it is as a weapon. For example, Saber isn't full-auto, yet it is one of higher end Assault Rifles in terms of damage and capability. The Mattock is one of the higher-end assault rifles in the game and is semi-auto. In fact, the Mattock outpaces the Revenant, the Geth ****** Rifle and CAR which are all full-auto. The Mattock actually packs a punch and is pretty light to boot. Mattock lulzinates the GPR, period.

Effectivness doesn't matter if my fingers break from clickclickclickclickclicking a non-auto weapon every time I use it. There's a reason I hate the Raptor with a passion.

The Revenant is still a pathetic shadow of it's ME2 self even though it's been buffed repeatedly (sadly so has the CAR, lol), so they're not really good comparisons. There are worse weapons than the GPR...

[RNG God]

Zancloufer wrote...

Because you can totally fire 450 RPM semi-autp with perfect accuracy?  Yes on PAPER the Mattock does the same DPS, but it's almost impossible to fire that fast and hit at the same time. 

Not saying the Mattock is a bad gun, just that I never consider it a DPS weapon as it's almost impossible to fire it accuratly anywhere near it's max RoF.

So what? About 8 rounds per second? Easy enough on PS3 (Even easier on PC w/ Macro)

[Kyerea]

Zancloufer wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Zancloufer wrote...

Geth Pulse rifle isn't that bad if you aim for the face. Plus you got a number of it's stats wrong. 36 base damage, 108 HS damage and 100 clip size.

Have some fun with Marksmen and aiming for the face. 3.2k DPS with perfect accuracy before Mods/passives/gear/equipment with perfect accuracy is pretty nice. More of a Mook slayer supreme than a boss killer so you'd need a second weapon for that.

Now put on a Mattock and see what happens. 

Because you can totally fire 450 RPM semi-autp with perfect accuracy?  Yes on PAPER the Mattock does the same DPS, but it's almost impossible to fire that fast and hit at the same time. 

Not saying the Mattock is a bad gun, just that I never consider it a DPS weapon as it's almost impossible to fire it accuratly anywhere near it's max RoF.

For PC players, headshotting consistently and most of the time is quite simple actually. So what you are saying is that without a doubt you are headshotting 100% of the time in every game, every situation, every wave, against every enemy at every moment with your GPR? Uh-huh, sure.

[Zaidra]

 On a GI it gets the geth weapon damage bonus, and is lighter than the mattock.
It's all about preference. Sure it kills slower, but it has more ammo capacity and it doesn't break your mouse when you use it.

[DHKany]

Zancloufer wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Zancloufer wrote...

Geth Pulse rifle isn't that bad if you aim for the face. Plus you got a number of it's stats wrong. 36 base damage, 108 HS damage and 100 clip size.

Have some fun with Marksmen and aiming for the face. 3.2k DPS with perfect accuracy before Mods/passives/gear/equipment with perfect accuracy is pretty nice. More of a Mook slayer supreme than a boss killer so you'd need a second weapon for that.

Now put on a Mattock and see what happens. 

Because you can totally fire 450 RPM semi-autp with perfect accuracy?  Yes on PAPER the Mattock does the same DPS, but it's almost impossible to fire that fast and hit at the same time. 

Not saying the Mattock is a bad gun, just that I never consider it a DPS weapon as it's almost impossible to fire it accuratly anywhere near it's max RoF.

....... Marksman boost accuracy ya know? And what the mattock does with missing a few shots, the GPR probs cannot make up with almost nothing missing. 

[Zancloufer]

Kyerea wrote...
For PC players, headshotting consistently and most of the time is quite simple actually. So what you are saying is that without a doubt you are headshotting 100% of the time in every game, every situation, every wave, against every enemy at every moment with your GPR? Uh-huh, sure.

Of course not.  But saying you can't headshot reliably with the GPR, what does that say of the Mattock's accuracy?  At full RoF HITTING the same target with the Mattock is comparably hard to headshotting constantly with the GPR. 

Just try the GPR on a Turrian Solider and aim for the face.   It's fun and effective.  Would recomend bringing a Hurricane or similar boss killer with you on the side though.

Mind you with some firing macros Mattock would look ALOT more appealing.

[RNG God]

Zaidra wrote...

 On a GI it gets the geth weapon damage bonus, and is lighter than the mattock.
It's all about preference. Sure it kills slower, but it has more ammo capacity and it doesn't break your mouse when you use it.

[Heggy]

450 RPM => 7.5 bullets per second.
Can you click 15 times in two seconds?
Thus the DPS calculation is pretty meaningless.

Mattock's accuracy is really high, and it's semiautomatic, so the only thing Marksman can do for it is increase headshot damage.

However, the Mattock is a vastly superior weapon. High damage per shot, accurate, and you'll waste a lot less bullets compared to the GPR.

[RNG God]

Zancloufer wrote...

Kyerea wrote...
For PC players, headshotting consistently and most of the time is quite simple actually. So what you are saying is that without a doubt you are headshotting 100% of the time in every game, every situation, every wave, against every enemy at every moment with your GPR? Uh-huh, sure.

Just try the GPR on a Turrian Solider and aim for the face.   It's fun and effective.  Would recomend bringing a Hurricane or similar boss killer with you on the side though.

DHKany wrote...

Now put on a Mattock and see what happens.