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[Avalon Aurora]

I found it mildly amusing and a reminder of how horribad the ending was even, and perhaps even made worse by the Extended Cut (worse in that they pretty much said NO to indoctrination theory and other things you'll hear about in the video if you bother watching it. Just warning that the video is long, and people who hate Smudboy usually will probably not have any different stances on this video, plus it is the third in a set examining the extended cut. Also, SPOILERS!:

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Turned it on for a minute.

Instantly begins with random nitpicks of non-essential detail like the methodology of body placement. Exposition relative to everything that's ever occurred does not make for a better story or game. Do we really need to know why those piles of dead bodies are there? No, there can be some element of mystery without the plot being wrecked.

There are lots of actual complaints you could make about ME3's ending, pointing a finger and saying "What" 9000 times isn't interesting analysis.

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

If he had a better style (think Plinkett from Redlettermedia), he would be able to nitpick effectively, but he has always seemed to come off as pretentious to me... BUT that's just my opinion. He's more of a love-him-or-hate-him kinda guy anyways

[David7204]

The world would be a better place if this ****** jumped in front of a train.

[sammysoso]

Dang, the guy is still at it. Got to admire the amount of time he had to put into these.

This is actually one of his better videos, less ranting, more pointing out of the stupid.

[sammysoso]

David7204 wrote...

The world would be a better place if this ****** jumped in front of a train.

Stay classy...

Modifié par sammysoso, 13 novembre 2012 - 05:51 .

[David7204]

I'm not upset at all. I can quite calmly and peacefully believe that the world would be better off without people like this.

[Seboist]

The sad thing is that smud only scratches the surface of the derp of ME3. He hasn't mentioned how they retconned the Protheans losing due to a surprise decapitation strike and losing control of the relays to...... not having been multicultural(wha...?).

[Seboist]

David7204 wrote...

I'm not upset at all. I can quite calmly and peacefully believe that the world would be better off without people like this.

Any other people you'd like to see purged Comrade Stalin?

[David7204]

Plenty.

[spockjedi]

Another excellent video. I only missed a scream at the end.

[David7204]

Is thinking the world would be better off without some people suddenly unique?

[sammysoso]

David7204 wrote...

Is thinking the world would be better off without some people suddenly unique?

OK, let's just stop this thing right here before the thread gets locked.

The thread is about smubboy's recent video. Try something other than ad-hominem. 

[MegaSovereign]

The video transcribed:

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[Ticonderoga117]

David7204 wrote...

I'm not upset at all. I can quite calmly and peacefully believe that the world would be better off without people like this.

Fiction would be better off with people like him. Things need to make sense.

[Bourne Endeavor]

MegaSovereign wrote...

The video transcribed:

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Actually, it translates into how horrendously poorly written the ending is. Skip to the Catalyst portion and he makes a completely valid argument.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not upset at all. I can quite calmly and peacefully believe that the world would be better off without people like this.

Fiction would be better off with people like him. Things need to make sense.

This I partially disagree on. While yes, fiction does require feasible logic, and I like Smudboy's analysis. He is too much toward the opposite extreme. What he does show is BioWare has no business attempting to write anything above generic, because they are terrible at it.

[Ticonderoga117]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
This I partially disagree on. While yes, fiction does require feasible logic, and I like Smudboy's analysis. He is too much toward the opposite extreme. What he does show is BioWare has no business attempting to write anything above generic, because they are terrible at it.

It's the logic part I like. As smud tears into the BS of the ending, it simply makes no sense. Better fiction can be created if things make sense, not if they aim for some high and lofty message, that then doesn't make sense at all. 

Modifié par Ticonderoga117, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:35 .

[RaenImrahl]

This is the second time that @David7204 has suggested that someone should throw themselves in front of the train. Not coincidentally, it's the second time he's being banned for it, too. So let's all agree to forget the Anna Karenina-esque suggestion and get back on topic... we'll see how long civility lasts.

RI

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:36 .

[MegaSovereign]

This analysis fails in the sense that it assumes that the Catalyst is the voice of Bioware.

The Catalyst having a flawed argument and an unjustifiable solution does not imply a narrative failure on Bioware's part.

The biggest problem with the EC aside from the Normandy evac, IMO, is the execution of the ending concepts. The Catalyst may not be the voice of Bioware, but there is never a way for Shepard to properly rebuttal his claims. This in turn confuses the audience into thinking that the Catalyst's argument is the main theme of the series.

EDIT:

This is really all I have to say about this analysis. 

The parts when he isn't talking about the Catalyst comes off as needlessly nitpicky. Also he spends a great deal of time explaining WHY the Catalyst's argument is flawed when he shouldn't have to. The trilogy spends a great deal of time showing us that the Reapers are fallible. Further stating the obvious doesn't change the fact that Bioware probably wants the player to believe that turning people into mechanical cuddlefish is not justifiable.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:43 .

[mumba]

Smudboy makes video's about Mass Effect so that I don't have to. I like his videos.