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[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]Ciryx wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
That was really pathetic, my friend. All four of your points are false.
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You argued against one point, not all 4.
And no, I am not above admitting that my statement was wrong. I wrongly assumed their general approach to harvesting life indicates that they wont use orbital bombardment to oblitarete whole planets. Ehm.... they dont actually do that, do they? As far as I can see they use it to destroy cities, but still deploy groundforces after that. Whatever.
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You are.
You said that i argued against one point, but i argued against 4.
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The original point was that the united Fleet isnt doing any dmg to earth with their shots at the reapers as they approach earth.
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And i proved that point is wrong.
It is even written in fleet tactics, which you of course ignoring.
Your first point, about Klenagon is false, you have no proof. And there is plenty of proof of the opposite
second - obviously wrong, fact that reapers bombarding planets is stated even in ME1.
third - obviously wrong, reaper main gun is what latter became Thanix Cannons of council races. Thanix Cannon is kineto-thermal weapon, which main damage goes from kinetic impact. Which is also stated in codex, and obvious having basic knowledge of physics. Orbital bombarding is also possible(and effective, given enormous acceleration possible with eezo in ME universe) and is standart reaper tactics. And obvious to anyone with basic knowledge of atmosphere(fluid dynamics) and orbital mechanics.
fourth - obviously rubbish, showing you have no idea of physics, not even basics. it sounds reasonable that beamweapons burn a path clear for the payload to be delivered - was especially funny, given the speed of projectiles.
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I am, however, above discussing on a level of name-flinging and calling others "pathetic". Have a nice day.
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When someone, defending ME3 garbage writing, resorting to a inventing things to prove their point - i call that pathetic.
Have a nice day.
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That was so... thoughtless.
I will humor you this one time and answer you:
Whats written in fleet tactics is how a fleet usually approaches a hostile planet which it tries to occupy and/or destroy. It goes into great detail how it is difficult if the planet is a habitable garden world etc etc.
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Bwahahaha
:lol:So, if planet is not hostile, it is ok to bombard it with WMD grade weaponry. Riiiight.
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Thats all nice and dandy if the united fleet would actually try to attack earth. They dont. They try to save it. From the reapers. Thats what the game is about.
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It shows that EAWare does not care for lore and common sense.
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My first point about Klendragon is wrong? How? You say something here without elaborating. You proof nothing, you dont argue at all. In fact I think you are trolling.
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You already proven wrong and you even admitted it.
You are just inventing things. ME lore have a lot of information about kinetic weapons, and your assertion about Klendagon attacked by an FTL weapon is based on nothing. It even contradicts ME3 codex, but it is obvious you don't care.
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Third: It is stated in the codex that the slugs are 4025m/s fast. The rest of you whole "argument" is just... I have a hard time calling it anything but rubbish. I also calculated the impact energy a 4kg-5kg would have if fired at that speed. And its not stated that reapers use these kind of weapons for orbital bombardment. In fact, we dont even know what they are useing. And also: NO the reaper main weapon isnt a Thanix gun. They derived the design of the Thanix from the reaper weapon, its still a far less effective then actual reaper weapons. As evident in the game.
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Pathetic.
Yes, we know what reapers use in orbital bombardment. They using their spinal mounted main gun with kinetic impact of approximate 400kt tnt equivalent. This is a WMD. It is shown and written in codex.
And yes, reaper main gun is thanix cannon, which is also stated in codex.
Development
After the Battle of the Citadel in 2183, human
and turian volunteers spent three months clearing the station's orbit
of debris. During the cleanup, the turians secretly salvaged Sovereign's
powerful main gun along with much of the weapon's element zero core.
Eleven months later, the turians introduced the Thanix, a scaled-down
version of the weapon.
Design
The Thanix's core is a liquid alloy of iron, uranium, and tungsten
suspended in an electromagnetic field powered by element zero. The
molten metal, accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of
light, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired, hitting targets with
enough force to pierce any known shield or armor. The gun can fire
reliably every five seconds. The weapon's relatively small size allows
it to be mounted on most fighters or frigates, including the Normandy SR-2, and gives them firepower rivaling cruisers.
And of course, turian version is less powerful, because of the length of the barrel. It is not spinal mounted, so it is obvious that it is much less powerful.
Also, reapers have twice larger gun(2km) than any ship, and more powerful eezo core, and their estimated kinetic impact is ten times more than of Earth Alliance dreadnought.
You just demonstrated, that you completely ignoring codex and inventing things to prove your point.
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Fourth: You know that ME is Sci-Fi and Ezo doesnt exist? Good. These weapons heavily use ezo, so what i presume these things are capable of has nothing to do with physics. Thats also why I said I presume it, not stating it as a fact. Again: If you claim something is rubbish, please elaborate.
I think its especially usefull for high-speed weapons to "burn a path" through athmosphere. Even todays experimental rail guns face that problem:
"The rails and projectiles must be built from strong conductive materials; the rails need to survive the violence of an accelerating projectile, and heating due to the large currents and friction involved."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun
http://upload.wikime...usnavy_2008.jpg
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Eezo is fictional material, allowing for effective acceleration of projectiles. And those projectiles is obeying laws of physics.
It is also stated in codex, in game, and you know, in physics and real life research and experiments.
Yes, it is impossible for human-made projectiles to reach such speeds based on current technology. But, you know, such projectiles exists, science have a lot of evidence, that newton's laws works.
Also shows your ignorance.
it sounds reasonable that beamweapons burn a path clear for the payload to be delivered - that's what i called rubbish. Well, you have no idea about fluid dynamics anyway, so it is pointless.
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You are a very intelligent person.
Retour en haut
But again: You are right in all points you made and I am totally wrong with all my points. Its fine boy, let it rest. 
