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[Barbantious]

When Mass Effect 3 is advertised as being accessible to newcomers then it's perfectly reasonable to critique it for failing in that regard. Just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean NO ONE cares. And to be honest, the beginning doesn't really make any sense to people who have played the previous games anyway since it's missing the court hearing that was supposed to happen, and shepard ends up under house arrest whether or not he blew up the relay. The beginning of the game is the only part of the game that compares to the ending in levels of stupidity and nonsense.

[spotlessvoid]

That's because we didn't need another court scene, and it makes sense they tucked Shepard away to keep the Batarians quiet without actually putting him on trial. And Arrival is canon, which brings me to my next point:

What else are they going to say, don't buy our game? Anyone who cares deeply enough about the narrative shouldn't be dumb enough to expect everything explained to them at the beginning of part 3. Anyone who cares deeply about the narrative shouldn't be skipping major story dlc like Arrival unless they're ridiculously broke or don't have internet.

[LinksOcarina]

Eh, hes still not entertaining nor is he a good critic.

Although I have seen worse out there. The biggest problem is the overall smugness for me, a sort of "I'm better than you" aura he presents himself in which is very off-putting.

[Teddie Sage]

I don't actually feel that aura. He's just telling what a lot of people actually said about the EC's flaws and kept ranting about. I'm looking forward his next videos.

[Jere85]

Didnt find an aura either. Good video, some nitpicking, but all pretty well laid out.

[spirosz]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

wait..so you respect sugarcoating?

Well okay i guess.

Have you read the Marauder Shield comics?  I respect the effort he puts in and why he does it, especially because of the quality he presents.  He's willing to do what a lot of people wanted originally from the game, call it sugarcoating all you want, won't change what it has done for some people concerning the series itself - it's brought them a sense of hope and positivity for a series they either love or loved. 

Modifié par spirosz, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:42 .

[LinksOcarina]

Teddie Sage wrote...

I don't actually feel that aura. He's just telling what a lot of people actually said about the EC's flaws and kept ranting about. I'm looking forward his next videos.

I don't know.It just feels very...pompous to me. And as a guy who does get like that who does feel pretentious sometimes when I write and talk to people, I can see why it is off-putting on others. Maybe I am just real observant to such behavior because of my own training to spot it, but I just get this feeling that Smudboy thinks he knows better than everyone else. 

Incidently, if I ever did get like that on these boards, I do apologize. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:44 .

[Barbantious]

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's because we didn't need another court scene, and it makes sense they tucked Shepard away to keep the Batarians quiet without actually putting him on trial. And Arrival is canon, which brings me to my next point:

What else are they going to say, don't buy our game? Anyone who cares deeply enough about the narrative shouldn't be dumb enough to expect everything explained to them at the beginning of part 3. Anyone who cares deeply about the narrative shouldn't be skipping major story dlc like Arrival unless they're ridiculously broke or don't have internet.

First thing, while arrival is canon, Shepard blowing up the relay isn't, if you didn't play arrival you're told a group of marines did it instead. 

Second thing, how exactly is not punishing someone who blew up a planet, going to calm down the Batarians, they would want to see him punished. 

Third thing, you're helpless. 

[spotlessvoid]

Barbantious wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

That's because we didn't need another court scene, and it makes sense they tucked Shepard away to keep the Batarians quiet without actually putting him on trial. And Arrival is canon, which brings me to my next point:

What else are they going to say, don't buy our game? Anyone who cares deeply enough about the narrative shouldn't be dumb enough to expect everything explained to them at the beginning of part 3. Anyone who cares deeply about the narrative shouldn't be skipping major story dlc like Arrival unless they're ridiculously broke or don't have internet.

First thing, while arrival is canon, Shepard blowing up the relay isn't, if you didn't play arrival you're told a group of marines did it instead. 

Second thing, how exactly is not punishing someone who blew up a planet, going to calm down the Batarians, they would want to see him punished. 

Third thing, you're helpless. 

That's a good one

[Barbantious]

Oh, and we never had a court scene, so I don't know what you're talking about with "another" one.

[LinksOcarina]

Barbantious wrote...

Oh, and we never had a court scene, so I don't know what you're talking about with "another" one.

Just to jump in for no reason whatsover, but is the court scene really necessary in terms of the opening narrative? The point was to show that the Reapers are invading and Shepard is basically brought in as a character witness and tactical advisor after being grounded. 

I mean how would the court scene be a better addition, other than providing backstory and being a rework with/without Arrival? 

[spotlessvoid]

Barbantious wrote...

Oh, and we never had a court scene, so I don't know what you're talking about with "another" one.

Tali

[spotlessvoid]

The court scene would have felt really odd unless it was interrupted by the Reaper invasion. If not the pacing and urgency would have been completely different from the rest ofv the game and tbh would have been a big waste of time and resources by Bioware.

[Ticonderoga117]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Barbantious wrote...

Oh, and we never had a court scene, so I don't know what you're talking about with "another" one.

Just to jump in for no reason whatsover, but is the court scene really necessary in terms of the opening narrative? The point was to show that the Reapers are invading and Shepard is basically brought in as a character witness and tactical advisor after being grounded. 

I mean how would the court scene be a better addition, other than providing backstory and being a rework with/without Arrival? 

Providing continuity? Because you either blew up a freakin' solar system, turned over the Collector Base to a terrorist moron, or worked with said moron.

Continuity and logic in the beginning of the series would be nice.

[Barbantious]

A court scene taking place prior to the invasion, say a month after arrival allows several things to happen. It brings a relatively simple way to bring up your decisions from the past and make them feel significant, or at the very least acknowledged. It sets the story up with a much smoother transition from me2 to me3. The current beginning as is feels very out of place, leading me to believe an additional part of the story is missing. Which is a feeling I get a lot during ME3.

[spotlessvoid]

With a good explanation for each by Shepard and Hackett and Anderson backing him up, plus his service history...yeah, a trial would have been stupid. They grounded him to keep the Batarians from going to war with humanity by showing Shepard was acting unilaterally.

[Ticonderoga117]

spotlessvoid wrote...

With a good explanation for each by Shepard and Hackett and Anderson backing him up, plus his service history...yeah, a trial would have been stupid. They grounded him to keep the Batarians from going to war with humanity by showing Shepard was acting unilaterally.

Shepard, however, would most likely not waste all the time bought by the destruction of Bahak by sitting around and making that event completely worthless.

[huntrrz]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
Actually, it translates into how horrendously poorly written the ending is. Skip to the Catalyst portion and he makes a completely valid argument.

And a broken clock is right twice a day.  I was bemused when people started recommending his first ME3 videos because they agreed with his opinion.  I remember his interminable nitpicking at ME2, and the imperious manner he took when debating people here about it.

I couldn't give too figs that we might agree by coincidence every now and then.  I have no interest in listening to another of his screeds.

[spotlessvoid]

Shepard allowed it because Shepard knew that a War with the Batarians would be a lot more damaging to the alliance before the Reaper war starts then Shepard not running around trying to convince people the Reapers were coming

[TheKillerAngel]

Did he get banned from BSN?

[spotlessvoid]

ME was far from perfect, but besides the ending to 3 it's on a completely different level and standard of story telling than almost anything else

[Mr. MannlyMan]

David7204 wrote...

The world would be a better place if this ****** jumped in front of a train.

Because he makes Youtube videos that you hate? 

Cool. I don't know much about him, his family or how he treats others; all I know is that I want him dead. Because he's a scummy, immoral nitpicker.



Take your damn pill.

[AlexMBrennan]

Meh. Would have been better if he hadn't gone on the logic of godchild, incorrectly alleging that Godchild is wrong: It's quite possible that Godchild solution is logical and based on evidence (which we are not shown, which is bad writing, but never mind).

Specifically, Smudboy doesn't seem to have considered the fact that it's quite enough for some synthetics created by one organics species to wipe out all life for all life to be wiped out.

Also, Godchild could have evidence for this (e.g. having seen it hundreds of times, only preventing the destruction of all life through direct intervention with his uber powerful fleet at the last minute).
Shepard wouldn't be able to verify it and would have no reason for believing it, but Godchild is not necessarily wrong.

Simpler real-world analogy (without the organic-synthetic bovine excrement red herring): Somehow removing every civilisation to discover gunpowder would prevent nuclear war from destroying all life on Earth. If you have reason to think that nuclear war might happen, then such an intervention would be quite logical.

Don't let Godchild's alien morality (we generally think that extant life is more important than future potential life) fool you into thinking that his logic must be flawed.

[spotlessvoid]

That is absolutely ridiculous. Empathy and freedom of choice are the foundation of any civilized morality. starchild is illogical for a hundred different reasons. And you're kill civilization to keep civilization from killing civilization describes starchild's retard logic perfectly

[Barbantious]

Why would it matter if the synthetics might kill off all organic life? They obviously don't care about the advanced life and commit galactic genocide in one of the most gruesome ways imaginable, so why would they care about the primitive life?

The game would have been much better off if they just never explained the reapers at all. Just stop them. Then we can come up with our own explanations for what they are and what they're doing. Especially if "killing off advanced organics because synthetics they create 'might' kill off all organic life" is the best idea you can come up with, because that just sounds like fan fiction.