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[chefcook90]

Every good story needs some kind of conflict to drive the plot - what kind of conflicts/plotlines can you think of for ME4?

All Endings - the Yahg get their hands on mass effect technology, (possibly from those salarians that wanted to uplift them and use them as weapons) and set out on a crusade of brutal galactic conquest.

All Endings - Batarian revolution: the Batarian people fight to overthrow the remnants of the Hegemony.

Control/Synthesis Endings - Second Quarian/Geth conflict: Admiral Xen continues her expiriments on the geth... with terrible results.

Synthesis Ending - the technorganic synthesis greatly increases the lifespan and intelligence of the Vorcha. Now the Vorcha are making plans... and everybody is in trouble.

All Endings - the Leviathans are out to reclaim their place as the galaxy's apex race and start enthralling the other races. The other races aren't happy about this.

Control Ending - The Shepard AI goes crazy, and everyone ends up having to fight the reapers again

All Endings - Krogan Civil War: similar to Turian Unification war - after the Krogan empire expands beyond a certain point, it's outer colonies begin rebelling against the central government. Alternatively, they forgot to hire a food taster for Wrex and a civil war breaks out in the wake of his death.

All Endings - That whole dark-energy-causing-stars-to-die-out thing will finally be addressed.

Modifié par chefcook90, 13 novembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[corporal doody]

all this dark energy stuff.

if anyone was trying to utilize dark energy it should be some human extremist group....me thinks a cell of cerberus. they hijacked a quarian ship. they messed up Haestrom(sp) sun or whatever. yup. now that TiM is dead....a mad mad mad scientist that still believes in Cerberus' cause rises up..FOR THE GLORY OF CERBERUS....for the FUTURE of HUMANITY!!  


yup Humanity is the new badguy

Modifié par corporal doody, 13 novembre 2012 - 07:19 .

[mumba]

The game would be too big if all the ME3 endings were to be taken into account.

corporal doody wrote...

all this dark energy stuff.

Humanity is the new badguy

Hell yeah, humans are evil as f*ck. I'd love it if humans were enemies. 

Modifié par Mumba1511, 13 novembre 2012 - 07:19 .

[chefcook90]

Mumba1511 wrote...

The game would be too big if all the ME3 endings were to be taken into account.

corporal doody wrote...

all this dark energy stuff.

Humanity is the new badguy

Hell yeah, humans are evil as f*ck. I'd love it if humans were enemies. 

Oh, and the Citidel is still in orbit around Earth. Maybe they'll fly it into the sun

[luzburg]

im gonna bet and want to see the leviathans starting trubble they stated they want the galaxy back and i think the main purpose of that DLC is to introduce them as the new bad guys

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

I felt like the whole point of the original trilogy was about uniting the galaxy, so it kind of feels redundant if it was just about races not getting along again.. I say make the next game in the time between the destruction of the relays/deactivated and them being activated again. Each section of the galaxy would be cut off from eachother within that time period and if it was long enough (like in an isolated part where rebuilding the relay wouldn't be a priority), they could develop their own culture out of the many races that were fighting there during the Reaper war.

I say make the driving conflict more about ideas and less about racial supremacy. Make it less clear cut and get rid of the red/blue karma meter to muddy things up a bit

[grey_wind]

I say make the next game about the struggles of the galaxy to remain united after the Reaper threat has been dealt with. There are so many endless possibilities:
Can Wrex actually keep the Krogan from becoming belligerent again?
Can Quarian-Geth peace be anything but a forced and reluctant partnership (and never have the chance to truly develop) when both sides are aware that there is a god AI out there ready to rain hellfire down on them the moment somebody steps a toe out of line?
What happens to the power balance of the galaxy after the Turians and Asari take such severe casualties, but the Salarians are left relatively untouched?

If they wanted something that could tie all this together, it could be a Yahg uprising or a Council civil war. But there's so much potential for a good story in a post-Reaper galaxy. The sad thing is it'll probably never happen because it will require setting a canon for ME1-3, and apparently fans demand that choices should matter when BioWare has already shown they don't.

[Ironhandjustice]

The first point is "no reapers". Control: Shep dissapeared. Synthesys: same.

Second point. Geth must be alive or rebuilt (Hello, Xen),


Why? because if did, you can make a "standard".

Third: you can do anything afterwards. Try hiring Dryan K. again.

[chefcook90]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

The first point is "no reapers". Control: Shep dissapeared. Synthesys: same.

Second point. Geth must be alive or rebuilt (Hello, Xen),


Why? because if did, you can make a "standard".

Third: you can do anything afterwards. Try hiring Dryan K. again.

I agree - having an invincible armada of reaper peacekeepers around would probably prevent any major conflicts from breaking out. So unless ME4 is solely all about rebuilding the post-reaper war galaxy and/or fighting enemies that are be beneath the reaper's attention (or fighting the reapers themselves) , the reapers have to go.

Unless shepard's idea of "protecting the many" means being utterly neutral and not interferring with the lesser races.

Modifié par chefcook90, 13 novembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[Restrider]

Post-war scenario. Limited resources. Power vacuum. Old and new animosities arising (Krogan vs Turian/Salarian; Salarian Civil-War; Allied forces against Asari; remnants of Cerberus maurading)...

[dorktainian]

how about good vs evil......?

or is that too simple?

[Heimdall]

I still think far far far far future where the galaxy is similar at all endings, differences in codex, some details, and exposition providing the majority of the difference.

I'd rather they drop the ancient space horror schtick and try to come up with an original threat spawned from current species. I have a vague fantasy of ME4 featuring a more espionage-conspiracy base than its predecessors.

[DirtySHISN0]

INB4 civil war as a result of the crucible decision and Leviathan subplot as the new series enemy.

[jstme]

A cyborg spacer tries to make a living in Terminus system post - ME deadly chaos.
Reapers are no more , but our unsuspecting hero suddenly and against his/hers/its will is drawn into an adventure during which he (or she or it) suddenly discovers that the chaos is orchestrated by hidden forces with dark sinister cause - to take complete control over every individual in terminus systems.
And then take over the galaxy itself.
In the end our hero meets the villains - Pinkius and Brainus., befriends them and together they proceed to slaughter innocents all over the galaxy.
What? It is beautiful bittersweet twist, worthy successor of ME3.

[dorktainian]

enter the real bad guys now reapers are gone  - with well developed backstory written by someone that knows his gravy.

Modifié par dorktainian, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:52 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Some Batarian just stole my newly bought Red Sand.

[KingZayd]

Synthesis/Control: future Garrus, time-travelling under disguise as Marauder Shields to prevent Shepard from making his choice.



But in all seriousness:
Salarians vs Krogan
Krogan vs Rachni
Geth vs Quarians (some factions anyway).. it'd be the third conflict too, not the second.
Hanar vs Drell (far enough in future)

Modifié par KingZayd, 13 novembre 2012 - 01:00 .

[Anacronian Stryx]

I would like an internal conflict instead of something external like the reapers, What about war between the terminus system and the council races, It was always hinted at in the games and since the council races have taken a beating from the reapers they aren't all the military power they used to be.

The terminus systems is supposed to be filled with warlords with their own private armies, So they could ban together under one strong leader and seizing the opportunity of the current weakness of the council races and make a push.

[VirtualSoldier27]

Krogan Civil War,with Wrex trying to stop Wreave from taking out revenge against the Salarains and Turians and ruining everything for the Krogan

[KingZayd]

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...

Krogan Civil War,with Wrex trying to stop Wreave from taking out revenge against the Salarains and Turians and ruining everything for the Krogan

Doesn't at least one of them die?

[VirtualSoldier27]

KingZayd wrote...

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...

Krogan Civil War,with Wrex trying to stop Wreave from taking out revenge against the Salarains and Turians and ruining everything for the Krogan

Doesn't at least one of them die?

yeah,the thresher mawl falls on Wreaves truck,and Wrex just says "No Way He Survived That", but his death is never confirmed

we thought Grunt was killed by the Ravagers also!!!!!

[KingZayd]

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...

Krogan Civil War,with Wrex trying to stop Wreave from taking out revenge against the Salarains and Turians and ruining everything for the Krogan

Doesn't at least one of them die?

yeah,the thresher mawl falls on Wreaves truck,and Wrex just says "No Way He Survived That", but his death is never confirmed

we thought Grunt was killed by the Ravagers also!!!!!

Wreav, God Emperor of Dune Tuchanka

Modifié par KingZayd, 13 novembre 2012 - 03:40 .

[VirtualSoldier27]

KingZayd wrote...

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...

Krogan Civil War,with Wrex trying to stop Wreave from taking out revenge against the Salarains and Turians and ruining everything for the Krogan

Doesn't at least one of them die?

yeah,the thresher mawl falls on Wreaves truck,and Wrex just says "No Way He Survived That", but his death is never confirmed

we thought Grunt was killed by the Ravagers also!!!!!

Wreav, God Emperor of Dune Tuchanka

if Wreave is dead, there are still plenty of other voices inside the Krogan clans that call for revenge, and thats plenty enough to trigger a 2nd krogan rebellion,and a krogan civil war

I am sure people wouldnt mind playing has Wrex

[Reth Shepherd]

The Reaper War, the real thing. With indoctrinated Shepard as the human face of the enemy. You start out choosing one of Shepard's old squadmates as your player character, and the game throws you right into the action with the Fall of Earth and you desperately trying to keep a unit together during the retreat. The climax of the introduction is when Shepard reappears from the beam...and things go to h*ll from there. Particularly when you realize that a squad of Reaper enemies as accompanying Shep. Cortez or Joker manages to yank your butt out of there, just in the nick of time; and now you're one of the remaining heroes of the war in the bad situation of trying to win a desperate war, now with 100% less Shepard on your side. Good luck! Things get even more interesting on the drama front if the character you picked was your Shep's LI in your previous playthroughs.

Possible suicide-mission sidegame throughout the main game, as there've been losses in your race's leadership, and YOU are expected to help choose which systems to deploy units to, which ones to retreat from, and whether to try retaking a world.

[KingZayd]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

The Reaper War, the real thing. With indoctrinated Shepard as the human face of the enemy. You start out choosing one of Shepard's old squadmates as your player character, and the game throws you right into the action with the Fall of Earth and you desperately trying to keep a unit together during the retreat. The climax of the introduction is when Shepard reappears from the beam...and things go to h*ll from there. Particularly when you realize that a squad of Reaper enemies as accompanying Shep. Cortez or Joker manages to yank your butt out of there, just in the nick of time; and now you're one of the remaining heroes of the war in the bad situation of trying to win a desperate war, now with 100% less Shepard on your side. Good luck! Things get even more interesting on the drama front if the character you picked was your Shep's LI in your previous playthroughs.

Possible suicide-mission sidegame throughout the main game, as there've been losses in your race's leadership, and YOU are expected to help choose which systems to deploy units to, which ones to retreat from, and whether to try retaking a world.

I would be happy with this. If it took a long time like all the other important struggles in the galaxy (rachni wars  took 300 years, krogan rebellion took decades for example. The relay 314 "incident" (or first contact war), lasted 3 months. Surely  a galactic war against the Reapers should take far longer for us to win than 3 months?), then we could play as an Asari or Krogan in the next game(s), in the next part of the war.


Unless they were to use indoctrination or something like that to make the endings have similar results, I have no idea how they'd do a sequel. If I'm not careful, I'm going to end up convincing myself that IT is true again.

Modifié par KingZayd, 13 novembre 2012 - 04:22 .