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[FaWa]

 We need an answer Bioware

I have been asking for an answer for quite a while. This will be very simple. It is a yes or no question. 

Here is the Question:

Will Female Dwarves be included in Dragon Age 3: Inquisition? Yes or no

[David Gaider]

FaWa wrote...
Is that an excuse for completely removing them from the game? Keep in mind some of the most fun DAO characters were Fem Dwarves (Branka, Hespith, Sigrun) and they were also A PLAYABLE GROUP. So I don't think thats any excuse for them to just not exist.

The "excuse" was that we needed to do new models for them-- it's not a matter of them having some "right" to exist, but whether we actually had a need for those models... and we didn't. Doing those models would have meant not having models for something else which would have been missed a lot more. Yes, it would have been nice to have had time to make more content of all kinds, but we did not.

But that was DA2. This is DA3. Assuming we have a need for female dwarves in the game, then they'll be there. If not, then they won't. I don't see anyone needing an answer to that just yet.

Modifié par David Gaider, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:09 .

[David Gaider]

Maclimes wrote...
Also, I'm amused that your answer was, basically, "If female dwarves are in the game, then female dwarves will be in the game. If female dwarves are not in the game, they will not be in the game". Well played.

Well apparently this answer was needed right now.

I will respond to such dire circumstances whenever I am able.

[David Gaider]

randomcheeses wrote...
So you're cutting out an entire gender of a race from the game based on costs. Why don't you cut the dwarven men out? Or would that be offensive to you in a way that keeping dwarven women unseen and almost unspoken about wouldn't be?

We didn't "cut" dwarven females in DA2. They'd only be cut if those models already existed, and they did not.

Originally we had planned to use them, but later in development when it turned out that we needed to trim from our list we took a look at the models we'd actually used in the plots-- and we'd barely used dwarven females anywhere, so they were low-hanging fruit. We dropped plans for other models which stung a lot more, let me tell you.

If you want to look on this as a sexism issue, as in female dwarves should automatically be in the game out of some kind of gender equality issue, that's up to you. To us, it was a resources issue and was based on how much we were actually going to use the models in question... and, since we were nowhere near dwarven settlements like Orzammar, the point of having any dwarves was questionable. Indeed, we probably only ended up having male dwarf models at all because of Varric and Bartrand.

If you choose to look on this as me saying we won't have female dwarves in DA3 either, then be my guest. We'll make the models we need for the story, and we're not going to discuss what that story is yet. So fall on the side of pessimism if that's what makes you happy.

[David Gaider]

Ria wrote...
This is the harsh, simple truth. No need to beat around the bush.

Sure, it's about resources but whenever something needs to be cut, it's easier to cut from (assumed) minorities than from your traditional target group. Bioware has done some admirable work showing support to different sexualities and creating great female characters but, in the end, they too continue to be plagued by innate sexism of game industry.

Honestly, cutting certain female models (who are not stereotypically sexy) from the budget is such a stupid move. Perhaps some day this industry realizes that young white male gamers alone are not going to provide the required improvement to their balance sheets in the long run.

So, yeah. Not being in Orzammar or any other dwarven settlement has nothing to do with it. We just didn't make female dwarves because we're innately sexist and think they're ugly.

Sigh.

The argument itself is fine, and there's certainly a lot of reasons to keep an eye out for sexism-- even from BioWare. To use it in this case, because we didn't need female dwarves for the DA2 story and you happen to like them, is stretching it a bit thin. Why not just say "I liked female dwarves in DAO and would like to see then in a game again". Would that be so terrible?

Modifié par David Gaider, 13 novembre 2012 - 09:10 .

[David Gaider]

Ria wrote...
But that presumption includes the idea of males as the default sex. Women are an afterthought. Doesn't that bother you even a bit? Frankly, excluding males and including only females doesn't really strike me as a better solution. In this case they should have found something else to cut. Having a fully developed population is an important aspect of a fantasy universe. This is something that should be maintained.

We had time to make one model. If we'd said "let's make female dwarves instead of male dwarves" we could indeed have done that... meaning Bartrand would have needed to be female, we couldn't have had Sandal or Bodahn and all dwarven merchants or carta members you met would be female. That seems stranger, to me.

Or we could have kept female dwarves, even though we weren't planning on using them for more than some random characters at the time... and cut something we used far more prevalently. If someone wants to hold the position, however, that everything from DAO should have already existed in DA2 automatically... that we shouldn't have needed to do any work whatsoever, that the sheer rightness of it existing should have >poof!< made new models appear and that we had to physically remove them in order to not have them in the game... well, that's awesome. And probably why fans are not the people who get to make these decisions as it has no bearing on reality.

Again, it would have been nice to have more models. But recognizing that we had to make such tough decisions and actually giving us credit for having more reason behind not making a specific model besides sexism seem to be two different things.


AND... ONCE MORE... THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DA3.

If someone wants to whine about there not being enough character/creature models in DA2, please take it to the DA2 forum. As for DA3, we'll make whatever models we need. We're not talking about what that will be, yet. And that's the final answer on the subject, jeez.

Modifié par David Gaider, 13 novembre 2012 - 11:01 .