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[wetnasty]

Is it just me or does that whole scene remind me just a tad bit of Measure for Measure?

[brushyourteeth]

wetnasty wrote...

Is it just me or does that whole scene remind me just a tad bit of Measure for Measure?

For some reason, I totally read your name as being "wetntasty"  

You know, like McDonald's decided to make a french dip sandwich or something. 

[Todd23]

I agree that we should have more story for him. I always enjoy getting to know my villain.

[LolaLei]

brushyourteeth wrote...

wetnasty wrote...

Is it just me or does that whole scene remind me just a tad bit of Measure for Measure?

For some reason, I totally read your name as being "wetntasty"  

You know, like McDonald's decided to make a french dip sandwich or something. 

LOL! Well that wasn't what crossed my mind when I saw that! 

[SilentK]

Ohh... this would be a very very interesting romance =) would be a happy surprise if it did happen in the game. Time will tell, keeping my fingers crossed anyhow.

[Melca36]

I like Cullen but I really hope if hes a character in DA3 that he acknowledges the abuses the went on with the Kirkwall Chantry.

[HarbingerKismet]

I definitely back Cullen as a companion for DA3, and double that as a romance option. Doooooo iiiiiiiit.

[Battlebloodmage]

I'm expecting another s- storm of people bashing poor Cullen. If people want to bash Cullen, bash Edward Cullen, not Templar Cullen.

[MisanthropePrime]

Am I the only one who just doesn't, at all, get Cullen's appeal? He's one step up from a bland character: Milquetoast, at best. It's baffling enough he appeared in two games.

[BouncyFrag]

Does not knowing who Cullen is make me a bad person? I had to look that guy up on the wiki. I'm not sure what the fuss is about him

[snackrat]

Why do people keep pairing Cullen with mages...? He liked mage!Warden. For being mage!Warden, not because they had sparkle-fingers. He wasn't blushing around everything with a robe. Are people seriously saying 'well we don't KNOW that we'll headcanon he has a thing for people vulnerable to demonic possession, so forbidden!' or something? Why just 'mage'? And we're not playing as Warden (especially since Warden is supposed to be either dead or disappeared) - so that cuts out that option. Seriously, why mage-specific?

In fact, if anything, his breakdown in DAO shows that mages are exactly the kind of people he WON'T be interested in. They toned back the madness for DAII (though regardless of which side you chose in DAO, he did go mad) but maybe some homage to that could still be there. WHO KNOWS what Bioware is doing man, WHO KNOWS

[karushna5]

You guys might want to know, the devs on sprint review day implied very heavily that Cullen is sitting on the fence with the Mage Templar debate.

This isn't exact but one person said they weren't picking a side they are too pretty and another said they should wait for the other teams to finish each other off, then move in

A dev said that was very cullen of them and to pick a side

[SgtElias]

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Am I the only one who just doesn't, at all, get Cullen's appeal? He's one step up from a bland character: Milquetoast, at best. It's baffling enough he appeared in two games.

Nope.

I don't mind him, personally. I mean, I'm not his biggest fan, but I think it'll be interesting to see how/if he shows up in Inquisition.

But no, you aren't the only one.

[Lotion Soronarr]

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.
And all those championing "choices" and "player freedom" (in case you missed it, those were air quotes)
You don't want player choice and freedom. You want the game kissing your ass. You want the "freedom" of the world bending over to your whims.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

[Battlebloodmage]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.
And all those championing "choices" and "player freedom" (in case you missed it, those were air quotes)
You don't want player choice and freedom. You want the game kissing your ass. You want the "freedom" of the world bending over to your whims.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

Yup, bring up 4 months old off-topic argument, why don't ya?

[Lotion Soronarr]

RinjiRenee wrote...

AndersIsLush wrote...

He was ONLY interested in a FEMALE mage in DAO. So why change it so that he's interested in both sexes?

Inb4 "omgz bisexuality all the way" I am not against male/male pairings. I just don't like it when they change characters just to please people.

Why should you even care?

It's not like Cullen would suddenly stop liking women, too.  Just because a person hits on the opposite sex, that does not deem them exclusively heterosexual.  Anyway,  what would you stand to lose if he were made available for both sexes?   (I'll give you a hint: absolutely nothing.)

I will be agaisnt it. Why?

Well, if I demanded that everything organic with a hole in the game is romancable (or at leat fuc******) would you support my demand? After all, if you don't aren't you taking away my choice?
You wouldn't, would you?


Ironicly, it never is about choice. Because that is not choice. That is demanding a character change and a desired RESULT (he/she WILL return my advancment) rather than actual character choice (expressing interest).

Choice is giving the character the option to try or do something. NOT to succeed.

[Battlebloodmage]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

AndersIsLush wrote...

He was ONLY interested in a FEMALE mage in DAO. So why change it so that he's interested in both sexes?

Inb4 "omgz bisexuality all the way" I am not against male/male pairings. I just don't like it when they change characters just to please people.

Why should you even care?

It's not like Cullen would suddenly stop liking women, too.  Just because a person hits on the opposite sex, that does not deem them exclusively heterosexual.  Anyway,  what would you stand to lose if he were made available for both sexes?   (I'll give you a hint: absolutely nothing.)

I will be agaisnt it. Why?

Well, if I demanded that everything organic with a hole in the game is romancable (or at leat fuc******) would you support my demand? After all, if you don't aren't you taking away my choice?
You wouldn't, would you?


Ironicly, it never is about choice. Because that is not choice. That is demanding a character change and a desired RESULT (he/she WILL return my advancment) rather than actual character choice (expressing interest).

Choice is giving the character the option to try or do something. NOT to succeed.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/16253675

[Dirgegun]

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Am I the only one who just doesn't, at all, get Cullen's appeal? He's one step up from a bland character: Milquetoast, at best. It's baffling enough he appeared in two games.

You might see Cullen as bland. Other people don't. Other people are interested in his story. Other people might not understand why you like a character that they, themselves, find boring, bland, or unlikeable. It comes down to personal opinion and the fact that everyone has differnt qualities they fine appealing. 

Personally, I don't understand why people even have to ask the question 'why do you like this character?' It's obvious it comes down to personal opinions and likes. 

Edit: awkward moment when I see this thread in someone's reply list, but don't realise it's... sorta.... done with...

Ah well. 

As for him being bi? It could happen and I wouldn't rave over it being out of character or feeling 'off' for his character. He happened to like a female mage. That doesn't mean he can't like guys. It just means he didn't like the dudes we played in Origins. Your sexuality doesn't mean you like EVERYONE of the gender you find attractive. If you're a gay male you don't find ALL other males attractive. If you're a gay female you don't find ALL other females attractive. Same goes for if you're straight. You don't find EVERYONE of the opposite gender attractive. 

Modifié par Dirgegun, 13 mars 2013 - 10:48 .

[Plaintiff]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.
And all those championing "choices" and "player freedom" (in case you missed it, those were air quotes)
You don't want player choice and freedom. You want the game kissing your ass. You want the "freedom" of the world bending over to your whims.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

"It's okay for Bioware to do what I want, but not what you want! If Bioware does what you want, then they're pathetic, fan-pandering sycophants. If they do what I want, then that's just good writing."

[Lotion Soronarr]

Plaintiff wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.
And all those championing "choices" and "player freedom" (in case you missed it, those were air quotes)
You don't want player choice and freedom. You want the game kissing your ass. You want the "freedom" of the world bending over to your whims.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

"It's okay for Bioware to do what I want, but not what you want! If Bioware does what you want, then they're pathetic, fan-pandering sycophants. If they do what I want, then that's just good writing."

Wow....mis-translating someones sentances...When's the last tiem I've seen that?
That's the intelectual equalent of sticking out ones tounge and going "waaah".

No, you twit. What I want is for the player to respond to the game world, and not to design the gameworld to pander to the whims of every Tom, Dick and Harry taht thorws a tantrum when tehy cna't romance cahracter X.
The whole romances buisness is getting preposterous.
Who sez that every character has to be romancable or acknowledge/return your love?

[Plaintiff]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.
And all those championing "choices" and "player freedom" (in case you missed it, those were air quotes)
You don't want player choice and freedom. You want the game kissing your ass. You want the "freedom" of the world bending over to your whims.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

"It's okay for Bioware to do what I want, but not what you want! If Bioware does what you want, then they're pathetic, fan-pandering sycophants. If they do what I want, then that's just good writing."

Wow....mis-translating someones sentances...When's the last tiem I've seen that?
That's the intelectual equalent of sticking out ones tounge and going "waaah".

No, you twit. What I want is for the player to respond to the game world, and not to design the gameworld to pander to the whims of every Tom, Dick and Harry taht thorws a tantrum when tehy cna't romance cahracter X.
The whole romances buisness is getting preposterous.
Who sez that every character has to be romancable or acknowledge/return your love?

I mistranslated nothing. You just don't like me reducing your posts down to the core sentiment being expressed.

You said it would be bad for Bioware to make the romances "all-bi", because that would just be "kissing the ass" of the people who like the romances that way. In fact, you complain that Bioware is already pandering to every "Tom Dick and Harry". The notion that Bioware might genuinely be choosing to be inclusive of their own volition is not even acknnowledged as a possibility.

Meanwhile, if Bioware does what you want, that's not pandering at all, for some reason.

Nobody said every character has to be romanceable, and in fact that is not the case in the Dragon Age games, and will likely never be the case. You're just straw-manning again. Not that I'm surprised.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 13 mars 2013 - 04:40 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

It's a known fact that you can't be drinking buddies with someone who's bi. Bi people also can't smite worth a damn. Tragic, really!

[Reaverwind]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If Bioware turns everyone BI then frak you Bioware. And EA.
And all those championing "choices" and "player freedom" (in case you missed it, those were air quotes)
You don't want player choice and freedom. You want the game kissing your ass. You want the "freedom" of the world bending over to your whims.

No romance for Cullen.
But I wouldn't say no to a bromance. I need a good drinking buddy and someone to smite mages with.

The "bi" romances should be referred to as "generic", because that's precisely what they are - bland, and very unconvincing. I couldn't stand them in DA2. I'd much rather Bioware stick to hetero-/******- sexual characters and put some believeability and depth into them, then taking shortcuts with their absurd one-size fits-all approach which ends up shattering immersion.

[Plaintiff]

Bisexual people can't be "deep" or "believable" either, apparently. In order to develop the superpower of finding both genders attractive, you have to sacrifice your individuality to the dark gods that slumber beneath the Earth.

That's why Anders and Fenris have the exact same personality and opinions.

And Zevran and Leliana too. Might as well just be two heads on one body.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 13 mars 2013 - 04:46 .