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[Blissey1]

Hardcoresalmon wrote...

The tempest has more dps, more ammo and is an uncommon.

ok seriously, ima slap the next person who claims a weapon isn't good becasue the tempest has more dps.

There's a lot more to weapons than just dps!

Modifié par Blissey1, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:27 .

[Uchimura]

Be sure to fight off any and all potential buffs. They're the worst thing to happen ever, especially for an ultra rare.

Modifié par Uchimura, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:28 .

[Chevyboy88]

Claiming a weapon is good because you score 150k~ in a 30+ minute game? If you were using a weapon that was actually good (see not a middle of the pack weapon that is the CSMG) the game would have been significantly shorter.

I could find a game with bad pugs and use nothing but an Avenger on gold and finish with 200k as well, it doesn't make it a good gun.

[mrcanada]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Infiltrator makes nearly every weapon quite good. Outside of that class, it's relatively meh unless you have it at VII-X. Low levels it's borderline pointless.

No. Try it on the Drellguard with incendiary spec for all weapon damage in his passives and everything dies fast. I usually don't even use clusters that often in a routine Gold match so I use SMG amps. Fire explosions abound and it's fun as heck when the game gets stale.

Better off with the Acolyte.

[Kalas Magnus]

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

 32 min.

Bad time.

The gun is bad. It needs a buff.

edit: Saw you used an infiltrator. I know you said no powers but did you use cloak? Vause Ladynemesis used cloak and sabotage in her all sabotage run. I just wanted to make sure.

32 mins is a bad time yes, but one friend was drunk and the rest of us were half asleep lol. the game was at like 2AM my time after playing AC# for like 6 hours. anyway yes i used cloack but its what an 80% damage boost for 1.5-2 seconds? not a major difference. most of the time i was using cloack to revive people and get into a safe spot and waiting for the ammo to regen

More than enough. 2.5 sec is a lot. It makes any gun look good...

/thread

[upinya slayin]

Shezo wrote...

Let me guess, AP ammo IV and SMG amp 3 ?
Even if not, the playtime is 30 mins, meaning you had to either solo some waves or close to it. Plus, you had kinda bad players with you, again, more score for you.
Hence, the total score.

So if i had to solo waves and i did it with nothig but this gun, wouldn't that just further prove its awesome? anyway i was pretty dam tired. I nkow i had to due waves a few times. i might have solo'd 1 too i don't really remeber lol anyway teh gun gets the job done

[Boceto]

The gun is decent but by far not worth of being UR. As BW won't change the rarity of it they need to buff it.

[InstaShark]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Klokos wrote...

no, no, no you're wrong. The only good weapons ever is the Harrier, you should never ever use any other weapons.

Too heavy at I for casters.

ULM says no.

I was talking about the Harrier, which is what the first quote was talking about. 

[megabeast37215]

CSMG is more accurate than the Tempest at range, and then there's the armor modifier.

I wonder what their DPS vs Armor is compared to one another....

[vivanto]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Klokos wrote...
no, no, no you're wrong. The only good weapons ever is the Harrier, you should never ever use any other weapons.

Too heavy at I for casters.

ULM says no.

I may have failed reading comprehension, but chances are he was referring to the Harrier. Edit: ninja'd 

Modifié par vivanto, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:32 .

[Brakensiek]

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[upinya slayin]

the_sfonda_culo wrote...

That gun is bad, it's useless on armors. Needs a buff

it gets a 1.5 damage modifyer to armor. not to mention the SMG AP mod gives you 90% ignoring the armor so it only loses 10% damage against armor but does 50% more damage to armor.

2 clips i was taking down scions with it in another game. no gun that weighs that little will take down a scion in 2 clips

[Ultimas Dragon]

I'm sorry not trying to be a jerk or what have you, but honestly it looks like from the picture, you pretty much carried that team. this is based off of the fact the bottom person has 1 medal and 40ish K points and the fact it took 30+ minuted to complete. any gun could look this good.

[Chevyboy88]

upinya slayin wrote...

the_sfonda_culo wrote...

That gun is bad, it's useless on armors. Needs a buff

it gets a 1.5 damage modifyer to armor. not to mention the SMG AP mod gives you 90% ignoring the armor so it only loses 10% damage against armor but does 50% more damage to armor.

2 clips i was taking down scions with it in another game. no gun that weighs that little will take down a scion in 2 clips

Once again with every consumable availiable, pretty much any gun will take down a Scion in 2 clips. Don't even consider saying you had anything short of full consumables or else we'll know you are lying since the math just doesn't add up or that you were playing on bronze.

[megawug]

So it's better than the Hurricane??? That's hard to believe!

[BlackDahlia424]

I'll just go with what was said in the thread - you used an Infiltrator - it doesn't count with 80% damage boosts. It would make an avenger look salvageable. I've used the CSMG enough times to get the 140,000 points twice and it is simply outdone by weapons of lesser rarity. I don't plan on ever using it again unless it gets a hefty buff.

I honestly like both the Eagle and Locust way better.

[WMcAlister]

My Justicar loves it. The delay and casting time of Reave works out to be almost equal wit hthe ammo use/regen of the SMG, so it's a pretty much nonstop flow of damage without those pesky reloads to break your rhythm.

It's a good gun. I've come to prefer it over my Hurricane (blasphemy, yeah yeah). The Cane obviously does better damage, but I can't hit spit with it without getting fairly close. The CSMG doesn't hit as hard, but you can damn near snipe with it.

[Linkinator]

when you have more than 5 other badass guns to choose from its a piece of crap and will always be a piece of crap

[STRANGE10VE]

megawug wrote...

So it's better than the Hurricane??? That's hard to believe!

It's not better than the hurricane but it is really good at higher levels.  It is the second best smg by a mile.

[MagicThoughts]

My only beef with it the low ammo. it is fairy annoying when you're in the face of a marauder and you shoot him and miss couple of shots only to get hit by his amazing thingy and die.

[InstaShark]

STRANGE10VE wrote...

megawug wrote...

So it's better than the Hurricane??? That's hard to believe!

It's not better than the hurricane but it is really good at higher levels.  It is the second best smg by a mile.

Seems like everybody's totally forgotten about the Hornet

[Learn To Love Yourself]

The CSMG is super accurate and has virtually no recoil. You get headshots easily with that gun, moreso than any other SMG we currently have (it is even more accurate than the Locust).

Not only this, but it also has the armor damage multiplier and applies ammo effects superbly.

But by all means, buff it all you want. I really wouldn't mind more ammo or more damage. I personally feel it is great as is.

[WMcAlister]

Linkinator wrote...

when you have more than 5 other badass guns to choose from its a piece of crap and will always be a piece of crap

...by that logic, the 1 most badass of those 5 makes the other 4 crap, too. 

[NuclearTech76]

mrcanada wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Infiltrator makes nearly every weapon quite good. Outside of that class, it's relatively meh unless you have it at VII-X. Low levels it's borderline pointless.

No. Try it on the Drellguard with incendiary spec for all weapon damage in his passives and everything dies fast. I usually don't even use clusters that often in a routine Gold match so I use SMG amps. Fire explosions abound and it's fun as heck when the game gets stale.

Better off with the Acolyte.

I carry it as backup for phantoms. Acolyte is a great weapon as well and primes thing really good for FE but trying to take down an atlas with it is just tiresome.

All the passive weapon damage and headshot damage helps boost the DPS because the Collector SMG is very accurate at landing headshots

Modifié par NuclearTech76, 13 novembre 2012 - 06:50 .