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[KBomb]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

She does not help him.

She gives Shepard no more information about Mordin or Archangel than Shepard gets from talking to other people.

EDI was the one who gave information on where to find Mordin and how to get to Archangel.

The wounded Bartarian and the mercs give more information about Mordin and Archangel than she does.

Shepard goes out of their way to protect her and all she gives in return is a location of a cache out in the galaxy that may or may not still be there...and when you do get there...it's guarded by three heavy mechs.

Did you even bother to read my post where I stated you didn't have to go see Aria about Garrus or Mordin? However, while you know this, you still know how the events play out if you visit Aria, which means you still chose to go see her anyway. You go visit her even if you don't have to, then complain that she doesn't help you enough? You have issues.

@SeptimusMagistos

It's clear you view your Shepard with a God-like complex. Why you think it's even close to fitting with Aria's character to apologize for her previous rudeness is beyond my understanding and at this point, beyond my caring. Jack killed innocents and admits the horrible crimes she commited--yet just because you have a chance to "get her to back down", she's okay. Your logic is .....egotisical and no offence, a bit twisted. Still, you've been polite and it was nice debating with you. I think we've reached a stalemate on this and no further discussion is going to be productive.

[CDR David Shepard]

KBomb wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

She does not help him.

She gives Shepard no more information about Mordin or Archangel than Shepard gets from talking to other people.

EDI was the one who gave information on where to find Mordin and how to get to Archangel.

The wounded Bartarian and the mercs give more information about Mordin and Archangel than she does.

Shepard goes out of their way to protect her and all she gives in return is a location of a cache out in the galaxy that may or may not still be there...and when you do get there...it's guarded by three heavy mechs.

Did you even bother to read my post where I stated you didn't have to go see Aria about Garrus or Mordin? However, while you know this, you still know how the events play out if you visit Aria, which means you still chose to go see her anyway. You go visit her even if you don't have to, then complain that she doesn't help you enough? You have issues.

I'm not complaining...I'm pointing out facts.

You're right...and I shouldn't have said "she does not help him"...since she does give the information.

People used those points listed to say that she does in fact respect Shepard...and I don't believe that to be true...and pointed out why.

I'm not complaining about her not giving enough information...I'm simply stating that she has done Shepard no more good than a wounded bartarian or mercs will do.

My point is that...in my opinion...they have given no reason for us to continue to respect Aria enough to help her in ME3.



I believe that the only reason we even have this DLC is because players wanted it in hopes of being able to romance her.

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 15 novembre 2012 - 07:04 .

[KBomb]

CDR David Shepard wrote...


I'm not complaining...I'm pointing out facts.

My point is that they have given no reason for us to continue to respect Aria enough to help her in ME3.

People used those points listed to say that she does in fact respect Shepard...and I don't believe that to be true...and pointed out why.

I'm not complaining about her not giving enough information...I'm simply stating that she has done Shepard no more good than a wounded bartarian or mercs will do.


In my opinion...the only reason we even have this DLC is because players wanted it in hopes of being able to romance her.

Your missing the point completely. It isn't that she gave him information. It's that she gave him information so willingly. We aren't talking about EDI, who works for Shepard, or mercs who may be a little in awe of him, or a dying batarian. The information is secondary to the fact that she gives it to Shepard at all. We're talking about Aria as a character. She has no obligation to him. He has never did anything for her or Omega. Why should she help him without something in return? Yet, she does and continues to do so.

In talking about her respect, you also seemed to skip over the other examples that have been presented by myself and others. You don't like her because she didn't rush to trust Shepard and in your view, her 'disrepect'. Question: After she finds out your intentions on Omega and that you aren't there to cause her trouble--how is she disrepectful to Shep?

[CDR David Shepard]

KBomb wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...


I'm not complaining...I'm pointing out facts.

My point is that they have given no reason for us to continue to respect Aria enough to help her in ME3.

People used those points listed to say that she does in fact respect Shepard...and I don't believe that to be true...and pointed out why.

I'm not complaining about her not giving enough information...I'm simply stating that she has done Shepard no more good than a wounded bartarian or mercs will do.


In my opinion...the only reason we even have this DLC is because players wanted it in hopes of being able to romance her.

Your missing the point completely. It isn't that she gave him information. It's that she gave him information so willingly. We aren't talking about EDI, who works for Shepard, or mercs who may be a little in awe of him, or a dying batarian. The information is secondary to the fact that she gives it to Shepard at all. We're talking about Aria as a character. She has no obligation to him. He has never did anything for her or Omega. Why should she help him without something in return? Yet, she does and continues to do so.

In talking about her respect, you also seemed to skip over the other examples that have been presented by myself and others. You don't like her because she didn't rush to trust Shepard and in your view, her 'disrepect'. Question: After she finds out your intentions on Omega and that you aren't there to cause her trouble--how is she disrepectful to Shep?

The eclipse leader and blood pack leader were not in awe of Shepard...that had no idea who he was.
Anyways...I get your points.

However, I still believe she hasn't done enough to warrant us dropping our mission to help make her "Queen" of Omega again.

[Legendairy111]

I dig her. Wish she was a possible love interest.

[CDR David Shepard]

Now of course...the devs can write it in so that there is something on Omega that we need to stop the Reapers...giving us a reason beyond helping a criminal warlord retake their territory.

However, until we know for sure...I don't see any reason Shepard would help Aria...besides wanting to get in her pants.

[KBomb]

CDR David Shepard wrote...


The eclipse leader and blood pack leader were not in awe of Shepard...that had no idea who he was.
Anyways...I get your points.

However, I still believe she hasn't done enough to warrant us dropping our mission to help make her "Queen" of Omega again.

Oh, on this we agree. I'll be skipping on this DLC. Seems a bit too pricy for a dlc that seems to have no replay value at all and considering she is just going to end up being some numbers that isn't going to matter in the first place---it doesn't have my attention. I'll be saving my money for Dragonborn.

[SeptimusMagistos]

KBomb wrote...

It's clear you view your Shepard with a God-like complex.

Yes, and normally the game lets me indulge that.

KBomb wrote...
Why you think it's even close to fitting with Aria's character to apologize for her previous rudeness is beyond my understanding and at this point, beyond my caring.

It's not really Aria herself that I dislike, it's the lack of options in interacting with her. I'd like my Shepard to have a more negative response to the situation, at least on par with having to work with Cerberus.

KBomb wrote...
Jack killed innocents and admits the horrible crimes she commited--yet just because you have a chance to "get her to back down", she's okay.

It's a matter of character interaction more than anything else. Jack is mostly okay because I can see the chain of events that led to her current outlook - but I do like the fact that you can be opposed to Jack. You can be disdainful of the Illusive Man, you can show contempt towards the Council - it's nice to have options, even ones I don't typically take. With Aria there are no options - Shepard apparently likes her style and there is nothing I can do to stop him from liking it.

[General User]

Aria is a good asset for Shepard to have since she coordinates the merc forces she and Shepard put together, but she can do that just fine from the Citadel.

I'm not seeing what reason Shepard could possibly have for setting Aria back up on Omega though. Doing that would not seem to benefit anyone but Aria.

Bottomline: Aria is an asset, not an ally, and certainly not a friend. She needs to be managed, not catered to.

[wright1978]

I'll happily put down the vicious murderous dictator that is Aria if i get a chance.

[Dr. Akairos]

What, are you guys kidding? I love Aria! Gives me intel, rounds up mercs to fight for me. She imposes order on the lawlessness that is Omega.

Be real guys, could it happen any other way? She fights fire with fire.

That being said, I am not a beck and call kinda guy to my allies. But I'm sure the Omega DLC will benefit sheppard in some way. 

Modifié par Dr. Akairos, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:42 .

[LisuPL]

I hope for some love and hate relationship with her.

If you know what I mean.

Modifié par LisuPL, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:45 .

[Gulaman]

I think she's overrated. Doesn't deserve a DLC.

[ChrisDV]

I will buy the DLC.
And then I will break Omega's one rule.

And by that, I do NOT mean literally.

[ilego]

I like her make more single player DLC

[Linkenski]

We never got to know her properly in ME2. There wasn't too much interaction with her overall, and her "i am Omega" sounds cringeworthy, though appropriate imo.

[AxStapleton]

I don't think one way or the other about her. Nothing really remarkable in the character IMO.

[Spawnfreak73]

She's a ruthless crimeboss/warlord that acknowledges no power higher than herself. I like her just fine.

[Dominus]

Seems to be more Aria dislike around these parts, why is that?????

I like her, but not of the romantic persuasion. I prefer someone with a practical outlook, and that she is.

From the look of the last 7 pages, the overall outlook on Aria is polarized.

[AmillB]

I like Aria, and have been waiting for this since reading Invasion. However, I can see why others don't care for her or want to kill her. Not only is she a criminal, but an arrogant one. For me though, I kind of... like that. Don't really know why, but I do. And no, it's not strictly because of who voices her. I didn't even know who did her voice until after I finished the second game for the first time and decided to look it up. I just really like the character, and can only hope this DLC reveals even more things about her.

[DOGMA23]

The fact she doesn't even give Shepard an ounce of respect makes me dislike her, my renegade Shep was ready to go postal. I am definitely gonna show her who's boss on Omega.

[Sinekein]

Summary :

Is your Shepard a Paragon or a Renegade ?

PARAGON --> A
RENEGADE --> B

Do you like the "Don't **** with Aria" line ?

YES --> 1
NO --> 2

How you are gonna answer to this topic :

A1 : "Aria is a necessary evil, she is the less evil crime boss that Omega can have."
A2 : "Aria is a crime boss, and a good crime boss is a dead crime boss"
B1 : "Aria gave me intel for free, and let me slaughter some mercs on Omega, she is straight with me"
B2 : "Aria disrespected me, so I want to put a bullet in her head"

Modifié par Sinekein, 16 novembre 2012 - 12:40 .

[RustySam]

You people do realize that it's ok to like a fictional character eventhough he/she is a person of questionable morals?

Somehow it strikes me pretty one-sided to like characters simply based on their moral compass. Rather than saying "Aria sucks because she's a shallow character" you say "She's a cruel crime lord and treats people badly. My mommy says I shouldn't associate with that kind of people even if they're fictious."

Maybe there's some literature guru who could formulate that idea better... aynone?

[DirtySHISN0]

I didn't realise so many people disliked Aria.

I agree with RustySam, I thought you were allowed to like fictitious characters regardless of their ethics.