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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Codblops 2 will die in, at most, one year's time. If not sooner, cuz fans are giving it an average score of 5.9/10, and that's not good.


Please, the cycle must continue.

Aside from the "find the broken loadout in 1 month and then use it for a year," the "this CoD game sucks, last year's was better" cycle repeats itself every time.

I bolded the reason I hate all PvP games. This will invariably happen so I simply won't bother with PVP games.

 

I doubt you'd be any good at PVP games anyway.

But that's not true of all PVP.

Weird comment to make.
Still, when I've played them, I did pretty well. I'm just not a fan of it. 'm not a hugely compeditive person, and I don't like the way people tend to ruin PvP with optimal builds, finding ways to cheat, etc.

I'll grant you that the optimal build sinkhole doesn't always happen, but it happens often enough for me to be turned off from PvP in general.
The communities tend to be meh, too. :P

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Well I make it because PVP games are far less forgiving than a coop one like ME3. For the average/below average player, I doubt they'd be much fun. Because being dead all the time is (I imagine) not much fun.

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Well I left for Halo 4 but it's lonely out there. No one believes in using mics or working together. They all seem to think the game is only about kill/death ratio and nothing else. I am really good at objectives but everyone wants to play slayer. I would go back to ME3 sometimes but not many of my friends still play it.

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I'll probably get Halo 4 and Blops 2 at some point. But the gameplay is so different to ME3 I don't think I'm going to quit playing ME3 over them.

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Well, I'm back now..
Wasted $60 again..

The PC port was terrible, as it was to be expected...

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As long as I can get three other people in the game why should I care?

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Well I make it because PVP games are far less forgiving than a coop one like ME3. For the average/below average player, I doubt they'd be much fun. Because being dead all the time is (I imagine) not much fun.


Yeah, I agree PVP is less forgiving than MEMP, largely due to the human element being in the opponent(s).
MEMP is down right relaxing, for me really. It's also fun, too.

Being dead most of the time isn't something that happens often to me in a PvP game. I may not be the greatest, but I usually hold my own.

Still, it doesn't change the fact that people pretty much just end up ruining it one way or the other for me. In game, and in forums.
Heck, I don't even have CoD, and some absolute stranger sent a message to me just to tell me, unapologetically, that I sucked at CoD. lol

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Rebel_Raven wrote...



blog.bioware.com/2012/11/13/were-answering-the-call/


Oh... this is... This is just too awesome for words. I had heard about the whole disk issue earlier today and thought it was poetic justice by itself, but this just made my entire week.

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codename2o2 wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...



blog.bioware.com/2012/11/13/were-answering-the-call/


Oh... this is... This is just too awesome for words. I had heard about the whole disk issue earlier today and thought it was poetic justice by itself, but this just made my entire week.



Yeah. Lucky PC Master race! :P

I hope people take up Bioware on the offer, and appreciate the trilogy. Good on'em if they do.

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

Heck, I don't even have CoD, and some absolute stranger sent a message to me just to tell me, unapologetically, that I sucked at CoD. lol



You suck at CoD.

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Chromatix wrote...

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Medal of Honor Doorfighter.

I love you or whoever made this joke. 

MiracleOfSound, the singer from Escapist made a song about the Doorfighter game.

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SavagelyEpic wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Heck, I don't even have CoD, and some absolute stranger sent a message to me just to tell me, unapologetically, that I sucked at CoD. lol



You suck at CoD.

lol
True? False? The world will never know! :P

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I'd have been gone a few months ago if it weren't for the challenge system being implemented.

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I'll get Blops II later, since it actually looks pretty promising. But first I still need to get Assassin's Creed III.

Mass Effect 3 is in a pretty unpleasant place, one that Gears of War 3 occupied around this time last year; I say I'll return, but that depends on how the game evolves in the next months (new game-mode please).

Anyway, I've more or less made the move over to Halo 4. It's good to be home again.

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Rebel_Raven wrote...
Still, it doesn't change the fact that people pretty much just end up ruining it one way or the other for me. In game, and in forums.
Heck, I don't even have CoD, and some absolute stranger sent a message to me just to tell me, unapologetically, that I sucked at CoD. lol


You need to rethink this.  Coop and PvP are really not that different.  Some people hate PvP in the same way that some lower skilled people complain about the Collectors being too hard in ME3 MP.  It's no different from a silver player getting destroyed in his first platinum match.  PvP is like Coop where the enemies are Black Diamond level to the nth degree.  No AI will ever match a human player.  If BW came out with a new level that is 5x as hard as platinum, you might hate it too.

People ruining the game?  That happens in ALL multiplayer game (e.g. rocket glitch, map glitch, firing rate hacks).  It's all the same thing, viewed from a different angle.

For many long time ME3 MP players, the game is no longer challenging.  When I come into a game, I know if I keep shooting, moving, throwing powers, the enemies will eventually die and the game will be won.  It's not the same way with PvP.  I find PvP games tend to hold onto players a lot longer than coop games.  Look at Battlefield or Counterstrike vs L4D.  Once coop games are mastered, there are no more challenges.  Games are about adrenaline rush, and you need a challenge for that.

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I havent played COD in years, this will be the first game of the series Ive bought since MW 2!

Goin PC this time though, f*** consoles

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I'm still playing ME3 MP, though lately I've been in a GW2 kick. Can't help it.

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Never understood why people hate CoD...damn solid game.

Madden comes out every year and no one gets pissy about that.

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darkblade wrote...

Never understood why people hate CoD...damn solid game.

Madden comes out every year and no one gets pissy about that.


From what I understand, each CoD game is pretty much the same as the last, just with a different coat of paint.  At least with Madden, they're updating the rosters of the teams and their statistics.  A lot of mathematical crap.  Not that I care much for sport games myself...

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darkblade wrote...

Never understood why people hate CoD...damn solid game..


yup....damned solid game. THE SAME DAMN GAME EVERY YEAR......  $60 for the SAME DAMNED SOLID GAME!

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"CoD" got worse from Modern Warfare 2.
So I'm probably not even going to buy this one.

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Colonel Sheppard wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...
Still, it doesn't change the fact that people pretty much just end up ruining it one way or the other for me. In game, and in forums.
Heck, I don't even have CoD, and some absolute stranger sent a message to me just to tell me, unapologetically, that I sucked at CoD. lol


You need to rethink this.  Coop and PvP are really not that different.  Some people hate PvP in the same way that some lower skilled people complain about the Collectors being too hard in ME3 MP.  It's no different from a silver player getting destroyed in his first platinum match.  PvP is like Coop where the enemies are Black Diamond level to the nth degree.  No AI will ever match a human player.  If BW came out with a new level that is 5x as hard as platinum, you might hate it too.

People ruining the game?  That happens in ALL multiplayer game (e.g. rocket glitch, map glitch, firing rate hacks).  It's all the same thing, viewed from a different angle.

For many long time ME3 MP players, the game is no longer challenging.  When I come into a game, I know if I keep shooting, moving, throwing powers, the enemies will eventually die and the game will be won.  It's not the same way with PvP.  I find PvP games tend to hold onto players a lot longer than coop games.  Look at Battlefield or Counterstrike vs L4D.  Once coop games are mastered, there are no more challenges.  Games are about adrenaline rush, and you need a challenge for that.

Rethink what? o.O
It's not the difficulty that turns me off from PvP. It's the -people- themselves. The communities tend to be the factor that turns me off of PvP. Broken, or near broken builds become alarmingly common, variety gets crushed, fun gets crushed, forums see a bit too many "NERF (insert something they have problems dealing with but don't look at the big picture)" and are generally more hostile/negative. My problems with PvP is rooted squarely with the people themselves, not the difficulties, or challenges of the game.

Yes, nerf cries happen here, but it's far less often.

At least the people ruining the game for MEMP with missile glitches, landscape glitches, and stuff are working -with- me, and not trying to get their rocks off at my, or anyone else's expense with them. I don't condone abuse, cheats, and exploits in multiplayer, but it's better used against the AI than another person being on the receiving end of it.

Further, I know the AI cheats to try and keep up with people, and I'm more okay with that than other humans cheating.  I know they won't be the challenge on par with another person, but I'm fine with that.

I like co-op more than PvP. I'm a team player at heart. I like having people's backs, and them having mine, even if it's not directly so. Like I said, I know the AI cheats. The AI has always cheated. It's diffirent though.

I've giggled gleefully as I managed kill streaks in PvP via cunning, and stuff. I'm no stranger to the adrenaline rushes of PvP. Thing is, it's not worth putting up with other people for me.

I can get challenged outside of PvP. I can get some rushes out of PvP. Aside from dealing with intelligent enemies I don't see a reason to go to PvP in the face of dealing with the stuff people do.

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I don't know about you guys, but once Pong comes out I'm definitely getting that. Maybe after awhile I can work myself up to getting Battletoads.

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cowwy wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but once Pong comes out I'm definitely getting that. Maybe after awhile I can work myself up to getting Battletoads.


overrated. Burgertime is where it is at.

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corporal doody wrote...

cowwy wrote...

I don't know about you guys, but once Pong comes out I'm definitely getting that. Maybe after awhile I can work myself up to getting Battletoads.


overrated. Burgertime is where it is at.


I'm not going to lie I had to look that up. :whistle:

It made me want to play Jetpac though.