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[HydroFlame20]

IcarusAloft wrote...

josehinojos wrote...

TBH, I don't mind these kind of delays. I can wait another day.

Just another day to stockpile some more credits to hopefully snag up any new character/weapon drops.

yea i agree its not a big deal it gives me time to save up more credits so I can get  the new toon when it drops .

[JackKnife23]

Ernest Tse wrote...

Keep in mind last week we had N7 day stuff and the week before we had Halloween. Then Nov 11th came by lest we forget. Just sayin.

worst excuse ever

[Clearly Balkan]

Stop whining OP for only 24H difference.

It makes you look pathetic.

[Nydus Templar]

Draining Dragon wrote...



Okay, really, Bioware? This is the fourth time in a row you've been late.

It's really not that hard to change some variables in a script. There is absolutely no reason for you to EVER be late with the balance changes.

Bioware is late you say?  I think someone has been fooling around with 343 again...
Baby Shower Time!

[Ernest Tse]

JackKnife23 wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

Keep in mind last week we had N7 day stuff and the week before we had Halloween. Then Nov 11th came by lest we forget. Just sayin.

worst excuse ever

So you think spending time to create special events and  Rememberance Day is a bad excuse for releasing balance changes 1 day late?

[Auras_Mendalla]

SavagelyEpic wrote...

mpompeo27 wrote...

stefbomb wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

Keep in mind last week we had N7 day stuff and the week before we had Halloween. Then Nov 11th came by lest we forget. Just sayin.

What's special about Nov 11th?

It's a holiday Remembrance Day in Canada. Heard about it through my job.

How are you americans completely unaware of the fact that is also so happens to be your Veterans Day?

Is it the new trendy "in" thing to be utterly oblivious to your service members? I mean I knew americans had a large and disproportionate amount of hate towards their soldiers compared to other nations, but completely forgetting a major memorial date like that is new. At least, I think it is, I wouldn't really know.

You Americans is it? You know blanket statements like that are prejudicial and hurtful. I may cry. 

I know all about Remembrance Day. Granted I used to be married to a Canadian, so I may not be the norm. 

Modifié par Auras_Mendalla, 14 novembre 2012 - 12:47 .

[Rynocerous]

Ernest, please pay no attention to the troll. The fact that some whining petulant child complains is no reason for you guys to get upset.

To JackKnife23: I'm disgusted I spent 4 years in the military to defend anyone who thinks like you. Please tell me you're not American.

[Bryan Johnson]

 We did not sign a contract that says "we will do balance changes every week". We try to be consistant because of consistancy, which has led out fans to be conditioned. This is both "powerful" and a curse, it requires less in the way of communication but is very difficult to break away from and can lead to anger and misunderstanding.

3 weeks ago more testing was required, it happens when a balance change is over 50 changes

2 weeks ago we had a halloween challenge which fell on halloween we also did 2 things we hadn't done before. A new banner and replacing objectives. Then after that we also had to remove the halloween changes on the monday, that verification didnt come without a cost either.

1 week ago we had N7 challenge, which we wanted to land on N7 day. Furthermore if we did do 2 server pushes (one tuesday, one on wednesday) it makes it very hard to test ie we would have less than a day to test our push on wednesday.

This week we had rememberance day on sunday, which (because it is a stat/public holiday) we were given monday off as a day in lieu. I am not sure about you all but I certainly enjoy my days, and appreciate it when I get it for a holiday that means something to me. So really Wednesday is the 2nd day of the work week which you could argue is when we release balance changes, because we have generally released on a wednesday if monday is a holiday.

I do not believe any aspect of having a day delay because of a holiday instead of having us work late is an outrage.

[aimimia]

Ernest Tse wrote...

JackKnife23 wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

Keep in mind last week we had N7 day stuff and the week before we had Halloween. Then Nov 11th came by lest we forget. Just sayin.

worst excuse ever

So you think spending time to create special events and  Rememberance Day is a bad excuse for releasing balance changes 1 day late?

Putting it in that perspective... one day late for extra bonus happy stuff which gave us an ultra rare+ and other fun goodies? I think it's actually quite good of you to only take one day extra for such things. You guys are the best!

[jsherman]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

 We did not sign a contract that says "we will do balance changes every week". We try to be consistant because of consistancy, which has led out fans to be conditioned. This is both "powerful" and a curse, it requires less in the way of communication but is very difficult to break away from and can lead to anger and misunderstanding.

3 weeks ago more testing was required, it happens when a balance change is over 50 changes

2 weeks ago we had a halloween challenge which fell on halloween we also did 2 things we hadn't done before. A new banner and replacing objectives. Then after that we also had to remove the halloween changes on the monday, that verification didnt come without a cost either.

1 week ago we had N7 challenge, which we wanted to land on N7 day. Furthermore if we did do 2 server pushes (one tuesday, one on wednesday) it makes it very hard to test ie we would have less than a day to test our push on wednesday.

This week we had rememberance day on sunday, which (because it is a stat/public holiday) we were given monday off as a day in lieu. I am not sure about you all but I certainly enjoy my days, and appreciate it when I get it for a holiday that means something to me. So really Wednesday is the 2nd day of the work week which you could argue is when we release balance changes, because we have generally released on a wednesday if monday is a holiday.

I do not believe any aspect of having a day delay because of a holiday instead of having us work late is an outrage.

That sounds quite reasonable to me. :happy:

[Kingston Atticus]

There's NOTHING saying that they have to do them, so be greatful. They are NOT required to constantly keep tinkering with Mp for OUR enjoyment or percieved entitlement. The game was sold as a Single player game. Multiplayer was an experimental addition and therefore NOT required for them to keep it balanced. MOST companies would just let it slide into crap after 6 months. Bioware has chosen to continue trying to cater to their fans instead of just moving onto the next money-making project. Be glad we get what we get when we get it. They have proven they like our actual ideas though so instead of complaining about waiting one extra day for something they are NOT required to give you, just come up with ideas for game changes that could be done and the majority would agree to.

[Bryan Johnson]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

.2da edit and a few globals changed, a script or two with simple numeric substitution.

An outrage? Not really...

Lame excuse? Fairly...

Lets take a new kit
 - Is it unlockable in store
 - Do the strings show up? Do they show up for all languages?
 - Do you get the correct number of unlocks for them?
 - Does their drop rate seem correct?
 - Is there a challenge for it?
 - Does the challenge have all the strings? Are they all translated?
 - Does it show up in the GUI?
 - Does it track progress correctly?
 - Does the challenge completing actually add to the gold level challenge?
 - Does it reset when the gold level is complete?
 - Do the people maintaining the n7hq know about the new kit?
 - Does the correct number of unlocks show up underneath?
 - Does the kit level corespond to the correct level on the website?
 - Does the power icons etc show up correctly?
 - Does the leveling of powers show up correctly?
 - Does the challenge show up properly?
 - Does the challenge track properly?

Still more but there is a good amount of things that can (and do) go wrong. Also add in the fact there are 3 platforms.

[ToLazy4Name]

Bryan and Ernest, i'd just like to say that not all of us are hating on you guys. Unfortunate strings of downtime happen, and this is one of them. Not all of us are unappreciative of what you guys do. Keep up the good work.

[Tipsyfresh]

Ernest Tse wrote...

Keep in mind last week we had N7 day stuff and the week before we had Halloween. Then Nov 11th came by lest we forget. Just sayin.

o dear, I didn't actually think of that. 
 Still, it seemed even they were expecting the today.

but even still, I wuv them

Modifié par Tipsyfresh, 14 novembre 2012 - 01:20 .

[dysomnium]

Ernest Tse wrote...

Just sayin.

Heeeeyyyy... that's my line!
Just sayin'.

[Voxgizer]

Lathrim wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Bryan and Ernest, i'd just like to say that not all of us are hating on you guys. Unfortunate strings of downtime happen, and this is one of them. Not all of us are unappreciative of what you guys do. Keep up the good work.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Same.

Keep up the good work, and ignore the whiners, they're irrelevant. 

[Necrotron]

Not sure if op is serious...

really, I expect delays. Rarely is a video game company able to keep up with the frequent updates they intend, and that's not that big of a deal.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Eh, it's annoying but I don't mind the delay with all the new stuff the MP team puts out all the time.

:Bryan and Ernest, i'd just like to say that not all of us are hating on you guys. Unfortunate strings of downtime happen, and this is one of them. Not all of us are unappreciative of what you guys do. Keep up the good work."

^ This.

Modifié par PKchu, 14 novembre 2012 - 01:18 .

[Saans Shadow]

The first week it was late, now they are on time at this point, why they haven't changed the "official" day to wed is beyond me.

[corporal doody]

and the Oscar for righteous indignation in a melodrama goes to..........

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

Well stated.... I did not think about languages, which has been a sticky thorn in my side modding your games in the past, so.... touche.

Many of the other listed things are fairly much a reiteration of themselves, and seems to be a little misleading considering that this IS simple substitution in most cases. I know that every tinkering can open a new can of worms, but with careful, considerate, professional people working on it, it really is not as complicated as you are making it out to be, IMO,

I supported Bioware in being late the last two times (very reasonable, actually good and sensible, reasons), but I worked on the holiday, so.... I guess I am less than sympathetic, although I am always one to enjoy a day off. To that end, I hope you enjoyed it!

Perhaps going forward, consider nipping things like this in the bud by just making an announcement as early as possible? On close of business Friday, looking at a holiday weekend, it was probably clear to the crew then that balance changes would not be on-time for Tuesday's release.

Interesting sidenote: You quoted my post, yet my post has been deleted.

[corporal doody]

Rynocerous wrote...

Ernest, please pay no attention to the troll. The fact that some whining petulant child complains is no reason for you guys to get upset.

To JackKnife23: I'm disgusted I spent 4 years in the military to defend anyone who thinks like you. Please tell me you're not American.

amen

[HellishFiend]

I think this topic is the outrage. The guys at BW have done more to support MP than any of us imagined they would, and yet some people have the nerve to whine and moan about something like this.