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[Andy the Black]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

[Deadlysyns]

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

[Shadow Storm]

iggy4566 wrote...

 Due to all the neg feedback ME4 will sell poorly very poorly Cause a very large number of fans are done with ME and Bioware and they can't fool any one with their PR spin anymore.

Actually in most cases it is the opposite. The same fans that scream out about the wrongs of ME3 will be the first to buy it out of curiosity i assure you. Bioware knows that and that is likely why they haven't caved in to the overwhelming demand for change. With so many questions left unanswered and the fate of the universe seemingly destroyed you can bet curiosity will always get the better of people as is our nature.

You will likely have those that will say that they are buying the game to redicule it which is code for i am full of **** i am buying it because i am curious and expect good things from it. Simple fact is bad does pay off in the gaming industry most of the time. Unless it is overwhelmingly bad in which case people won't buy it through fear of being disappointed again. The ME series cannot be that bad if people have stuck it out this long and thus people will still support it despite the major downside of ME3.

[Andy the Black]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

Anakin's story doesn't end in Episode 3 in ends in Jedi. 4, 5, and 6 are just as much about him as the are Luke.

[Darsig]

I'll buy Mass Effect 4 if they go back to the basics. Keep the combat, they could improve it if they liked. I want more RPG-elements from ME1. The series has strayed away from that and has become a casual friendly shooter, and I don't think that will change. I hate to say it.

If I'm ever going to buy it I want no auto-dialogue, more customizable options, and an ending depending on choices in the game, not blue, green and red colors. I will probably not buy it at first. I want to see the fan reactons first. I'm just worried that EA is turning this franchise into some horrible rushed action shooters with bad writing.

Modifié par Darsig, 14 novembre 2012 - 02:50 .

[Deadlysyns]

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

Anakin's story doesn't end in Episode 3 in ends in Jedi. 4, 5, and 6 are just as much about him as the are Luke.

we know that now but we didn't then and Vader was not truely anakin until Jedi when he turned back to the light side

[Fattness132]

Anything that has Hudson or Walters' names on it is an instant no buy for me from now on. So basically i will never buy ME4 or whatever the **** they decide to call it.

[Andy the Black]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

Anakin's story doesn't end in Episode 3 in ends in Jedi. 4, 5, and 6 are just as much about him as the are Luke.

we know that now but we didn't then and Vader was not truely anakin until Jedi when he turned back to the light side

Star Wars was always about more than just Luke. A clue to this is that it starts with episode 4. Anakin was always still a part of Vader, Luke made this point to Obi-Wan and Leia in Jedi "there's still good in him", it's also why Vader didn't let Palpatine kill Luke and why Luke was able to "save" him on the Death Star.

[SpamBot2000]

All I know is I personally feel no great urge to give BioWare more money as of now. The qualities of ME4 itself don't really have much to do with it. The thought of Casey Hudson buying a gold-plated jacuzzi to smirk in about his Artistic Integrity irks me. And ME3 needs some closure before I consider buying any more B-Ware. It's still unfinished. They know what's needed.

That is all.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 14 novembre 2012 - 03:12 .

[Darsig]

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

Anakin's story doesn't end in Episode 3 in ends in Jedi. 4, 5, and 6 are just as much about him as the are Luke.

we know that now but we didn't then and Vader was not truely anakin until Jedi when he turned back to the light side

Star Wars was always about more than just Luke. A clue to this is that it starts with episode 4. Anakin was always still a part of Vader, Luke made this point to Obi-Wan and Leia in Jedi "there's still good in him", it's also why Vader didn't let Palpatine kill Luke and why Luke was able to "save" him on the Death Star.

Star Wars is Anakins fall and redemption. That's it. Luke is the "catalyst" to all that.

[Evo_9]

Ill buy mass effect even if it gets taken over by disney

[The RPGenius]

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'll buy like 10 copies just to spite you OP.

Yeah, you go spend the better part of $1000 of your own money on a single game!  That'll REALLY show that random internet individual who you will never meet!  We are all in awe of how cool and wise you clearly are.

[Deadlysyns]

Darsig wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

Anakin's story doesn't end in Episode 3 in ends in Jedi. 4, 5, and 6 are just as much about him as the are Luke.

we know that now but we didn't then and Vader was not truely anakin until Jedi when he turned back to the light side

Star Wars was always about more than just Luke. A clue to this is that it starts with episode 4. Anakin was always still a part of Vader, Luke made this point to Obi-Wan and Leia in Jedi "there's still good in him", it's also why Vader didn't let Palpatine kill Luke and why Luke was able to "save" him on the Death Star.

Star Wars is Anakins fall and redemption. That's it. Luke is the "catalyst" to all that.

Anakin was in the original Trilogy but the story was about how Luke helped fulfill Anakin's Destiny. So the orginal Trilogy is two stories in one the more prevelant being lukes. 

[FlamingBoy]

Will what happen to the ending of me3 (among other things) hurt sales in me4, absolutely
but doesn't mean it won't sell

[Andy the Black]

Darsig wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...

Halo 4 follows the same timeline if you play 4 without playing any of the older games you are going to be like what the hell. thats why new Trilogies introduce new main Characters

But it's a new story arc. Halo 3 closed the "Covenant story arc" and Halo 4 starts a new one. Though I guess the best way to look at it would be it's all 117's story made up from different smaller storys. The same way some separate Episodes 1, 2, and 3, from 4, 5, and 6.

its different Episode 4 .5 and 6 were lukes story episode 1 2 and 3 Anakins 

Anakin's story doesn't end in Episode 3 in ends in Jedi. 4, 5, and 6 are just as much about him as the are Luke.

we know that now but we didn't then and Vader was not truely anakin until Jedi when he turned back to the light side

Star Wars was always about more than just Luke. A clue to this is that it starts with episode 4. Anakin was always still a part of Vader, Luke made this point to Obi-Wan and Leia in Jedi "there's still good in him", it's also why Vader didn't let Palpatine kill Luke and why Luke was able to "save" him on the Death Star.

Star Wars is Anakins fall and redemption. That's it. Luke is the "catalyst" to all that.

At it's core yeah, pretty much this. Though I would say Palpatine is the "catalyst" to Anakin's fall and Luke is his saviour. If you include the EU Star Wars is much more than just the story of Anakin and/or Luke, even more when you bring in Episode Mickey 7.

Anyway, as much as I love talking Star Wars (and I really do) I feel we're in real danger of derailing this thread.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 14 novembre 2012 - 03:24 .

[Massa FX]

Pfftt! If they opened up preorders today, the presales would triple ME3's total lifetime sales. Controversy fosters excitement which promotes curiosity which gives way to more excitement which equals big numbers in sales.

Baaa! Baaah! Oops. I made that sheep sound again didn't I?

[valkulon]

ya ok, buddy, whatever ya say

[QseftJohn]

I'll buy mass effect 4, heck I'll preoder the CE. I have forgiven Bioware and I think they have figured out what they did wrong.

And since this a new story, there is no possible way that they can dissapoint us as bad as ME 3 any way.

[Necrotron]

Umm, I seriously doubt it won't sell. ME3's ending may have ruined the franchise for a large number of people, but chances are if ME4 is good, many people will be back to enjoy that story for what it is.

Just like if Star Wars 7 is decent, I'll definetly watch it, even if I think the prequels are generally pretty poorly written scripts that don't live up to the franchise.

[MegaSovereign]

The RPGenius wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I'll buy like 10 copies just to spite you OP.

Yeah, you go spend the better part of $1000 of your own money on a single game!  That'll REALLY show that random internet individual who you will never meet!  We are all in awe of how cool and wise you clearly are.

Calm down. I obviously won't do that.

The OP believes the next ME game won't sell because certain fans threw a b*tch fit about ME3. I don't have to buy 10 copies to prove him wrong.

[Reth Shepherd]

QseftJohn wrote...

I'll buy mass effect 4, heck I'll preoder the CE. I have forgiven Bioware and I think they have figured out what they did wrong.

And since this a new story, there is no possible way that they can dissapoint us as bad as ME 3 any way.

Just curious, what makes you think they've figured out their mistakes? Or that they intend to fix them? They certainly haven't SAID anything pointing to that conclusion.

As for the second...don't jump to conclusions just yet. This is EAware, if there is a deeper hole they can dig, it'll happen.

[Kroitz]

But it already sold out ...

[Rafficus III]

Says you. Several I have talked to want ME4. BSN is the only site that I know of where the majority is openly hostile to the idea. I post on two other sites and an overwhelming majority say they want ME4. So keep your negative spin, I'll be pre-ordering.