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[ash the rpgamer]

ive just completed my 1st full playthrough, the archdemon was by no means the toughest boss

at 1st my party died fast and i had to reload a few times, then everyone died apart from shale in like 3 minutes and he singlehandedly got the dragon to about 60% health from melee attacks, he died from the spirit flames though.

i read on here about how 'easy' it is but very few people seem to have done it the easy way that i did.(and 1st playthrough i had some rubbish armor/weapons/items etc)
if you have a party of 4, send your PC and 2 others down to the far ballista(giant wooden crossbow bow, artillery piece) then select hold position, send your tank down to the ballista opposite to the 1 you are at.
then simply fire whichever ballista is in range at the dragon, when the dragon is hit it has a sort of hit animation in which it can't attack,breath fire etc and you can fire the ballista again just before the animation ends

so basically what it does is it pins down the dragon and stops it being able to attack, so all you do is keep firing that ballista, it deals alot of damage and makes short work of the archdemon. the only problem you may encounter is the darkspawn, in which case your PC will have 2 others protecting him/her and your tank should be able to handle them alone, not to mention if you want to make it really easy you can call your support armies.

this worked great for me, and if you didn't know this its an easy way to defeat the archdemon.

[Godak]

Heh, during my first playthrough I found the ballista and I was like "Huh, does this do anything?" To my never ending amusement, it cause the dragon to enter a stagger animation, and you can spam it. I wasn't exactly looking to be cheap, but it was just too hilarious.



I'm sure plently of people have found the same thing.

[bas273]

I've never even used it.

Good job 'ask the rpgamer' although I'll never use it because it makes the battle less rewarding but that's just my opinion .

[fantasypisces]

Yeah, I have never used the ballistas. I just heal and use health poultices as needed.



The only time I use spirit resist is right in the beginning when I buy four from Sandal.

[Godak]

bas273 wrote...

I've never even used it.
Good job 'ask the rpgamer' although I'll never use it because it makes the battle less rewarding but that's just my opinion .

It's just a bit ironic that the great Archdemon was defeated by a glorified crossbow.

[BomimoDK]

the best way is to send ranged NPC's to the balistas and keep melees eating away at the beast. next time though, i'll be doing it the hard way.

[ash the rpgamer]

yh i must admit its a very easy way to defeat the archdemon, and judging by the name the dragon should be the toughest boss.



when i fought him though it was my 1st playthrough and i'd just died 4/5 times so i was glad i'd beat him even though it was remarkable simple.

[ash the rpgamer]

Maviarab wrote...

The 'easiest' way...

Get the golems, by the time the last golem drops, she already moved and on half life

the ballistae is even easier, it stops the dragon from attacking or moving, a soon as you get that ballista on target, you've won, no armies,spells or other attacks necessary

[tevikolady]

Crushing prison, virulent walking bomb, and ballista. Went down fast spamming those

[Yakmala]

Also, be sure to bring someone who can fix a ballista when it jams.

[Spartansfan8888]

Godak wrote...

bas273 wrote...

I've never even used it.
Good job 'ask the rpgamer' although I'll never use it because it makes the battle less rewarding but that's just my opinion .

It's just a bit ironic that the great Archdemon was defeated by a glorified crossbow.

Not really... I mean you watch the cutscene of all the normal arrows shrugging off him, it makes sense to hit him with bigger ones.

[Titius.Vibius]

First of all don't get intimidated by the archdemon, gaxkang is even tougher to beat. Use the mages and always secure your team together, do not leave them on their own because you might not be able to monitor their actions and may be just standing around. If you are an assassin use the mark of death or if you are a duelist use upset balance. Now be reminded that the skills may be resisted during your first attempts but as long as you can can diminish its life by 60% they will now be effective and you can even do single combat against the archdemon.

[stillnotking]

The Archdemon fight is very annoying, he always seems to jump around to platforms that are a mile away from your DPS and/or out of ballista range. But yes, it's far from the hardest fight in the game.

All the "final battle" segments are fairly easy (hordes of Genlock Grunts with HP so low that even Leliana was one-shotting them, etc.). My feeling is that Bioware didn't want players to reach the end of the game and then be unable to complete it due to bad party comp and/or stat allocation.

[smore006]

stillnotking wrote...
My feeling is that Bioware didn't want players to reach the end of the game and then be unable to complete it due to bad party comp and/or stat allocation.

Another possibility is that they wanted the player to feel like the Grey Wardens of the legends to whom the darkspawn were no match. If you have high enough Survival, you can see the levels of the enemies; in the final battle sequences all but the boss enemies are level 0, 1 or 10, while the hero is at least 18 by then. This way the hero is indeed the mighty Grey Warden against the regular darkspawn but the bosses/lieutenants/etc are still somewhat challenging. 
In my opinion Bioware went the best possible route with this, kept the whole thing within 'lore', and presented the players fun battles in the finals, instead of having them to reload countless times.

That said, i think the Archdemon is not that big deal of a boss, even without using the ballistae. On my first playthrough i played a mage on normal difficulty and took it down on the first attempt without anyone dying (with Morrigan, Leli and Alistair in the party). Well yeah, magi are overpowered and whatnot... 

[Sloimpreza]

stillnotking wrote...

The Archdemon fight is very annoying, he always seems to jump around to platforms that are a mile away from your DPS and/or out of ballista range. But yes, it's far from the hardest fight in the game.
All the "final battle" segments are fairly easy (hordes of Genlock Grunts with HP so low that even Leliana was one-shotting them, etc.). My feeling is that Bioware didn't want players to reach the end of the game and then be unable to complete it due to bad party comp and/or stat allocation.

They also wanted to send a seige of darkspawn at you. Sure you probably could've taken them too but it would take too long and if the systems could support it, I think they would've wanted it to look like the battle at Ostegar where you have hundreds of them coming at you... But can you imagine the micromangement required?

The one-shot kills on the grunts are more of a nuisance for the 2H guys though. They could've tapped them and they would go down but they had to make that giant swing.

[Koralis]

Evon's mail is great.  Good armor, health and stamina regen. The dodge is the biggest deal though.    By not being in a set, you can pick and choose other pieces on their merits instead of being forced to consider set bonuses.   The only downside is the expense.

Anyone know if there's a maximum Dodge value allowed byh the scripts?

Modifié par Koralis, 04 janvier 2010 - 11:42 .

[Vae_Victis]

Irving and the mages are pretty much able to take the Archdemon by themselves as well.

[ijmorris]

I never even needed a reload on the archdemon...First off, I called the elves into battle...The archdemon and darkspawn will spend a lot of time on them, allowing you to run back and forth between the ballistae...Switched everyone to ranged weapons and just stood back and shot him with the arrows and abllistae and mages using crushing prison and stone fist...with Wynne even the spirit flames weren't a problem...the entropic death was an issue though (I think he cast that a couple times on me)...

[ijmorris]

to be honest the hardest battle I fought was the first revenant in redcliffe castle...

[ash the rpgamer]

hardest battle i fought was probably marjolaine actually, i started it when my characters were fairly low level and it was very difficult



on the whole i'd say it would probably be easy, but i was a low level and poorly equipped when i attempted it so it seemed incredibly hard.

[DJ0000]

My problem with the Archdemon battle wasn't the dragon itself but the army of darkspawn that get involved, even so, it still not so difficult.

[Kebrahl]

LOL I've completed the game twice (normal + hard) and never seen the ballistae and I've never realized that you could still call in allies at that moment.



So I've always done it without those two things and I've still found it very easy. On my hard playthrough with my archer I just stuck him on auto attack on the archdemon when she goes away to the platform while the others took care of the darkspawn.



Gaxkang for me was really easy but toiugh battles included the first Revenant, first Sir Cauthrien fight and the bandit fights in Denerim.

[jeff the zombie]

I've actually found the last fight to be kind of hard on XBOX 360 -- mostly due to the controls. Once the hordes of darkspawn start errr ... spawning, it's very hard to micromanage your party. I still haven't taken down the archdemon, though I've come very close. Another attempt will be made tonight -- it's just a shame my DPS quit the party because I was too moral.

[Elvis_Shepard]

jeff the zombie wrote...

I've actually found the last fight to be kind of hard on XBOX 360 -- mostly due to the controls. Once the hordes of darkspawn start errr ... spawning, it's very hard to micromanage your party. I still haven't taken down the archdemon, though I've come very close. Another attempt will be made tonight -- it's just a shame my DPS quit the party because I was too moral.

So, it's been a year. Have you completed it yet?