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[Reizo Ryuu]

mistervirginia wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

So...is only the geth pyro working properly? The batarian has screwed up voices, the asari apparantly has a completely wrong passive tree, the shaman was missing a 5th card and now this....

how is the Asari's passives messed up? 

Read the description of the passive before entering it, it's not Justicar.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

...this forum.

[MidKnight-Fury]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

We got delayed for the changes to be wrong anyway LMFAO!!!

[Richter Harken]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

Will the broken Batarian Vaguard kit be similarly addressed?

By which I mean his stagger resistance. He has human-level stagger resistance, and zero stagger resist on his heavy melee, making the kit essentially worthless. 

Modifié par Richter Harken, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:34 .

[Chealec]

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

[Eterna]

Elotana wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

Can you guys address it by maybe hiring a tester or two? Is Canadian minimum wage really that punishing?

Stand down, there is no reason to get snarky. 

[sandboxgod]

Shouldn't this problem get fixed ASAP? Guess its not a big deal. I dont want this new Vorcha anyway to be honest.

[Liefglinde]

Chealec wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

It was a simple matter of actually looking at the numbers and not copypasting and calling it a day. Of those several hundred thousand of us, how many of those do you think got the new kit in the first 5 minutes? Not nearly that many. And yet the bug was found.

[PinchLion]

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

So...is only the geth pyro working properly? The batarian has screwed up voices, the asari apparantly has a completely wrong passive tree, the shaman was missing a 5th card and now this....

how is the Asari's passives messed up? 

Read the description of the passive before entering it, it's not Justicar.

I don't think this was a screw up. I think they didn't pre-plan for the release of a "Justicar" kit; when you invested in the original Asari passive tree, you were "becoming" a Justicar. That's how I took it.

[TheSpookyAce]

Chealec wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

Yes, it's so hard to find out 20 professionals won't be enough.

[Kalas Magnus]

Feneckus wrote...

Just checked, you're right.

Definitely not playing this character. I wasn't going to anyway.

[Reizo Ryuu]

Paradise Ablaze wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

So...is only the geth pyro working properly? The batarian has screwed up voices, the asari apparantly has a completely wrong passive tree, the shaman was missing a 5th card and now this....

how is the Asari's passives messed up? 

Read the description of the passive before entering it, it's not Justicar.

I don't think this was a screw up. I think they didn't pre-plan for the release of a "Justicar" kit; when you invested in the original Asari passive tree, you were "becoming" a Justicar. That's how I took it.

Try actually reading the description of the valkyrie tree, it should provide bonusses that the justicar tree doesn't.

[mistervirginia]

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

So...is only the geth pyro working properly? The batarian has screwed up voices, the asari apparantly has a completely wrong passive tree, the shaman was missing a 5th card and now this....

how is the Asari's passives messed up? 

Read the description of the passive before entering it, it's not Justicar.

lol oh.  never even noticed.

[WMcAlister]

Liefglinde wrote...

Chealec wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

It was a simple matter of actually looking at the numbers and not copypasting and calling it a day. Of those several hundred thousand of us, how many of those do you think got the new kit in the first 5 minutes? Not nearly that many. And yet the bug was found.

More than 20.  Lots more.

[Miclotov]

Maybe they could really profit from some kind of bola ability. You know, new kit, new power, less avoidable. Making little Screechies happy. :3

[Avl521]

Woah... So the changes get delayed, a less than okay character is released with the same skin (I thought he had goggles?), and on top of that he gets a pre-balance change SubNet?

AND THEY'RE WAITING 'TILL NEXT WEEK TO FIX IT!?
Wow. Just wow.

[PinchLion]

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

Paradise Ablaze wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

So...is only the geth pyro working properly? The batarian has screwed up voices, the asari apparantly has a completely wrong passive tree, the shaman was missing a 5th card and now this....

how is the Asari's passives messed up? 

Read the description of the passive before entering it, it's not Justicar.

I don't think this was a screw up. I think they didn't pre-plan for the release of a "Justicar" kit; when you invested in the original Asari passive tree, you were "becoming" a Justicar. That's how I took it.

Try actually reading the description of the valkyrie tree, it should provide bonusses that the justicar tree doesn't.

My mistake. I misunderstood the issue.

[TMB903]

I have no desire to use him anyway but wow are these "new" characters even being tested? I'm still curious how a human-Batarian hybrid vanguard totally slipped by testing...

[MidKnight-Fury]

I Think this was a secret plot to Delay next weeks changes again!!!! BIOWARE IS TROLLING US!!

[Liefglinde]

WMcAlister wrote...

Liefglinde wrote...

Chealec wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

It was a simple matter of actually looking at the numbers and not copypasting and calling it a day. Of those several hundred thousand of us, how many of those do you think got the new kit in the first 5 minutes? Not nearly that many. And yet the bug was found.

More than 20.  Lots more.

Point is we're not professionals. We didn't spend a week (read: 30 seconds, as it appears) coming up with this character. We didn't design this character. And yet players found a glaring issue in a matter of minutes.

There's a difference between a gameplay bug and a bug that is sitting there and staring you in the face. There is absolutely no excuse as to why this bug was not found and corrected.

[WMcAlister]

Liefglinde wrote...

WMcAlister wrote...

Liefglinde wrote...

Chealec wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

It was a simple matter of actually looking at the numbers and not copypasting and calling it a day. Of those several hundred thousand of us, how many of those do you think got the new kit in the first 5 minutes? Not nearly that many. And yet the bug was found.

More than 20.  Lots more.

Point is we're not professionals. We didn't spend a week (read: 30 seconds, as it appears) coming up with this character. We didn't design this character. And yet players found a glaring issue in a matter of minutes.

There's a difference between a gameplay bug and a bug that is sitting there and staring you in the face. There is absolutely no excuse as to why this bug was not found and corrected.

I'm not saying I'm happy about it.  I'm not saying it wasn't a bad mistake. 

I am saying that we've all made similar mistakes.  I've written papers and worked on code (sometimes in groups) where the most asinine mistake was made simply because there was a lot to do and not a lot of time to do it, or because everything just starts to blur together after a while. 

I'm saying that people on BSN misrepresent programming that they seem to believe is the utmost simplicity.

But most of all, I'm amazed that so many people who say the class is crap and won't ever play it anyway feel they need to chime in on how the class was done wrong.

Modifié par WMcAlister, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:46 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

Liefglinde wrote...

WMcAlister wrote...

Liefglinde wrote...

Chealec wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Thing is, the community catches the mistake in under 5 minutes. Says something.

Yeah - shows there are several hundred thousand of us and what, maybe 20 Devs and QA peeps at BW working on MP?

It was a simple matter of actually looking at the numbers and not copypasting and calling it a day. Of those several hundred thousand of us, how many of those do you think got the new kit in the first 5 minutes? Not nearly that many. And yet the bug was found.

More than 20.  Lots more.

Point is we're not professionals. We didn't spend a week (read: 30 seconds, as it appears) coming up with this character. We didn't design this character. And yet players found a glaring issue in a matter of minutes.

There's a difference between a gameplay bug and a bug that is sitting there and staring you in the face. There is absolutely no excuse as to why this bug was not found and corrected.

Similar thing goes to Krysae & Typhoon.
Although they were not BUGs, introducint pre-nerf Krysae after nerfing Falcon was pretty @#$@.
Typhoon with 2x damage multiplier + 1m penetration.. too good? I guess it was.

These things didn`t even realy had to be tested. They were in right front of your face asking to be fixed.

[Astartes Marine]

Eterna5 wrote...

Elotana wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...
We will address this with next week's changes.

Can you guys address it by maybe hiring a tester or two? Is Canadian minimum wage really that punishing?

Stand down, there is no reason to get snarky. 

Really now?  The classes "released" as in created and finalized, with the latest DLC and BioWare's people have not double checked their stats to make sure everything is up to par?  It has been several weeks and still errors are being found with these new characters.

At the least I'd expect the power to be fixed with the balance changes that unlocked said character.  

Modifié par Astartes Marine, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:48 .

[lavatsunami]

How many of you idiots actually program? All this forum does is whine about getting new things, things that seem like small changes but take a considerable amount of design and work to change, and you all want them right away. The price of right away = mistakes. Pick one, noobs.

Modifié par lavatsunami, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:49 .

[Dorje Sylas]

Which is why Valve and many other PC centric companies now run public beta test builds before sending stuff off to the 'live' build. It's actually quite logical to harness community think-power to do a final polish.