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[uzivatel]

Elotana wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

Can you guys address it by maybe hiring a tester or two? Is Canadian minimum wage really that punishing?

Well, EA has studios all around the world, maybe they could hire someone overseas?

[sandboxgod]

lavatsunami wrote...

How many of you idiots actually program? All this forum does is whine about getting new things, things that seem like small changes but take a considerable amount of design and work to change, and you all want them right away. The price of right away = mistakes. Pick one, noobs.

Wrong forum to ask that question buddy. Always assume the average PC gamer is a Hacker that understands basic programming (C, C++, Hex/Binary, etc) 


edit- But like I said before, I doubt I will play this new character. I'd be pissed tho if I waited for a long time for a broken character tho

Modifié par sandboxgod, 14 novembre 2012 - 09:15 .

[Flambrose]

ElusiveOneN7 wrote...

Surprisingly negative thread considering the quality of the character in question. Did anyone really want to play this character? Incinerate is good but it's on so many kits already, and Submission net is the most dodged ability in the game. Just promote your engineers and enjoy the free exp from unlocking the hunter.

It's probably because the hunter is so bad that everyone's such a negative nancy about this in particular. Though given some of the responses to the Shaman and Valkyrie, I wouldn't be surprised about complaints either way

[IC-07]

APEX KING19 wrote...

they should have gave it flamer instead of incinerate. stop them dead with sub net then burn them to death with flamer would have been a good combo to be honest

Another vorcha with a flamer is too much, don't you think?

P.S. Never expected much from this character. Incernirate and sub.net were never tempting to see in one character.

[DJ Airsurfer]

aquamutt wrote...
yes next week is so far away
how will any of us survie with this 1 kit being bugged for a whole week?

You seem to forget the update was delayed, yet got released with an obvious error.

This character was mediocre from the get-go, if they're going to release a mediocre kit, they should at least make sure it's working properly first.

Here's a comparison for you, it's like buying a meal that has either something missing, or something burnt and that you had to wait a week to get your compensation/right order.

While it's not the best comparison, the point I'm trying to get across is pretty clear, in my opinion.

Modifié par DJ Airsurfer, 14 novembre 2012 - 09:22 .

[Avl521]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

aquamutt wrote...
yes next week is so far away
how will any of us survie with this 1 kit being bugged for a whole week?

You seem to forget the update was delayed, yet got released with an obvious error.

This character was mediocre from the get-go, if they're going to release a mediocre kit, they should at least make sure it's working properly first.

Here's a comparison for you, it's like buying a meal that has either something missing, or something burnt and that you had to wait a week to get your compensation/right order.

While it's not the best comparison, the point I'm trying to get across is pretty clear, in my opinion.

Better example: Watch your accountant make a mistake by forgetting to add a 0 on the balance sheet or your company forgetting a 0 on the revenue/profit for the fiscal year. See if investors wait a week before selling all their stocks and see if your company lasts a week before going bankrupt.

Ok, not the best example, but I had fun with it  

[aquamutt]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

aquamutt wrote...
yes next week is so far away
how will any of us survie with this 1 kit being bugged for a whole week?

You seem to forget the update was delayed, yet got released with an obvious error.

This character was mediocre from the get-go, if they're going to release a mediocre kit, they should at least make sure it's working properly.

your right bioware droped to ball on this big time and could have let it be and ingnored this altogether
but they didn't and said they will address it in the next balance changes

as for the character bein mediocre that's your opinion no comment

DJ Airsurfer wrote...
Here's a comparison for you, it's like buying a meal that has either something missing, or something burnt and that you had to wait a week to get your compensation/right order.

While it's not the best comparison, the point I'm trying to get across is pretty clear, in my opinion.

the key word in this post is buy and the fact this isn't food

you didn't buy anything in regards to this or any other dlc for multiplayer not to say it bein free is and excuse for issues such as this but your comparison doesn't work here

[PreGy]

Liefglinde wrote...

BartoshOsiek wrote...

To those asking for immediate fix: The devs have already stated, that it's too complicated to make changes twice a week. That's also the reason why we're not getting new characters on tuesday and changes on wednesday when there is delay.

Quite frankly, I don't care how complicated it is. A glaring mistake was made, and it should be fixed.

If that sounds harsh, that's because it is. I can't understand how people find it acceptable that a company that is doing their job can mess up so much. In nearly any other profession, no one is going to accept the excuse that "oh well it's too complicated so even though i made a mistake I'll fix it in a week." So why is that accepted here?

So true. The very few times I make a mistake in my job, I apologize to the client or person affected, and fix it ASAP.

I guess the average videogames consumer does not realize that simple fact: they are consumers of a product. You may "worship" their "art", but they have to face their mistakes. And this is a weird oversight.

Modifié par PreGy, 14 novembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[Dachau Joseph]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

You seem to forget the update was delayed, yet got released with an obvious error.

This character was mediocre from the get-go, if they're going to release a mediocre kit, they should at least make sure it's working properly first.

Here's a comparison for you, it's like buying a meal that has either something missing, or something burnt and that you had to wait a week to get your compensation/right order.

While it's not the best comparison, the point I'm trying to get across is pretty clear, in my opinion.

What I find truly hilarious is that delay these things an extra day consistently for the past few weeks and each week, there's something wrong with the kit.

[nicethugbert]

Stardusk wrote...

Great, was actually looking forward to this guy and now I have to wait a week. Brilliant. What is the point of delaying stuff and then bringing it out broken?! Seriously...

[born2beagator]

Hahaha.

They delay the changes and they still can't get it right. Well done bioware.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

In all likelihood, the character itself is coded properly. It's the balance changes that aren't being applied to the new character. Unless they intended for it to be an entirely different version of Submission Net, then there is probably just one base version of Submission Net that the software calls. The balance change parameters then get applied on top of this base version. So for whatever reason, the balance change for Submission Net only extends to the Batarian but not the Vorcha. Eric probably just forgot to add the Vorcha to the appropriate balance file(s).

[shadowkinz]

I love sub net.. i always have but i never used it bc the cooldown was stupid. Stasis can afford the cooldown bc u can't dodge it. Sub net not so much! It is such a fun power. I can actually use it with a diff gun bc on batarian i only kishock lol. Tho shockwave is beast for survivability

[Avl521]

Ok there's another thread saying the Incinerate is pre buff too. The title is: "Vorcha Engineer Incinerate+Chill bugged prebuff too..." If that's true then there's no valid excuse for this character.

[Dunvi]

Jesus freaking Christ.
*puts on flame retardant panties*

1. The balance change to submission net occurred September 4th, a mere month before Retaliation was released. Which means Retaliation was probably already in certification. Which means that they gave the character the right submission net, and when preparing the character for release today, they forgot that the power had been changed in the mean time. Was that an oversight? Yes. But a very understandable one. (on an unrelated note, the programmer in me is very interested in the implications this has for the underlying architecture of the character/powers but I digress)

2. The balance change wasn't delayed for the new character. In fact, I doubt much any attention is being paid to the new characters by the release team because theoretically that should already have been tested. Does Retaliation's QA seem inconsistent? Yes. But that's a different problem than what you all are saying.

3. So what were the balance changes delayed for? Firstly, to catch up from Halloween/N7 day. Secondly, don't underestimate how huge the shield gate cooldown and the spawning changes are. Those are huge changes with major implications on the game's power level.

4. Yes, it takes a week to generate a fix and push it to live. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that. However, there are very good and important reasons to have this week long cycle, it's not going away and it really shouldn't anyway. As annoying as it is that this character is pretty much unusable for the next week, it's not a game breaking bug, and definitely not worth breaking cycle for. In fact, from a software/programmer pov, this is really a pretty mild bug.

5. You guys all saying that the numbers are right there on the screen to make it obvious that it's pre-balance subnet? How the hell do you remember what the Batarian's numbers are? I certainly wouldn't know they were the wrong numbers just by looking at them.

Modifié par Dunvi, 14 novembre 2012 - 10:21 .

[Ezmarii]

I believe the term here is "you get what you pay for". I believe it is all a conspiracy and that EA is only letting us have free stuff because either the big wigs don't know about it because they're that freakin' detached from their game devs(which is sad really ) or because they recognize the ME3 ending was the biggest let down to the most awesome series that just builds the player up and up and up...and so are trying to appease us in the easiest way they can without hurting the wallet or public image.

[sclera]

 Extremely disappointing.

[Serge_THE_GREAT]

Stardusk wrote...

Great, was actually looking forward to this guy and now I have to wait a week. Brilliant. What is the point of delaying stuff and then bringing it out broken?! Seriously...

[sclera]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

haha oh wow. 

[DJ Airsurfer]

aquamutt wrote...

your right bioware droped to ball on this big time and could have let it be and ingnored this altogether
but they didn't and said they will address it in the next balance changes

as for the character bein mediocre that's your opinion no comment
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the key word in this post is buy and the fact this isn't food

you didn't buy anything in regards to this or any other dlc for multiplayer not to say it bein free is and excuse for issues such as this but your comparison doesn't work here

"Next week" for something that should have been working THIS week.
--
I bought the game, no? And the comparison isn't about food, for christs sakes. 

Modifié par DJ Airsurfer, 14 novembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[DJ Airsurfer]

Dunvi wrote...
5. You guys all saying that the numbers are right there on the screen to make it obvious that it's pre-balance subnet? How the hell do you remember what the Batarian's numbers are? I certainly wouldn't know they were the wrong numbers just by looking at them.

One can compare the Batarians current SubNet cooldown with the Vorchas.

[X-Com_Psi_Amp]

mess up happens

did you hear about the recent COD incident?

you'd think someone would catch that early on but..

[D Wrecks]

What I don't understand is why you'd leave old, bad code lying around for someone to mistakenly copy-and-paste it like this.

[Stabby Badger]

If BW is going to wait until next week to fix his net please buff the power as a whole. Submission net is terrible even on the batarian.

[Super Nothing]

Ezmarii wrote...

I believe the term here is "you get what you pay for". I believe it is all a conspiracy and that EA is only letting us have free stuff because either the big wigs don't know about it because they're that freakin' detached from their game devs(which is sad really ) or because they recognize the ME3 ending was the biggest let down to the most awesome series that just builds the player up and up and up...and so are trying to appease us in the easiest way they can without hurting the wallet or public image.

No, the "free" DLC is created to generate sales of SPs and PSPs.  It is purely for profit.  If anything, EA is pushing them to create more DLC so they can keep the money rolling in.  This last batch of DLC is the most blatant cash grab.  There is almost nothing new (very few new powers, no new character models, previously withheld weapon mods that still aren't properly fixed) and the content is being slowly leaked over a long period of time hoping to bleed out those stockpiled credits so people start paying real money.  As far as I can tell, the model of "free" DLC with the option to pay real money in order to try to circumvent an intentionally customer-unfriendly store system has been a massive business success.  I'm genuinely concerned what EA will try to pull off in their future releases.