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[Urdnot Trex]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

remember the thread about how you needed an additional day for balance changes? How is tho not already addressed? Like seriously I saw a Dev, think it was Johnson, get pretty defensive about how there is so much that goes into a balance change and the testing etc before releasing a new character, so how was this missed?

[Chaoswind]

The people being annoying

**** off.

The vornieer will be buffed next week.
This changes are the best so far because instead of useless weapon/power buff number 10, we got a global buff to shield gating, exp gains AND objective enemy placement.

[tinler]

Dunvi wrote...

Jesus freaking Christ.
*puts on flame retardant panties*

1. The balance change to submission net occurred September 4th, a mere month before Retaliation was released. Which means Retaliation was probably already in certification. Which means that they gave the character the right submission net, and when preparing the character for release today, they forgot that the power had been changed in the mean time. Was that an oversight? Yes. But a very understandable one. (on an unrelated note, the programmer in me is very interested in the implications this has for the underlying architecture of the character/powers but I digress)

2. The balance change wasn't delayed for the new character. In fact, I doubt much any attention is being paid to the new characters by the release team because theoretically that should already have been tested. Does Retaliation's QA seem inconsistent? Yes. But that's a different problem than what you all are saying.

3. So what were the balance changes delayed for? Firstly, to catch up from Halloween/N7 day. Secondly, don't underestimate how huge the shield gate cooldown and the spawning changes are. Those are huge changes with major implications on the game's power level.

4. Yes, it takes a week to generate a fix and push it to live. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that. However, there are very good and important reasons to have this week long cycle, it's not going away and it really shouldn't anyway. As annoying as it is that this character is pretty much unusable for the next week, it's not a game breaking bug, and definitely not worth breaking cycle for. In fact, from a software/programmer pov, this is really a pretty mild bug.

5. You guys all saying that the numbers are right there on the screen to make it obvious that it's pre-balance subnet? How the hell do you remember what the Batarian's numbers are? I certainly wouldn't know they were the wrong numbers just by looking at them.

 
 
THANK YOU!  The same thoughts were going through my mind and it was so irritating reading all the brainless whining.  Yes, brainless.  A lot of comments implied that all the commenter thought Bioware worked on was the new class and that they got it wrong -- even after a delay (har har).

[tinler]

Just Cav wrote...

What I don't understand is why you'd leave old, bad code lying around for someone to mistakenly copy-and-paste it like this.

 

Probably because it was copy-pasted while the old code was the current code and never got updated with the new code.   Should they have updated the Vorcha Hunter's powers before releasing it?  Of course.  

So what should we do from here?  
BSN:  calm the hell down.  The problem has been acknowledged and fix has been given an ETA.
Bioware:  fix your work process.   Make it part of your weekly release checklist to make sure all powers on the new kit are up-to-date.  If next week's character suffers the same problem as the Vorcha Hunter, then there's no excuse at all.

[Jokoso]

Just wanted to say thanks to BW for acknowledging the problem and updating us on what to expect with the issue.

[CitizenThom]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will address this with next week's changes.

Thank you!

[shadowkinz]

Make a public test version but then noone would play live haha

[TheThirdSpectre]

I unlocked the Geth Trooper in an SP, and the Vorcha in the next. I'll play as the Vorcha when he gets fixed.

[xcrunr1647]

mrcanada wrote...

That extra day helped.......

I loled

[Grunt_Platform]

Dunvi wrote...

Jesus freaking Christ.
*puts on flame retardant panties*

1. The balance change to submission net occurred September 4th, a mere month before Retaliation was released. Which means Retaliation was probably already in certification. Which means that they gave the character the right submission net, and when preparing the character for release today, they forgot that the power had been changed in the mean time. Was that an oversight? Yes. But a very understandable one. (on an unrelated note, the programmer in me is very interested in the implications this has for the underlying architecture of the character/powers but I digress)

Thanks for being a voice of reason, Dun.

I really wonder sometimes if people on BSN just.. forget that this stuff actually takes work.

Modifié par EvanKester, 16 novembre 2012 - 01:03 .