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The Teyrn of Whatever

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Since it is official that we're not going to be able to select a race other than human, it would be cool if we could select a background that gives our character some elven or dwarven heritage mixed in with our human heritage. At the very least it would give us some stat bonuses (and possible penalties). It might slightly alter how certain NPCs react to us, assuming that the issue of heritage is well-known.

In a more significant way, at least visually, it could alter the PC body model: a half-elf might be slightly slimmer and shorter (although Alistair wasn't and he's a half-elf) while a half-dwarf might be slighly shorter and thicker-set.

Remember, I am suggesting these as OPTIONAL background choices.

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Or bring back Gnomes and/or halflings and revive Baldurs Gate

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If I remember correctly then human blood is more dominant in the DA universe when it comes to mixing humans and elves.
This means that the elf part has little to no effect at all. It could give the person more pointy ears for example but the person would still be considered a human I think.

Correct me if I am wrong.

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Alistair being half-elf is never actually official. There could actually be another bastard son running around. I don't mind it, but altering height could be problematic in certain cutscenes. I doubt they would do it based on the limited resources. If half-elf and half-dwarf have the same height then I guess it would be no problem, I suppose.

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The only possible effect on them would be the slightly pointy ears like Feynriel's or Danarius' for elf children, and the human/dwarf babies are incredibly rare since both races, especially dwarves, think they are naturally superior to others.

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The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

 (although Alistair wasn't and he's a half-elf)

I must have missed something. Alistair's half-elven?

Modifié par Cthulhu42, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:18 .


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Cthulhu42 wrote...

I must have missed something. Alistair's half-elven?


It's a theory based on the books.  Maric had a kid with an elf.

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Wulfram wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I must have missed something. Alistair's half-elven?


It's a theory based on the books.  Maric had a kid with an elf.


Sounds like a filmsy theory.

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Foolsfolly wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I must have missed something. Alistair's half-elven?


It's a theory based on the books.  Maric had a kid with an elf.


Sounds like a filmsy theory.


Actually, it's implied very strongly. The fact that the elf in question was a Grey Warden who was immune to the Taint and went on to become the Grand Enchanter who is currently leading the revolt against the Chantry makes it kind of a big deal.  

Modifié par King Cousland, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:39 .


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There is evidence. Fiona, the elf in question, was a major character and had a baby with Maric. She made sure the baby would be told his mother was human and died and have Duncan watch over him. Suddenly not so flimsy.

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I'd take as a better example Feynriel. He was half Elf, but he just had just highter ceekbones, and was mostly Human in appaerance.
Alistair Elf blood is mostly supposition.

So, a half blood background would be more a psicological trait, than a phisical one. But It would be a good way to have the illusion to create a character like in Origins.
The facial trait would than be left to the player, who could recreate a mostly Elf (or Dwarf) like character, but with Human body and ears, or just a Human with the mental inheritage of one of his/her non human parent.

It would be a great compromise to make all happy. without problems for cinematic and body models.

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Nattfare wrote...

If I remember correctly then human blood is more dominant in the DA universe when it comes to mixing humans and elves.
This means that the elf part has little to no effect at all. It could give the person more pointy ears for example but the person would still be considered a human I think.

Correct me if I am wrong.

You're not. A child with one elf parent and one human parent is a human.

I think the dwarves are having a hell of a time breeding anyway, and an dwarf-human union probably wouldn't result in children since most dwarf-dwarf ones don't.

And I totally believe that Fiona is Alistair's mom.

Modifié par leborum, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:46 .


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This seems possible. You could choose a background where one of your parents was elf and the other human, and it would not mean having to have a new body-type, which was one of the reasons (I assume) of not being able to play more than one race in DAIII.

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I like how I indirectly spawned this thread, hahaha

Good on you Teyrn.

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half elf half kossith for the win!

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A halfling background could be pretty interesting and wouldn't interfere with cinematics or armor ect, I say do it. xD

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Wulfram wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I must have missed something. Alistair's half-elven?


It's a theory based on the books.  Maric had a kid with an elf.


Maric had *kids* with *elves* xD that man knows his stuff though. I don't think Beren and Luthien would even happen if Maric was born in Beleriand ><

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Evil_Jashinist wrote...

A halfling background could be pretty interesting and wouldn't interfere with cinematics or armor ect, I say do it. xD

I must say your character/avatar looks ****ing creepy.

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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Evil_Jashinist wrote...

A halfling background could be pretty interesting and wouldn't interfere with cinematics or armor ect, I say do it. xD

I must say your character/avatar looks ****ing creepy.

Like an anorexic Misa-Misa.

Modifié par Todd23, 14 novembre 2012 - 11:25 .


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King Cousland wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I must have missed something. Alistair's half-elven?


It's a theory based on the books.  Maric had a kid with an elf.


Sounds like a filmsy theory.


Actually, it's implied very strongly. The fact that the elf in question was a Grey Warden who was immune to the Taint and went on to become the Grand Enchanter who is currently leading the revolt against the Chantry makes it kind of a big deal.  


Wow did not know Fiona did that in Dragon Age: Asunder her and Anders might get along well, if she does turn out to be Alistair mother (which i hop she is) then it's going to one heck of a family reunion, back on topic it would be interesting to have the option to pick a specific background for are character

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I never thought Slim Couldry looked especially elf like either.  I think "elf blooded" could have a lot of potential as a background.

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I never noticed Slim Couldry say those things...well, that means I should start a new Warden. Maybe this tima I'll try the Elf Mage...

well, if Slim is a half blood, that would mean Half Elf aren't slim as Elfs, so there isn't even the excuse of the slight difference in body tipe.

And now that I think about it, Feynriel may have simply his (Human) father's same hight ceekbones. that man was quite slim too.

so, it would just be more "psicological" difference, than a phisical one, but a Hal Elf background would be a way to have something Elven in our character, and not just a simple Human background.

It would be great to have a street rat background.

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this is a great idea it will also stop BSN bashing bioware, if just for a second Image IPB

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David Gaider has commented on the question of ethnicity in another thread, stating that no ethnicity or specific skin colour will be tied in to the character we will be playing. However, I wonder if this means that half-breed backgrounds are completely out of the question? It might mean that nobody ever makes reference to the character's half-breed status, which would be a bit of a shame, but wouldn't necessarily prevent them from having a character with stat bonuses (and possible penalties), IMHO.

Also, as the question of half-dwarves... assuming humans can successfully breed with dwarves, there is no reason to assume that such a mix would be common. Such a background being available to players doesn't necessarily imply that there are many of them. In fact, the main character having a such a rare background would be cool for reason of scarcity alone!

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morrigan could have a children with a Dwarf Warden, even without the dark ritual, if I remember correctly.
So, it could happen. It haven't to be a very common thing, but I don't think is impossible.
Half Blooded Elf are just more common. It can happen for love, but usually one of the parents run away, because is very difficult for a Human and an Elf to find someone who would marry them in the Chantry, or simply they would never be acceted as a couple, or, I think this happen more, can happen in the bordel. A lot of Elf, women and men, work there.

Or by violence. I would not be too much surprised, if, returning in the Alienage, The City Elf Warden would find Shianni with a Half Breed child. And we know the Warden's story wasn't a isolated case. It was isolated that he/she runned away and was saved by Duncan.

Is a compromise that would make me re think about not buy the game, actually. I really like the idea.