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Fix and buff the Shadow!

Débuté par Guest_Air Quotes_* , nov. 14 2012 07:27

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:27

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1. Shadow decloaks MUCH faster than ANY other Infiltrator after a shot. 
2. Shadow Strike sometimes stops and Shadow strikes the front of the enemy instead of going behind. That gets her killed. 
3. Not being able to Shadow Strike an enemy that is right there next to you in plain sight
4. Not being able to Shadow Strike Atlases or Possesed Scions (you know about that)

Fix these!

Now to buffs. 

50% damage reduction during Shadow Strike and Heavy Melee. 

Faster Shadow Strike, faster melee

Ability to heavy melee right after Shadow Strike. Means it already locks on the enemy for heavy melee. Combo strike in other words. 

Light melee should have a radius of 2-3 meters and hit enemies even behind you. Like Dragoons do. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:37 .

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Drayce333
Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:30

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Duration and bonus power cloak, strike for pure damage, fitness in melee and fire sword and a melee mod or get out.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:31

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Sure, why not?

I haven't seen anyone use the Shadow lately, except for one genius try to use her with a Black Widow and without Shadow Strike.

By the way, something about your avatar makes all your threads seem like satire. It's that condescending look, I think.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:32

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I agree. Swordsmen need better melee in general, and that getting ****slammed when sneaking is aggravating.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:33

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Drayce333 wrote...

Duration and bonus power cloak, strike for pure damage, fitness in melee and fire sword and a melee mod or get out.


And you get your ass handed by a Phantom who's standing in cover while you SS her, but somehow she melees you faster and stuns you. Then sync-kills you. 

Shadow Strike is a buggy mess and enemies have UNGODLY perceptions and 3x faster melee than the Shadow. 

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:34

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ZombieGambit wrote...

By the way, something about your avatar makes all your threads seem like satire. It's that condescending look, I think.


[**Vulgar language removed by mod**]

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 19 novembre 2012 - 04:21 .

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:35

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You forgot about the part where it just flat out refuses to ShadowStrike an enemy, kinda like the vanguard refuses to Charge things right in front of them.

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

I agree. Swordsmen need better melee in general, and that getting ****slammed when sneaking is aggravating.


+1

Shadow Strike should be a suprise for the enemy. What kinda of suprise it is if you get meleed back faster than you land the SS? So stupid. 

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:37

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I would be satisfied with them restoring the ability to shorten your cloak cooldown with electric slash.

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vivanto wrote...

You forgot about the part where it just flat out refuses to ShadowStrike an enemy, kinda like the vanguard refuses to Charge things right in front of them.


Added to the OP. 

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:37

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Another Air Quotes's thread, another complaint, another ugly truth of Mass Effect 3 mechanic

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:38

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MuKen wrote...

I would be satisfied with them restoring the ability to shorten your cloak cooldown with electric slash.


ES sucks too and is too slow. Both the cooldown and the animation. 

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:40

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Another Air Quotes's thread, another complaint, another ugly truth of Mass Effect 3 mechanic


Sorry if it seems that I'm whinng, but I'm just pointing out the bugs and suggesting some buffs to counter crappy Shadow Strike mechanics, cloak bugs and insane enemy reactions. 

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:41

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Only issue I've got with the shadow is the atlas shadow strike bug. Other than that, I personally don't see a need for a buff, but that's just me.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:42

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Air Quotes wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Another Air Quotes's thread, another complaint, another ugly truth of Mass Effect 3 mechanic


Sorry if it seems that I'm whinng, but I'm just pointing out the bugs and suggesting some buffs to counter crappy Shadow Strike mechanics, cloak bugs and insane enemy reactions. 

I meant no offense. Just amazed how many people didn't see that enemies are not hard to fight, they are just stupid cheaters who rely on cheap mechanics and dropped fast when you are able to learn how to counter that

Modifié par Crimson Vanguard, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:43 .

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Geth Platforms
Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:46

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not able to get stagger once your behind them? like brute dumb amor of death

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:46

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Since she can't SS an atlas or scion i've not played shadow. simply because of this fact. and she was one of my most favorite. (i know, i still can play against the other factions...reapers should be ok but geth...seems that cheaters ALWAYS see me coming...)

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:46

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...
I meant no offense. Just amazed how many people didn't see that enemies are not hard to fight, they are just stupid cheaters who rely on cheap mechanics and dropped fast when you are able to learn how to counter that



Most of the games works like that, having Dumb AI and making them "cheats" to create challenge. The Shadow sure need fixing but I'm not sure she needs a buff.

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Reizo Ryuu
Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:47

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SS > Heavy melee works fine, I do it all the time to kill gold/plat phantoms.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:48

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Imo ES should be the primer for self tech burst and SS the detonator, so you can weaken foes with ES then SS one, kill it and let the tech burst finish the others.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:49

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Air Quotes wrote...

MuKen wrote...

I would be satisfied with them restoring the ability to shorten your cloak cooldown with electric slash.


ES sucks too and is too slow. Both the cooldown and the animation. 


Yes...that was the whole point of what I said.  It's too slow to shorten the cloak cooldown now, it used to be much faster and great for this purpose.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:49

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m4dh4xx0r wrote...

Only issue I've got with the shadow is the atlas shadow strike bug. Other than that, I personally don't see a need for a buff, but that's just me.


You don't feel that it's strange to get meleed or shot in Shadow Strike? You don't feel that it's strange how psychic the enemies are? 

I mean if I was a Centurion who's shooting some guy in front and some chick with a sword uncloaks behind me to slash me, I would need time to react or to even hear her trough all that gunfire. 

Instead he turns around in a milisecond and melees you. Or that Ravager craps itself IN ADVANCE, while you travel. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:55 .

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:51

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Not to mention how squishy she already is.

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:51

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In before someone suggests the OP go back to bronze. <_<

The shadow is in a really poor state with all the bugs and weird behavioural stuff affecting her.  Unfortunately it would take a patch to fix and well, you know how long the last ones took!  (Edit: the Acolyte charge-up behaviour change was also an indirect Shadow nerf for those of us that used that playstyle, incidentally.)

Any suggestions for how she could be improved through weekly balance changes?


ZombieGambit wrote...
I haven't seen anyone use the Shadow lately, except for one genius try to use her with a Black Widow and without Shadow Strike.


Was that Zoetropes?  :D  She uses a BW on her Shadow, but she rocks it pretty hard.  And she still has Shadow Strike.  Not my cup of tea, but can't argue with the results...

Modifié par Sihmm, 14 novembre 2012 - 07:52 .

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Posté 14 novembre 2012 - 07:51

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Another Air Quotes's thread, another complaint, another ugly truth of Mass Effect 3 mechanic


Sorry if it seems that I'm whinng, but I'm just pointing out the bugs and suggesting some buffs to counter crappy Shadow Strike mechanics, cloak bugs and insane enemy reactions. 

I meant no offense. Just amazed how many people didn't see that enemies are not hard to fight, they are just stupid cheaters who rely on cheap mechanics and dropped fast when you are able to learn how to counter that


I know you meant no offense. But it's true that I create a lot of threads and request stuff in them. People may see that as whining or my inability to play. 
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