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Steelcan

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The endings to ME3.  I'm not sure that there is anything nearly as divisive amoung the Mass Effect fanbase as the final choice that Shepard makes.  But, I'm not making this topic to discuss the pros and cons of each ending or to slam any of them in particular.  I'm making this thread because I'm curious to know why people chose their ending.

I'll go ahead and start.

I picked Destroy for several reasons.
  First and foremost I picked it because I reject the Catalyst and it's beliefs.  The Catalyst maintains that the Reaper Cycles are necessary to preserve organic and synthetic life.  Without the Reapers to intervene organics are doomed to extinction by their creations.  I have several reasons for believing this. 

- Reaper interventionism.  In ME3 the problem of synthetic organic onflict is brought up in two places, most notably by the Geth and Quarians.  It is also brought up by Javik.  He mentions a war called the Metacon War.  He describes it as a galaxy consuming conflict between organics and synthetics.  The Protheans in order to win the war tried to unite all organic life in the galaxy against the machines.  Javik says that they were succesful and they had turned the tide when the Reapers arrived.  This is very similar to the Quarian/Geth conflict because in both cases the organics were winning the war untl the Reapers interfered.  To me this proves that organics are not doomed to extinction at the hands of synthetics.

- Peace between the Quarians and Geth.  This one seems pretty self-explanatory.  It proves that synthetics and organics can get along.  Whether the peace will last is another matter entirely.  The point is peace is possible without having to kill off both sides.  This proves that Reaper Cycles are unnecessary to keep the peace.

Another reason I pick Destroy is because I am a strong believer in letting nature take its own course.  We should allow the evolutionary process of natural selection to sort out the problems of the galaxy.  We should not impose an artificially created solution to a problem of nature.  This parallels the Salarian influence on the Krogan and the deployment of the Genophage.  It may have been a good idea at the time, but in the end it should be up to nature to decide the fate of species.  Essentially we do not have to go around imposing our own will on other beings.

- You may argue that my picking Destroy is hypocritical in this case because it kills the Geth and Reapers off.  It seemingly invalidates them as living entities worthy of respect.  I disagre with this.  The Reapers have made a choice that does not allow for peaceful coexistence without either fundamentally altering every living being (Synthesis) or forcing an invalid conclusion on them to suit others (Control).  I will not be responsible for changing every single living being without ther own consent, even iif it results in a good thing, and I do not think that changing the Catalyst is the solution to its "problem".  I think the solution to its "problem" is to eliminate the Catalyst.

- Another reason that I do not see Destroy as hypocritical for wanting to maintain life is that I also see the ends being justified.  I'm sorry to say it but I would rather sacrifice the Geth and Reapers than enslave them (Control) or change all life in the galaxy to suit them (Synthesis).  As terrible as it ma seem to some of you, I think that their sacrifice is worth it in the end.

Those are the two main reasons that I pick Destroy over the other endings.  I do not accept the Catalyst and its rasonings, and I believe in the right for life to self determinate and not be subject to the wills of another.  I also have reasons for not picking Control, Synthesis, or Refuse, but that is not what this topic is for.  I want to to know why you picked one ending over the others.

Hopefullt this will not get buried and we can all get a little perspective on why people made the decisions they did.

Thoughts?

Modifié par Steelcan, 14 novembre 2012 - 10:09 .


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dorktainian

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destroy ftw. the others are indoctrination / reaper victory. The synthetic argument is a red herring.

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teh DRUMPf!!

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inb4 cos im not an idot.

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Steelcan

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Please no bashing the other endings. I want to know why you picked a certain ending. Not why you think others are bad.

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I think we've comented this several times now. I agree with you in why I chose destroy. I know it's not much of feedback but since we already know each other.

But still I find worthy posting that I agree with you on this one

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Well, I picked Destroy, not because Shepard lived -although it did influence it a bit- but because I've been arguing with the Illusive Man about Control: William Shepard is not a hypocrite so he won't choose Control.

Then, for me, Synthesis is plain wrong -simple as that. I won't force everyone into the same DNA. Then there is Refusal, which I do not agree with, I won't sacrifice the whole galaxy to disagree with the Catalyst.

So I chose Destroy. It was hard, yes, I had to kill the Geth and EDI but it was for the greater good. It seems my Paragon faltered in the end.

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*woops, the first post didn't show up, removed this*

Modifié par Lieber, 14 novembre 2012 - 10:20 .


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I pick destroy because that's what I set out to do from the beginning.

I believe that chosing control or synthesis means you've been indoctrinated.

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Destroy is the lesser of the three evils.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Destroy is the lesser of the three evils.


Then why is Puzzle Theory in your signature?Image IPB

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Replace mankind&humans with 'species of galaxy', organics, whatever and the names like Targatt&Sariff with Reapers&Catalyst and you got a whole epilogue explaining why I pick destroy and not.. synthesis or control.

Basically, freedom of choice, once and for all. First Leviathans, then Catalyst and his Reapers dictated the course of the galaxy. I'm not letting anyone, anything influence it any longer.

Maybe the future will prove my faith wrong, but...at least I know I'm not the one responsible.

Modifié par LilLino, 14 novembre 2012 - 10:31 .


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The Night Mammoth

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Because the ones BioWare tried to sell me are all sh*t.

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Because shooting the catalyst is hilarious.

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Destroy because it was the whole purpose of the trilogy: to destroy the reapers.

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Mumba1511 wrote...

Because shooting the catalyst is hilarious.


+1 Image IPB



SO BE IT!

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I pick Synthesis because it results in the most exotic and interesting future of the galaxy, because it carries a spirit of advancement and ascension, and because it represents the theme of embracing the unknown.

(Debunking Synthesis myth #12878736: if you replace DNA with something else serving the same purpose only with more functions, people will remain as different from each other as they were before, and it will even lay the groundwork for *more* diversity. Hint: we are all made of the same DNA, even now. Only the information it encodes differs)

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I pick Synthesis because it results in the most exotic and interesting future of the galaxy, because it carries a spirit of advancement and ascension, and because it represents the theme of embracing the unknown.


That is actually the only argument for synthesis that I can agree on... if it really isn't a trap.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

Destroy because it was the whole purpose of the trilogy: to destroy the reapers.


"In the end, what does it matter; your survival lies in stopping them..."


Many ways to stop someone. All options viable.

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You're aware of what the Puzzle Theory is, right?

SUCCESSFUL Refusal ending through release of all the ME3 DLC. Right now, Refuse sucks and I don't even consider it among my choices, so that is why I pick Destroy.

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Refuse
What that fourth option did - that ability to refuse not only on a textual level but a metatextual one - was to allow me to reject the game itself, within the game itself. It was an admission by the creators that, for some, their vision was unacceptable. It was a subtle form of humility, masked though it might be by the distorted, petulant exclamation by the Catalyst at my decision, and it allowed me to act with the finality I desired. I no longer wished to be a part of this story, so twisted and unrecognizable.


I was allowed to draw a line. I took them up on their offer.


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OperatingWookie wrote...

"In the end, what does it matter; your survival lies in stopping them..."


Many ways to stop someone. All options viable.


Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps. Synthesis does not heal anything unless consider diversity an illness. Not remove anything dangerous either. Implications... unpleasant.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

You're aware of what the Puzzle Theory is, right?

SUCCESSFUL Refusal ending through release of all the ME3 DLC. Right now, Refuse sucks and I don't even consider it among my choices, so that is why I pick Destroy.


I suggest connecting all theories together with Bioware's writing to make everyone happy.

I say, that Indoctrinaction Theory is true, Shep resists indoctrination, then puzzle theory happens.
But in the end Synthesis happens regardless because it's inevitable.

Boom, everybody is happy, both the SUPREME-TOTAL-REAL fans and  HIGHLY Artistic-Integrated Bioware oh and EA too coz you just spent 50$ on DLC to a 25$ game. 


No honestly, damn these theories, Destroy for the win..

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I pick Synthesis because it results in the most exotic and interesting future of the galaxy, because it carries a spirit of advancement and ascension, and because it represents the theme of embracing the unknown.

(Debunking Synthesis myth #12878736: if you replace DNA with something else serving the same purpose only with more functions, people will remain as different from each other as they were before, and it will even lay the groundwork for *more* diversity. Hint: we are all made of the same DNA, even now. Only the information it encodes differs)


I would argue that Destroy results in the most unknown future.  The guiding presence that has been around for millenia is suddenly gone.  There is no gaurantee as to what will happen next.  Maybe the Catalyst was right and we are doomed to an eternal synthetic/organic conflict.  MAybe not and we are ushering in a brighter future than anyone could dream of.

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MEHEM mod.
I hate the idea of choosing to wipe out Geth and murder EDI because it is less horrible option among those your adversary allows you to choose from.
Makes me feel like a backstabbing hypocritical phony.
Mod solves this issue, thus it is my ending.

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Argolas wrote...

Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps. Synthesis does not heal anything unless consider diversity an illness. Not remove anything dangerous either.


It removes the harvesting cycles. Not diversity.