Why do you pick your ending?
#101
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 07:07
I like giant lasers.
#102
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 07:36
#103
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 07:44
It is the only ending where the civilizations of the galaxy actually win the Reaper War.
Refuse is a total defeat.
Synthesis and Control are stalemates.
#104
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 07:47
#105
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 07:47
DominusVita wrote...
I chose control. Considering logic and sense seemed to dissolve during the end anyhow, I may as well become the mastermind of countless unfeeling killing machines with giant lasers.
I like giant lasers.
I must admit, I was really tempted by the prospect of becoming God-Emperor of the Milky Way. Sure, these things usually work out really badly in the long run (whether that's five years or over 100,000 years), but there was much cackling potential too.
Now if only the Control ending could've given me a Golden Throne and some Inquisitors, I'd be sold. I've already got the space marines and mind-control capabilities.
#106
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 07:49
#107
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 08:18
For some reason I trust the Catalyst was telling the truth, yet don't trust myself with the power of control.
#108
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 08:49
#109
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 09:05
#110
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 09:32
#111
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 09:41
But I would make that choice.
I choose destruction; I will not force a synthetic existence unto anyone who did not choose it. I chose to destroy the reapers, to use their own technology against them and eradicate the cycle forever. In all three endings there is sacrifice; some are bigger then others. It was sacrifice freedom to let humanity go into it's future free, sacrifice the freedom of choice, or sacrifice synthetics. One of those three can be rebuilt eventually. Two can't.
I spent years fighting the reapers; the words of one synthetic are not going to change that.
"Then we'll do it our own way. I won't let fear compromise who I am." -Shepard
Modifié par Dr. Akairos, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:46 .
#112
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 11:05
Turn out badly? Only in stories created to reinforce a sheep mentality. I may use them to keep the bickering of the many at a low level, but I don't subscribe to them.Sable Rhapsody wrote...
DominusVita wrote...
I chose control. Considering logic and sense seemed to dissolve during the end anyhow, I may as well become the mastermind of countless unfeeling killing machines with giant lasers.
I like giant lasers.
I must admit, I was really tempted by the prospect of becoming God-Emperor of the Milky Way. Sure, these things usually work out really badly in the long run (whether that's five years or over 100,000 years), but there was much cackling potential too.
Now if only the Control ending could've given me a Golden Throne and some Inquisitors, I'd be sold. I've already got the space marines and mind-control capabilities.
(*tsk tsk* Control!Shepard is supposed to be above such superficial trappings)
#113
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 11:07
Ever.
Period.
It says so itself.
#114
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 11:17
There is continuity of identity. The Control entity is Shepard in the same way I'm still thinking of my past child self as "I".
Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 novembre 2012 - 11:22 .
#115
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 11:24
Ieldra2 wrote...
Turn out badly? Only in stories created to reinforce a sheep mentality. I may use them to keep the bickering of the many at a low level, but I don't subscribe to them.Sable Rhapsody wrote...
DominusVita wrote...
I chose control. Considering logic and sense seemed to dissolve during the end anyhow, I may as well become the mastermind of countless unfeeling killing machines with giant lasers.
I like giant lasers.
I must admit, I was really tempted by the prospect of becoming God-Emperor of the Milky Way. Sure, these things usually work out really badly in the long run (whether that's five years or over 100,000 years), but there was much cackling potential too.
Now if only the Control ending could've given me a Golden Throne and some Inquisitors, I'd be sold. I've already got the space marines and mind-control capabilities.
(*tsk tsk* Control!Shepard is supposed to be above such superficial trappings)
Based on what?
#116
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 11:37
Good luck with that.
Modifié par Han Shot First, 15 novembre 2012 - 11:37 .
#117
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 11:56
Ieldra2 wrote...
(*tsk tsk* Control!Shepard is supposed to be above such superficial trappings)
Depends on the Shepard, I think. Personally, I find Renegade!ReaperShep absolutely f***ing terrifying. And also kind of awesome, which is why I was tempted to pick it and run roughshod over the universe.
I'm not saying becoming invincible, immortal, and indispensible God-Emperor of the galaxy ALWAYS ends badly, just that it ends badly MOST of the time
Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 15 novembre 2012 - 11:57 .
#118
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:03
#119
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:04
ME2 still wanted them dead (slightly less so about the Geth)
ME3 - Killed 'em all. Job done. And happen to survive as a bonus.
#120
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:26
For one, I don't trust the Catalyst - I'm not necessarily saying it's lying, just that I don't agree with it's logic or it's conclusions. This is the logic which caused it to believe that exterminating all advanced forms of life countless times over the course of millions of years was a good decision. The Catalyst shows no empathy for organic races, and no remorse for it's actions, so I cannot believe it truly acts in our best interests. Which means I can rule out Synthesis, because Synthesis is entire a product of the Catalyst's logic and calculations. It is the Catalyst's "perfect solution" - and we know first hand just how horrifying it's orginal "solution" turned out to be.
Control? Paragon or Renegade, I just spent the last ten minutes trying to convince TIM it was a pipe dream. I also have first hand experience of how the Reapers bend organics to their will, and have serious reservations about how exactly I will manage to Control the Reapers if the process ends up killing me. People don't Control the Reapers - they Control you. I'm not about to flip flop on that belief simply because the Reaper's controlling AI assures me I can.
Refuse? It's inaction. The races of the galaxy threw all their resources into building the Crucible and giving us this opportunity. I'm not going to throw it away, and condemn everyone to the harvest.
That leaves Destroy - ironically enough, the solution my colleagues and squad have been advising me to take all game. "Dead Reapers are how we win this." "We destroy them, or they destroy us." "We take off, nuke the site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure". (ohwait).
And it's true. Destroying the Reapers are the only way to win this. The only way to ensure this cycle's survival. Every other "solution" simply escalates the risk. Use Occam's Razor, and you get the truth.
Refuse = Reapers still exist.
Control = Reaper still exist.
Synthesis = Reapers still exist.
Destroy = The Reapers are gone. The cycle ends.
#121
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:29
Han Shot First wrote...
Control Shep is nothing more than Catalyst 2.0.
Good luck with that.
Just like Synthesis is nothing more than the Catalyst's Solution 2.0.
And we know just how abhorrent and horrific it's first solution was...
#122
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:32
Empty assertions against evidence from the ECHan Shot First wrote...
Control Shep is nothing more than Catalyst 2.0.
Good luck with that.
It is infused by Shepard's values and personality. The EC epilogue says so. In other words, it's as much like Shepard as it's possible for a god-like AI to be. The entity says "The man/woman I was", thus there is continuity of identity in the mind if not in the body. There is not a man or a woman anymore but it is still what "I once was". Similar to the way we're all not children anymore but once were.
There is continuity of identity. The Control entity is Shepard in the same way I'm still thinking of my past child self as "I".
You're free to believe what you want of course...
#123
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:36
I wasn't completely serious. RenegadeControlShep might just go that way. I have a femShep with a compatible attitude....not yet played her through ME3 though. Too many dead in ME2 (Miranda, Jacob and Jack survived the SM) and ME3 is dark enough, I lacked the motivation.Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Depends on the Shepard, I think. Personally, I find Renegade!ReaperShep absolutely f***ing terrifying. And also kind of awesome, which is why I was tempted to pick it and run roughshod over the universe.Ieldra2 wrote...
(*tsk tsk* Control!Shepard is supposed to be above such superficial trappings)
I'm not saying becoming invincible, immortal, and indispensible God-Emperor of the galaxy ALWAYS ends badly, just that it ends badly MOST of the timeBut hey, if those of us who pick Destroy can headcanon it happier, who says Synthesis and Control can't?
And of course, being god-Empress of the galaxy is awesome...
#124
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:43
#125
Posté 15 novembre 2012 - 12:46
Ieldra2 wrote...
And of course, being god-Empress of the galaxy is awesome...
Like I said, I was sorely tempted. And with the right Shepard, Control just might work--my primary FemShep would've made a great god-Empress. Unfortunately, I have this nasty habit of giving up ultimate power and transcendence in video games for love. I've been doing it since Baldur's Gate.
Damn you, Garrus!
Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 15 novembre 2012 - 12:46 .





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