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[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Johnnie Walker wrote...

Oh I love history, but obviously not every does. It's not necessarily a bad nor a good thing though. History repeats itself in the end, but sometimes it does prove worthy to learn it. Learn from the mistakes of others. I don't dwell on the past, but I analyze it so that I don't make the same mistake(s). Some people learn it, but don't understand it thus they tend to not like it.

Some young people don't know much about history because they didn't live through it like older people. They probably know about it and probably know the gist, but that's really it unless they're actually interested in it.

Everyone is different. Like some people think it's pointless to read fictional novels, but the thing is just about every story, whether it be true or not, has some kind of meaning. Whether you realize it or not.

Some people don't like science thus they don't know much about it because they have no interest in learning it.

The people that don't know much about history have no interest in learning it.

Age is just a number, it doesn't determine the maturity or intelligence level of someone.
They say older people have just experienced more and that they may be the case, but that doesn't mean that they learned anything. And a young person can experience a lot. It just depends on your past, how you analyze situations, whether or not you learn from other people's experiences, your perspective, the list goes on.

Learn from the past and look to the future.

I like this post. I like this poster. Sensible, mature, and intelligent.

Thanks, I suppose. I just speak my mind is all.

[Wolfspawn]

History is awesome.
History classes suck some major ass.

Modifié par bob_20000, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:21 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

bob_20000 wrote...
History is awesome.
History classes suck some major ass.

The later really depends on the type of teacher or professor teaching the subject.

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

ReconTeam wrote...

bob_20000 wrote...
History is awesome.
History classes suck some major ass.

The later really depends on the type of teacher or professor teaching the subject.

[Binary_Helix 1]

Monica21 wrote...

This doesn't have anything to do with idealism vs. realism. It's not even really about whether history is interesting but instead whether it's relevant.

What if your wife-beater neighbor isn't a wife-beater but a skinhead? Doesn't affect you, right? Okay then. He can be a skinhead as long as he doesn't hurt anyone because the law lets him. What if he runs for city council? Nobody cares that he's a skinhead because they've decided not to care, and because he can't really enact any policy at a city council level that that would reinforce his worldview. Not really fine at this point (IMO), but the guy still hasn't done anything illegal.

But say the guy's popular. People like him. He's got charisma. He moves up in government. Nobody's paid attention to a manifesto he wrote 20 years ago or a group he was (or is) part of because it doesn't have anything to do with taxes. (And because it's history and therefore boring.) The problem, and the historical relevance, of this guy then becomes at what point he's able to enact legislation giving his own viewpoint relevance and legality. Suddenly people of different races can't marry. Races can't interact. Gays are second-class citizens. Blacks are disenfranchised.

The relevance is that this has happened before. The point being made earlier is that you may not care that your neighbor is a wife-beater, and it may not personally affect you. But by the time it does affect you or someone you love, it may be too late to do anything about it simply because you've decided not to pay attention.

Communities have been destroyed more by low income housing and other forms of social engineering rather than imaginary skinheads rising to power. Just look at many of America's once great cities which now are ghetto nightmares. Economics has little to do with it as the nearby suburbs are prosperous. They'e also *ahem* less diverse. Social order exists for a reason.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:35 .

[bmwcrazy]

Emzamination wrote...

Giving a homeless man a dollar to eat doesn't take much either but to that man you're a hero.

Your point is?

[ObserverStatus]

VirtualSoldier27 wrote...
they cant even tell you what year Pearl Harbor was,

mmm... 1492?

[Wolfspawn]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

bob_20000 wrote...
History is awesome.
History classes suck some major ass.

The later really depends on the type of teacher or professor teaching the subject.

Yep. My favorite teacher and one of the people who really helped me out in high school was my 11th grade history teacher. Learned quite a bit about the world that year.

I don't hate history classes, to be honest. It depends on the teacher I suppose. What I'm referring to is the horribly, watered-down as a river version of "history" one can find in %88.8769 of the textbooks out there. The version of history that makes any given war feel like good vs. evil bulls**t. Especially The American Civil War and World War II. Hitler was a horrible man, don't get me wrong, but he had MOTIVES. History books make it seem like he killed millions of people just because he could.

Modifié par bob_20000, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:40 .

[Binary_Helix 1]

mr_afk wrote...

Just out of interest, what is it about 'history' that you want people to know about?

Human nature is mostly fixed and unchangeable.

That utopian schemes have created a lot of misery.

That tradition and hierarchy exist for good reasons.

Strife and competition is the way of life from womb to tomb.

Common sense, right? Wrong. We live in a bizzaro age.
 

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:48 .

[rwilli80]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

"Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it."

Except, it doesn't matter if the average 20 something learns history. The people in charge are the ones who repeat it, we're just along for the ride.

Except those 20 somethings who don't know history will some day be the people in charge.

[Ninja Stan]

No political threads, please.

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