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Applepie_Svk wrote...

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Refuse = Reapers still exist.
Control = Reapers still exist.
Synthesis = Reapers still exist.
Destroy = Reapers gone, cycle ends forever.

Destroy = Holding the line.


For IT...

Refuse - bullet betwen the eyes
Control - become husk
Synthesis - become husk
Destroy - WAKE UP SHEPUUURD :D


Yes, go for IT.

and think about this BS in the game plot regarding our so-called "choices matter"

* Why was Kal'Reegar killed off, and one of the weakest characters in the game made an admiral? I'm looking right at Tali'Zorah, who deferred every major decision to Shepard. She never excercised her authority as an admiral once, not one. She was behaving like a pre-pubescent kid which is why I continually underestimated her age throughout the series. She was a weakling instead of addressing Gerrel with any authority on Rannoch she was pleading with him. Kal'Reegar should have been made admiral to replace Rael'Zorah instead, and should have accompanied you on that mission instead of Tali. Reegar would have made a difference. Tali? She put the whole thing on Shepard's shoulders. Talimancers should sleep well with this tonight. (Tali, stop being a little girl and be a damned admiral!) This left Xen and Gerrel as the two most powerful leaders in the Flotilla. == Thank you Mac Walters for ruining this story arc.

* So they make supporting the Quarians a "RENEGADE" choice and supporting the Geth a "PARAGON" choice, or Peace a "PARAGON" choice. Why? Because anything that supports the Geth sets up this Sophie's Choice ending they have in mind so you get to destroy one of your allies along with the Reapers!

That was the only purpose of making it this way.

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Reapers are too dangerous not to destroy them. Basically no costs are too high to achieve that goal. Many here seem to think the same. That's why destroy is most popular.

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 Having played three times with each ending; I plan to choose destruction for any future playthroughs.
1.) The cost is paid up front. I destroy the reapers, end the cycle. I have destroyed synthetics as that cost. But more can be made. 
2.) In all three of my sheppards, I cannot help but keep my IRL philosophy out of it. The freedom of choice. Destruction is the only ending where I do not strip it away from trillions of sentient beings in one fell swoop. 
- In control I ascend to become the governing body of the reapers. I chose control during a paragade run and as such the new reaper!sheppard was based upon his mind. Good, helpful, and dedicated to the cause. However in the end it is not sheppard, it is the reaper AI based on sheppard, and with it's limitless processing power will inevitably come to decistions that will activly nfluence the galaxy or do so merely by existing. Species of the galaxy will continue to develop along the path of reaper technology and will become dependent on sheppard. This is a good ending that will save many lives but will ultimately restrict and hinder the galaxy at large. 
-In Synthesis I have decided to let myself be controlled by the Catalyst into performing an act I could never bring myself to do in real life; forcibly inflict change unto their body. I am violating their ultimate natural right,the freedom to choose what to do with their own body. While I desire cybernetic ascendancy not everyone would and it is imperitive that we do not slide down the slippery slope of justifying actions with such widespread changes less I become like the reapers themselves, changing galaxies because of one decision that was not their's to make.

- In destruction I end the cycle and destroy the reapers. In this action I have freed countless trillions, quintillions, and infinite number of beings from the reapers in some form; whether it be a perpetual influence from reaper!sheppard or influence from the reapers hemselves. Just like the geth, freedom from the reapers and their influence will allow the races of te galaxy to develope new technology that the reapers did not forsee. I have created diversity that will allow each race to develope it's own unique ideas and technology so that the galaxy as a whole may be better for it. We'll do it our own way; I will not let fear compromise who I am.

3.) The last reason why I like detruction.....sheppard lives. ^___^

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Reapers need to be got rid of.
Galaxy is left free to develop as it should
Nice extra bonus that Shep survives

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Reapers die, Shepard lives. They're my main reasons.



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fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

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Eterna5 wrote...


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 


I dunno; despite the incredible level of malleability you possess over your individual sheppard; preventing/preparing for/destroying the reapers has been a pretty consistant theme. 

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Refuse = Reapers still exist.
Control = Reapers still exist.
Synthesis = Reapers still exist.
Destroy = Reapers gone, cycle ends forever.

Destroy = Holding the line.


For IT...

Refuse - bullet betwen the eyes
Control - become husk
Synthesis - become husk
Destroy - WAKE UP SHEPUUURD :D


Yes, go for IT. and think about this BS in the game plot regarding our so-called "choices matter"


Rather IT or something which make sense instead of what we got now... :lol: and  about "choices matter" ? Ah, please we have already dismissed that claim...:happy: Whole ME3 is a big pile of choice are meaningless but your EMS matter.

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:57 .


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Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Applepie_Svk wrote...


Rather IT or something which make sense instead of what we got now... :lol: and  about "choices matter" ? Ah, please we have already dismissed that claim...:happy: Whole ME3 is a big pile of choice are meaningless.


What we got makes a lot of sense (maybe except Synthesis, but that's just my opinion) It's just you don't like it.
And choices actually matter to some degree, but whoever expected the game to totally rewrite itself was a fool to be honest. Bioware simply had no time to do that.

 Oh an IT and most community's ideas for the ending are no better than what we got, most of them actually suck imho.
It's just whatever a BSN member does > ending for like 70% of people here, no matter how crappy. 

Modifié par LilLino, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:00 .


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Dr. Akairos wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 


I dunno; despite the incredible level of malleability you possess over your individual sheppard; preventing/preparing for/destroying the reapers has been a pretty consistant theme. 


I don't recall my Shepard stating she wanted to Destroy them in ME2. I heard the word stop a lot though. 

So like I've said, your self imposed goal for the Reapers is not every Shepards goal for the Reapers. 

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If it didn't kill Edi/Geth, I would go destroy. better safe than sorry. Wiping out Edi/Geth is unacceptable, however, so I compromise on Control.

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LilLino wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Saying that Shepard goals is stopping the Reapers is common attempt in lines of some pro-enders to stop ****ing about synthesis and control :whistle:

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Eterna5 wrote...

I don't recall my Shepard stating she wanted to Destroy them in ME2. I heard the word stop a lot though. 

So like I've said, your self imposed goal for the Reapers is not every Shepards goal for the Reapers. 


"This thing is an abomination. How do we destroy it?"

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Why is destruction ending the most popular?

Emphasis on the word "most". It isn't popular but there are more serious problems (in some cases significantly more serious) with the other options.

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Malanek999 wrote...

Why is destruction ending the most popular?

Emphasis on the word "most". It isn't popular but there are more serious problems (in some cases significantly more serious) with the other options.


I would ask... why even in Vanilla destruction ending had 3 possibile outcomes ?

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LilLino wrote...

Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers


Nope.

and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.


That's because he was a traitor to hummanity.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.


So? 

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


There are 3 options, you dismissing two and telling other people they don't stop the Reapers doesn't make them invalid, it just makes you an arrogant ****. 
 

Modifié par Eterna5, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:03 .


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Applepie_Svk wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Saying that Shepard goals is stopping the Reapers is common attempt in lines of some pro-enders to stop ****ing about synthesis and control :whistle:


 It's also used as an exscuse for dumb as bricks destroyers to justify their war crimes. 

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Eterna5 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Saying that Shepard goals is stopping the Reapers is common attempt in lines of some pro-enders to stop ****ing about synthesis and control :whistle:


 It's also used as an exscuse for dumb as bricks destroyers to justify their war crimes. 


Because homogenize whole universe or left it to mercy of some AI isn´t treachery ?  entertaining like always...

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Eterna5 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Saying that Shepard goals is stopping the Reapers is common attempt in lines of some pro-enders to stop ****ing about synthesis and control :whistle:


 It's also used as an exscuse for dumb as bricks destroyers to justify their war crimes. 

oh ow

Maybe it's dumb, but is it any dumber than agreeing with what main antagonist was trying to do? Or deciding to re-write all organic matter in the galaxy for no reason?

Modifié par Finn the Jakey, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:11 .


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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Saying that Shepard goals is stopping the Reapers is common attempt in lines of some pro-enders to stop ****ing about synthesis and control :whistle:


 It's also used as an exscuse for dumb as bricks destroyers to justify their war crimes. 


Because homogenize whole universe or left it to mercy of some AI isn´t treachery ?  entertaining like always...


Hey just saying, you guys aren't the saints you claim to be. 

It may be dumb, but is it any dumber than agreeing with the main villain? Or deciding to re-write all organic matter in the galaxy for no reason?


How is control agreeing with the Catalyst? You delete him and take his place. And maybe if you'd have stopped drooling at your screen and actually payed attention you'd know why Synthesis is important. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:13 .


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Eterna5: Come on...it's one thing to argue your reasons for why you think Control is the better choice...but it's absurd to sit there and say that Shepard hasn't been trying to "destroy" the reapers from the beginning.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

LilLino wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

fil009 wrote...

Destroying the Reapers has been Shepard's goal for several games. EDI and Geth are unfortunate casualties of course. Control is indoctrination. Synthesis is intrusive and suspect. Refuse is blah.

If I must take the Catalyst's words as true Destroy is the best option.


No it wasn't. That is a self imposed goal you placed upon your Shepard. 

 
Bullcrap, all dialogue options but one in ME3 is Shepard wanting to destroy the Reapers and calling Illusive Man a traitor(paragon) or idiot (renegade) for his actions and scheme for controlling the Reapers.

Synthesis also was never spoken nor considered prior to the talking to Catalyst.

And I don't see any other ways of 'stopping' the Reapers.


Saying that Shepard goals is stopping the Reapers is common attempt in lines of some pro-enders to stop ****ing about synthesis and control :whistle:


 It's also used as an exscuse for dumb as bricks destroyers to justify their war crimes. 

What can i say... This is how Bioware guys wrote the endings. One is worse then the other and yet some seem to defend those.
Good thing there is MEHEM now. 

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CDR David Shepard wrote...

Eterna5: Come on...it's one thing to argue your reasons for why you think Control is the better choice...but it's absurd to sit there and say that Shepard hasn't been trying to "destroy" the reapers from the beginning.


No it's not. "stop and "defeat" doesn't mean genocide. That's a self imposefd goal brought on by you. 

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Eterna5 wrote...


How is control agreeing with the Catalyst? You delete him and take his place. And maybe if you'd have stopped drooling at your screen and actually payed attention you'd know why Synthesis is important. 


Your headcanon ? 

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


How is control agreeing with the Catalyst? You delete him and take his place. And maybe if you'd have stopped drooling at your screen and actually payed attention you'd know why Synthesis is important. 


Your headcanon ? 


He even says he won't enjoy being replaced by you.