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[Caratinoid]

Asari Adept is one of my favorite biotics. She used to have a reputation of a powerful biotic but because of her low shields and the fact that both throw and warp can easily be dodged by enemies she is seen as a less powerfull character than she really is (and even as obsolete by some). I've never seen anyone use her in platinum, never! I usually take stasis bubble, skip shields and use a more serious weapon but this time I wanted to do an acolyte only run. Used quite a few medigels but I broke my personal time record this time.

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Build: no stasis, max shields and max biotic explosion damage.
Weapons: Acolyte
Objectives were: retrieve, devices, retrieve.
Is it currently the fastest solo run with this character against reapers?

Modifié par Caratinoid, 15 novembre 2012 - 08:41 .

[The Aesthetic Ghant]

Hey man that's pretty cool, keep doing your thang boy.

[Fade9wayz]

Good work

There will always be a soft spot in my heart for the original Asari Adept ^^

[Shyde01]

Very cool run. Congrats.

I'm trying to figure out a useful build for her. Not sure if you showed it in the vid, but I'd be curious to know how you spec'd her. I liked your technique.

Lately I've been going 6/6/6/0/6 (expose & pierce), with a reegar & warp ammo, oddly enough. About 105% CD. I use BEs at range, warping things as they close then using reegar. Since stasis is only used as a panic button, I might respec 3/6/6/5/6 for better CDs and power damage. Your input is welcome.

[Topographer]

Anything with warp is automatically good, but I still think she is not among the better characters anymore. The reason for that (among others) is Grenade Capacity V, removing the death requirement on tech combos, and that BE nerf a long time ago.

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

[longgamma]

Impressed by the time! Goddess is pretty difficult to solo, a couple of device hacks are extremely painful. Good job sir. +42 internets to you!

[longgamma]

Topographer wrote...

Anything with warp is automatically good, but I still think she is not among the better characters anymore. The reason for that (among others) is Grenade Capacity V, removing the death requirement on tech combos, and that BE nerf a long time ago.

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

Also stentron, the addition of the dragoon was the deathknell for her. AA with scoped Paladins were so common in Cerberus gold matches, and I am struggling to remember a single gold pug against cerberus that the setup post Retaliation.

The AV outclasses her, cluster grenades + statis bubble can handle any faction.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Great job man

[Fortack]

Well done!

I think you could even be a little faster if you completely ignore banshee until everything else is death. It's basically a waste of time to attack them when there isn't enough time to take them out (which is pretty much always when there are more enemies in the field). But you did it very quickly anyway

[Caratinoid]

Topographer wrote...

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

That's the thing I could only find two, one on xbox (47 min) and I remember Star Fury did one with Krysae but it took more than two hours.

Modifié par Caratinoid, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:32 .

[Kalas Magnus]

Congrats.

[Caratinoid]

longgamma wrote...

Topographer wrote...

Anything with warp is automatically good, but I still think she is not among the better characters anymore. The reason for that (among others) is Grenade Capacity V, removing the death requirement on tech combos, and that BE nerf a long time ago.

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

Also stentron, the addition of the dragoon was the deathknell for her. AA with scoped Paladins were so common in Cerberus gold matches, and I am struggling to remember a single gold pug against cerberus that the setup post Retaliation.

The AV outclasses her, cluster grenades + statis bubble can handle any faction.

Yes, AV is much safer and really fun to use against cerberus now. You can still use AA though but dragoons are really annoying for her especially on platinum, the damage they do is just to high there even with max shields, if you dodge their melee they will still get you with their guns really fast.

[The fool you should have eaten]

Oh when that Marauder took that missile in wave nine. That had to suck.

Very nice gameplay. I can hardly do a 25 minute bronze solo. Much less finish one on gold.  Oh, and I like your appearance set up too.

Modifié par The fool you should have eaten, 15 novembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[Achire]

Nicely done. Yeah, AA just doesn't seem to be that great these days. For me it was the dodge rates, it got ridiculous after some patch or DLC.

[Caratinoid]

Fortack wrote...

Well done!

I think you could even be a little faster if you completely ignore banshee until everything else is death. It's basically a waste of time to attack them when there isn't enough time to take them out (which is pretty much always when there are more enemies in the field). But you did it very quickly anyway

Yes, a common strategy is to avoid banshee, tried that before, it's not so easy on this map. That big open hall will often be crowded with enemies, you will not be able to just cross that while being chased. If you keep running around like that you will get yourself killed, not to mention that she will catch on to you really fast anyway. The best thing here is to do what I did, do some damage making her stop and then start to look for other enemies while watching her warp balls. When she starts to charge again she will be at half health already, few acolyte shots, one FE, one BE... done! 100 points off the wave budget!

[doozerdude]

Fade9wayz wrote...

Good work

There will always be a soft spot in my heart for the original Asari Adept ^^

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[Caratinoid]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Oh when that Marauder took that missile in wave nine. That had to suck.

Yeah, Marauder Shields was a real hero here, took a rocket in the face for his team!

[dumdum2]

Caratinoid wrote...
Is it currently the fastest solo run with this character against reapers?

Right 

Congrats on your solo though 

Modifié par dumdum2, 15 novembre 2012 - 10:02 .

[capn233]

I guess you didn't get the memo that AA is the second worst character in the game. Behind whatever it was in that other thread from yesterday (I already forgot... Vorcha Hunter I think).

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Great job

[Xaijin]

longgamma wrote...

Topographer wrote...

Anything with warp is automatically good, but I still think she is not among the better characters anymore. The reason for that (among others) is Grenade Capacity V, removing the death requirement on tech combos, and that BE nerf a long time ago.

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

Also stentron, the addition of the dragoon was the deathknell for her. AA with scoped Paladins were so common in Cerberus gold matches, and I am struggling to remember a single gold pug against cerberus that the setup post Retaliation.

The AV outclasses her, cluster grenades + statis bubble can handle any faction.

Wrong. Dragoons go down hard in one detonation, without weapons, which allows her to carry a piranha with warp rounds. Prime one, shoot the other in the face, detonate and pick off anything left. If you get three dragoons on you in that scenario, it's three dead dragoons in three to four seconds. Pretty damn efficient, and her dodge pretty much seals the deal.

Modifié par Xaijin, 15 novembre 2012 - 10:22 .

[B5GkarNarn]

 @Caratinoid:  Congratulations on beating the Reapers in a solo MP game on the Gold difficulty setting!!!! 

Also, thank you very much for making that video & sharing it with us!!!! 

I'm ashamed to admit that I only recently beat Cerberus in a solo MP game on Bronze - and I was sweating bullets by the end of it.  I can barely imagine how difficult doing this on Silver or Gold will be for me.  

Questions:
1) What equipment bonuses were you using?
2) How many Cobra Missile Launchers, Medi-Gel, Ops Packs, and Thermal Clip Packs were you able to carry?

[Black Phantom]

longgamma wrote...

Topographer wrote...

Anything with warp is automatically good, but I still think she is not among the better characters anymore. The reason for that (among others) is Grenade Capacity V, removing the death requirement on tech combos, and that BE nerf a long time ago.

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

Also stentron, the addition of the dragoon was the deathknell for her. AA with scoped Paladins were so common in Cerberus gold matches, and I am struggling to remember a single gold pug against cerberus that the setup post Retaliation.

The AV outclasses her, cluster grenades + statis bubble can handle any faction.

The AA/AV with a scoped Paladin or sniper rifle has always been an incredibly weak setup when the Wraith/Piranha exist as alternatives. It's only been really great against one faction (Cerberus) where an AA using a Wraith or Piranha can stomp on all 4 factions.

If a build can't handle all of the factions, it's a bad build.

[capn233]

Ashen Earth wrote...

The AA/AV with a scoped Paladin or sniper rifle has always been an incredibly weak setup when the Wraith/Piranha exist as alternatives.

Why is the Paladin incredibly weak?  I will ignore the sniper bit since I hate Asari snipers, but it doesn't seem to me that an OPistol weilding AA or AV has always been subpar, especially a while back before some (unneeded?) buffs to the Wraith.

I don't like the scope, but Paladin is more likely to land a full damage headshot at range compared to the Wraith, it can kill 3 basics per reload, and you can even buff the headshot multiplier on it if you want.

As for the faction comment, interestingly Cerberus is the only one where you can't translate the headshot advantage of the Paladin against all the units since the Atlas doesn't have a head.  All Reaper units do, as do all Geth and Collector units.

If were really talking about the spam stasis and get headshots style AA, it was never the best, and I would agree there.

[UKStory135]

Ashen Earth wrote...

longgamma wrote...

Topographer wrote...

Anything with warp is automatically good, but I still think she is not among the better characters anymore. The reason for that (among others) is Grenade Capacity V, removing the death requirement on tech combos, and that BE nerf a long time ago.

Nice job btw, and I have no idea what the record time is with that character against reapers. I can't remember the last time someone did one

Also stentron, the addition of the dragoon was the deathknell for her. AA with scoped Paladins were so common in Cerberus gold matches, and I am struggling to remember a single gold pug against cerberus that the setup post Retaliation.

The AV outclasses her, cluster grenades + statis bubble can handle any faction.

The AA/AV with a scoped Paladin or sniper rifle has always been an incredibly weak setup when the Wraith/Piranha exist as alternatives. It's only been really great against one faction (Cerberus) where an AA using a Wraith or Piranha can stomp on all 4 factions.

If a build can't handle all of the factions, it's a bad build.

The Paladin is a darn good gun.  Though I prefer the Wraith on my AV, I don't think a Paladin build is useless.  If the player decides to only stasis /  snipe spam, that's the player's problem, not the gun or the build's.