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[kipac]

CaoSlayer wrote...

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, for the moment. ME3 was a option until now.

Console B is not out yet, have not reputation yet, only speculation.

Damn capcom always make Monster Hunter exclusive..

[hudder92]

sandboxgod wrote...

eidt- Bioware should rethink their strategy for next ME4. Take a look at games with really great stores that doesnt troll you like League of Legends. You buy what you want. And those devs make a killing

So what are you suggesting they do? Charge $10 for a weapon that you want? Bad part of that is it will cost you $100 to get it up to level 10. 

I think I prefer it the way it is.

[Anonymous Friend]

Up until the update, any weekend challenge packs I earned on one platform was also available on the other. Also, Galactic Awareness is carried over all platforms. I doubt that there's much in the way to keep manifest data separate.

Not everyone's friends own the same console and I would probably play the multiplayer on my PlayStation copy, helping to keep multiple online communities alive.

[Bryan Johnson]

Anonymous Friend wrote...

Up until the update, any weekend challenge packs I earned on one platform was also available on the other. Also, Galactic Awareness is carried over all platforms. I doubt that there's much in the way to keep manifest data separate.

Not everyone's friends own the same console and I would probably play the multiplayer on my PlayStation copy, helping to keep multiple online communities alive.

You are incorrect, there is nothing being done to explicitly seperate them.

Think of what you have with equipment, challenge progress etc. as achievements/PS3 trophies it is a far closure analsysis.

The reason why weekend challenge things are now not all 3 platforms is this:
Before we didnt track explicity the account you were playing on so we gave your account an entitlement (yes all EA games share the same entitlement account, but not game data)

So the entitlement that was given to your account was one that applied to all platforms.

Now the challenge system rewards you an entitlement for the platform you completed it on.



To sum it up, what you are comparing is 2 entirely different systems

[SOG TOUGH]

Getting a Wii U, may get ME3 on it when it becomes really cheap, but I'll continue to play multiplayer on Xbox 360.

[Pho Kadat]

I think if the micro-transaction model were not in play here that transferring of profiles or even the establishment of a singular profile across all platforms would be a non-issue. Technologically, the merger wouldn't be difficult, but since transactions are specifically designed to improve a profile via the purchase of item packs using the corresponding platform currency, the console makers could effectively lose their cut of those profits.

In fact, the micro-transaction process likely has a very strict agreement preventing this merger so no party can game the system. For example, BW might be prevented from allowing purchasable packs via the internet directly through Origin for use on any of the consoles. In turn, this separation of profiles also prevents any one party from reducing the price of their purchases to outsell the others.

Modifié par Pho Kadat, 16 novembre 2012 - 01:40 .

[Fawx9]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Anonymous Friend wrote...

Up until the update, any weekend challenge packs I earned on one platform was also available on the other. Also, Galactic Awareness is carried over all platforms. I doubt that there's much in the way to keep manifest data separate.

Not everyone's friends own the same console and I would probably play the multiplayer on my PlayStation copy, helping to keep multiple online communities alive.

You are incorrect, there is nothing being done to explicitly seperate them.

Think of what you have with equipment, challenge progress etc. as achievements/PS3 trophies it is a far closure analsysis.

The reason why weekend challenge things are now not all 3 platforms is this:
Before we didnt track explicity the account you were playing on so we gave your account an entitlement (yes all EA games share the same entitlement account, but not game data)

So the entitlement that was given to your account was one that applied to all platforms.

Now the challenge system rewards you an entitlement for the platform you completed it on.



To sum it up, what you are comparing is 2 entirely different systems

So theres no chance of making the manifest account wide instead of platform restricted I guess then? Due to the platform cuts you mentioned earlier?

Sucks, friends were split between Xbox and PC communities when game came, would have loved to play with my full manifest on both platforms to get the best experience with both parties.

[L45TN7]

a universal manifest would be nice. I've been playing ME3 MP since day one on PC and its great! but sometimes I wish I could lie in bed to chill and just play bronze. I especially feel that way when doing the 200 waves character challenges and the idea on playing in bed on the wii u pad thingy is appealing but I don't want to have 2 separate manifests - i don't have the time for that.

[CaoSlayer]

If that is the case, I would settle for at least having all won commendation packs since owning a levelled up hurricane or valiant is a good start. I don't care much about rare or lower quality items.. but ultra rare and promotional items are too hard to get back again.

[sandboxgod]

hudder92 wrote...

sandboxgod wrote...

eidt- Bioware should rethink their strategy for next ME4. Take a look at games with really great stores that doesnt troll you like League of Legends. You buy what you want. And those devs make a killing

So what are you suggesting they do? Charge $10 for a weapon that you want? Bad part of that is it will cost you $100 to get it up to level 10. 

I think I prefer it the way it is.

League of Legends doesn't work like that at all. Have you played it? 

You have the option to earn credits (like we do here) or buy exactly what you want. No RNG trolling. All i've seen RNG do is ****** off my friends and make them quit playing this game as soon as they max their manifest

edit- How would this fix Bioware's issue? Well at least then folks would have the option to buy exactly what they need when they switch consoles. For instance, all I would need is maybe Geth/SI to be unlocked. So i"d purchase that. Next, I would just purchased a max upgraded gun, like Claymore. From there I could hop right back into Platnium or Gold. the way this game is setup right now, it would probably cost me like $300-400 to get an equivalent manifest to what I have now. So no- the current system sucks badly. 

Modifié par sandboxgod, 16 novembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[unclemonster]

It would be GREAT to share your manifest between systems. I currently own 2 of each system (2-xbox360, 2-ps3, 2-wii, 2-wiiu pre-ordered). I own 2 copies of ME3 on PS3. I would purchase 2 copies of ME3 for the WII-U if I had access to my manifests. No interest in starting over though. ME3 WII-U sales will suffer because most people have the sanity to not start their manifests over.
I do understand why it is not possible (micro transactions $$)

[sandboxgod]

Same here unclemonster. I have ps3, pc, & xbox. Eventually I will get Wii U once Bayonetta 2 releases for it. I'd at least get ME3 for my PC if the manifests were shared. Unfortunately due to the messy micro transaction system this is unfeasible due to it costing an extreme large amount of money to create a manifest with maxed out rares.

Too bad they didnt simply bypass Xbox Live, PSN, etc by allowing customers to go directly to the site and purchase what they want somehow (or use our cell phones). This way you are no longer bound to Microsoft$$$.

Buy anyway not a big deal theres lots of great games on PC. I am currently enjoying Guild wars 2 and Dota 2 on mine. I play me3 on my xbox

[ForTuchanka]

sandboxgod wrote...
League of Legends doesn't work like that at all. Have you played it? 

You have the option to earn credits (like we do here) or buy exactly what you want. No RNG trolling. All i've seen RNG do is ****** off my friends and make them quit playing this game as soon as they max their manifest

 


 If people could simply buy Harrier Xs, that would be all you would see.


So... you get a gun that is generally considered beastly (like the Krysae pre-triple nerf) and everyone will buy it at max rank for real money and then entire lobbies will be filled with krysaes... which are then nerfed for fairness and everyone whines even more than currently that their darling of a gun got taken down a notch for fairness.  They'll be screaming that they never would have bought that gun specifically if they knew that it was going to change so drastically.  Despite the RNG screwing me over for around 4 mill in a row, I like that system better than simply buying the stuff outright.  Paying for specific items in a weekly tweaked game is a recipe for disaster.     

RNG is an integral part of this game probably for another 4-6 months or so.  Get over it for now or stop playing until they introduce a BF3-esque class package for $15-20 that includes all the classes and associated weapons at max rank.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Transferring between different platforms is not going to happen.
It's well known that when you buy something on a console with real money the person who owns that platform gets a cut of it.

If transferring was something that was done wide scale would that company also deserve a cut of it? What about the original company do they deserve to lose that cut because technically that content is no longer on their platform?

Bryan, thanks for replying to this.  My problem with this logic though is that it is actually counterproductive in terms of sales to both BW/EA and the respective platform owners. 

As it stands, I will never play ME3 MP on another platform, because I have no interest in starting over.  However, if manifests did transfer, then I would be signifcantly more likely to buy ME3 for a second or even third platform, particularly the PC and Wii U.  The PC do do recordings, and the Wii U as I might get one, I find the idea of the tablet controller to be interesting at least.  There are two potential sales being lost due to the inability to transfer. 

[BjornDaDwarf]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Transferring between different platforms is not going to happen.
It's well known that when you buy something on a console with real money the person who owns that platform gets a cut of it.

If transferring was something that was done wide scale would that company also deserve a cut of it? What about the original company do they deserve to lose that cut because technically that content is no longer on their platform?

Bryan, thanks for replying to this.  My problem with this logic though is that it is actually counterproductive in terms of sales to both BW/EA and the respective platform owners. 

As it stands, I will never play ME3 MP on another platform, because I have no interest in starting over.  However, if manifests did transfer, then I would be signifcantly more likely to buy ME3 for a second or even third platform, particularly the PC and Wii U.  The PC do do recordings, and the Wii U as I might get one, I find the idea of the tablet controller to be interesting at least.  There are two potential sales being lost due to the inability to transfer. 

Follow up thought to this...there's no reason that a manifest transfer has to be a free and automatic thing.  There could be a $5 or $10 charge to import your manifest from one platform to another.  This seems to make the most rational sense for all parties involved.

1.  Players get what they want
2.  Platform owners and BW sell more games
3.  Platform owners and BW have another monetization method (even if it is just a one off, but that's like SP DLC)

[CaoSlayer]

umm, it is still better that nothing at all.

[CaoSlayer]

Update:
http://www.eurogamer...lable-for-wii-u

Seems that no DLC neither the last MP expansion is going to be available... yet.