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[Sebby]

Killer3000ad wrote...

Holy crud... a pure FPS game, COD, a game that Bioware once said they would like the COD crowd to come over, managed to implement meaningful decisions and consequences while ME3 didn't.

Everything from RTS games(Starcraft 2), fighting games(Blazblue), sandbox games(GTAIV),pure TPS (Gears of War) and light gun rail shooters(House of the Dead) wipe the floor with the entire ME series when it comes to choices that have a tangible impact on gameplay or a branching narrative. COD being able to do so as well is hardly surprising.

That EAware wouldn't do something as basic as giving Shepard an exclusive Geth gun if he sides with them in the Rannoch plot shows the lack of effort and ambition that went into this.

[Someone With Mass]

Are people still that butthurt over the obvious developer hype that was the whole consequences thing?

If you want action and consequences that badly, go play Russian Roulette.

[Costin_Razvan]

Or play Witcher 2, Alpha Protocol and now Black Ops 2.

[David7204]

These threads sure would be a lot more convincing if every game (and several movies) that came along with a passing resemblance to Mass Effect wasn't shilled as the best thing ever, ever. I'm continually surprised that people seem to be unaware of how obvious of a giveaway that is that the 'shillers' in question haven't bothered to think. 

Modifié par David7204, 17 novembre 2012 - 11:21 .

[Sebby]

Someone With Mass wrote...

developer hype that was the whole consequences thing?

Thanks for pointing out another why this series is a joke.

LOL @getting beaten by games that don't even market choices.

[Jadebaby]

Seboist wrote...

Killer3000ad wrote...

Holy crud... a pure FPS game, COD, a game that Bioware once said they would like the COD crowd to come over, managed to implement meaningful decisions and consequences while ME3 didn't.

Everything from RTS games(Starcraft 2), fighting games(Blazblue), sandbox games(GTAIV),pure TPS (Gears of War) and light gun rail shooters(House of the Dead) wipe the floor with the entire ME series when it comes to choices that have a tangible impact on gameplay or a branching narrative. COD being able to do so as well is hardly surprising.

That EAware wouldn't do something as basic as giving Shepard an exclusive Geth gun if he sides with them in the Rannoch plot shows the lack of effort and ambition that went into this.

ummm.. I don't think you've played gears of war.. lol.

[Someone With Mass]

Seboist wrote...

Thanks for pointing out another why this series is a joke.

LOL @getting beaten by games that don't even market choices.

Still better than The Witcher 2.

Damn, does that game look generic.

[Chromie]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Thanks for pointing out another why this series is a joke.

LOL @getting beaten by games that don't even market choices.

Still better than The Witcher 2.

Damn, does that game look generic.

Why exactly do you find generic?

Modifié par Skelter192, 17 novembre 2012 - 11:59 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

The choice system in Black Ops 2 is actually really really well made. It's a shame how some of you people pushes it away, just because it has the COD name attached to it, but I guess that's to be expected by people at this point.

[corporal doody]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The choice system in Black Ops 2 is actually really really well made. It's a shame how some of you people pushes it away, just because it has the COD name attached to it, but I guess that's to be expected by people at this point.

if this was a CoD forum or gamespot/gamefaqs...i would say cool beans. BUt it is NOT.

this thread is a BS jab at ME3.  nothing more.

Modifié par corporal doody, 17 novembre 2012 - 12:33 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

corporal doody wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The choice system in Black Ops 2 is actually really really well made. It's a shame how some of you people pushes it away, just because it has the COD name attached to it, but I guess that's to be expected by people at this point.

if this was a CoD forum or gamespot/gamefaqs...i would say cool beans. BUt it is NOT.

this thread is a BS jab at ME3.  nothing more.

I'm not defending the troll part of this thread. Just saying that BO2 actually did quite a good job with this, and that if you like games with choices you should give it a chance.

[crimzontearz]

Lol the sad truth is that nowadays a lot of games do (insert something that Mass Effect tried to do or is supposed to do well here) better than Mass Effect 3

Shooter mechanics? Any shooter does it better even the ones which are MEANT to have subpar mechanics like spec ops: the line
RPG Elements? Hell Darksiders 2 has more branching customization.
Digital Actors? Halo 4 smokes Mass Effect (especially Cortana and DelRio)
Choices matter? The wircher and SURPRISINGLY even COD.
Weapon customization? PFFFT please Crysis and Crysis 2 do it scores better and actually affect gameplay
Multiplayer integrated with campaign? Spartan Ops in Halo 4 did it WAY better


and so on and so forth

Modifié par crimzontearz, 17 novembre 2012 - 01:14 .

[David7204]

The sad truth is that too many people on the BSN are foolish enough to simultaneously claim ME 3 does everything wrong and isn't worth their time, money or attention...and then spend hours on a forum discussing it and claiming they were 'hurt' by it.

Modifié par David7204, 17 novembre 2012 - 01:24 .

[crimzontearz]

David7204 wrote...

The sad truth is that too many people on the BSN are foolish enough to simultaneously claim ME 3 does everything wrong and isn't worth their time, money or attention...and then spend hours on a forum discussing it and claiming they were 'hurt' by it.

LOL please, because I would be here if I was completely disgusted by the game right? No, But I am not going to blindly overlook all the shortcomings, from the blatant ones of the ending to the ones that stem from attempting to reel in the shooter/casual crowd over tending to the core audience, to those that come as a result of the game being developed in less than 2.5 years while trying to copy other games's features and failing at it.


 
I spend most of my time on the Halo 4 boards and soon I will spending some more on the DA3 forums (depending on what is revealed about it) and the crisys 3 forums (as more news surface)....but even then I still come here because I believe BiowEAre needs to be reminded of how their best franchise fell as their usual attitude toward things like this is to ignore the worst criticism and hear what they want to hear. I WANT the franchise to return to its former glory but blindly worshipping Bioware and "focusing on telling them why we liked the game" like Jessica tried to steer us towards when it was first released is NOT going to do it, if anything it will accomplish the exact opposite

[David7204]

Can you do that without being stupid and childish, and actually complaining for the right reasons?

[crimzontearz]

David7204 wrote...

Can you do that without being stupid and childish, and actually complaining for the right reasons?

Can you actually read and back up your claims?

[David7204]

My 'claim' is that someone who says they want the franchise to be great but decides to argue that by basically saying "LOLZ ME 3 haz the worst combat EVAH!!" and "ROFL halo4 smokez ME3 LOL" is a moron. The proof is inherent.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

The saddest part is, that the OP is actually correct...

The choices make a HUGE difference. Dammit Woods! I actually want to replay the Campaign so I can get the perfect ending.

[crimzontearz]

David7204 wrote...

My 'claim' is that someone who says they want the franchise to be great but decides to argue that by basically saying "LOLZ ME 3 haz the worst combat EVAH!!" and "ROFL halo4 smokez ME3 LOL" is a moron. The proof is inherent.

awww distorting my posts..how adorable

No, if you took time to read you would see that my point is that Bioeare  committed some fatal mistakes (maybe under pressure from EA) which resulted in OTHER games outshining some of the features that made the game great.

The game was developed in less than 2.5 years. That resulted in lack of polish and a feeling of rush as well as tons of depth being removed in comparison to other installments Especially when it comes to choices that matter. The desire to reel in a different audience left us with a much more linear game with lackluster shooter mechanics which are de facto bland and generic and fail to emulate let alone surpass the games it took inspiration from as well as a watered down interaction and dialogue system.


 
And don't even get me started on that mess that is MP which tried uselessly to tie in with the SP which was demanded by EA  and against all promises made to us REQUIRED  to get the full range of endings unless you had the ancillary apps for the IPhone or whatever


 
But hey, keep white knighting for BiowEAre I am sure it will result in better future products

[Jamie9]

A 6-hour long campaign has more meaningful decisions than a 40-hour long game that has to take into account two prior 40-hour long games?

Shock!

Obviously a 6-hour long game is far, far easier to implement decisions into. And no, I'm not paying $60 for a 6-hour long game. The last CoD I bought was World at War and I'm sticking with that until Treyarch/Infinity Ward decide that the SP actually matters.

[Mcfly616]

You know....I really hate to be "that" guy. But, now its just gotten out of hand. Of all games, you say CoD?! Lol It has branching conclusions.....whoopdi doo. Everything else is exactly the same as last year....and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that.


Only sheep annually pay $60 for the same gameplay with some new maps/guns.


Sorry, but just because it finally implemented a single new gameplay mechanic, doesn't mean it somehow is better than the good games out there lol. Just watch as Black Ops 2 doesn't get nominated for overall Game of the Year, and ME3 is nominated by every major publication. Haters gonna be real mad

[The Spamming Troll]

oh, bioware underperformes.

whoda thought.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Thanks for pointing out another why this series is a joke.

LOL @getting beaten by games that don't even market choices.

Still better than The Witcher 2.

Damn, does that game look generic.

It plays pretty weak as well. The combat system is like a bland version of Dark Souls.

[The Spamming Troll]

Mcfly616 wrote...

You know....I really hate to be "that" guy. But, now its just gotten out of hand. Of all games, you say CoD?! Lol It has branching conclusions.....whoopdi doo. Everything else is exactly the same as last year....and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that.


Only sheep annually pay $60 for the same gameplay with some new maps/guns.


Sorry, but just because it finally implemented a single new gameplay mechanic, doesn't mean it somehow is better than the good games out there lol. Just watch as Black Ops 2 doesn't get nominated for overall Game of the Year, and ME3 is nominated by every major publication. Haters gonna be real mad

you havent noticed alot of people dont like ME3???

and you LOVE being that guy.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The choice system in Black Ops 2 is actually really really well made. It's a shame how some of you people pushes it away, just because it has the COD name attached to it, but I guess that's to be expected by people at this point.

Fair point. But then, in their defense, CoD in recent history hasn't really done anything to earn that trust, hence the skepticism. Their last decent plotline was what, Modern Warfare 1?

And others have pointed out, it's far easier to design choices around a 6 hour campaign than it is around 3 25+ hour campaigns, where each involves choices with dramatic consequences. I don't find the imports to be satisfactory, but then Bioware set themselves up for failure with this since ME1. What other developer has made an attempt on a similar scale?  

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 17 novembre 2012 - 03:14 .