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#176
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spirosz wrote...

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Seival wrote...

Witcher2 was really bad in almost all aspects.


Care to elaborate, besides blanket statements about graphics, story, and cloning DA2?


Seival is trolling at best.  


Shhhh. 

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Seival wrote...

Wimbini wrote...

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Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

@Sevial

So the Witcher 2 was developed in the two months following DAII's release?

I really hope you're just trolling Seival. Because this is fairly idiotic, even by your standards,


DA2 was announced long before it was released. And everyone knew that DA2 will be similar to DA:O and Mass Effect in some particular aspects. Witcher2 devs have all reference needed to clone DA2. But the clone was pretty ugly...

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In that case DA2 was a DA:O clone and DA:O was a BG clone and BG was a clone from every other Pen and Paper RPG before it. 

What is your point?


Yes, in game development everyone use some else's ideas, or re-use their own previous ideas. But someone do it nicely, and someone else fails. DA2 wasn't a perfect game, but it was quite good. While Witcher2 was really bad in almost all aspects.

Even if you hate TW2 you can't tell me that the writing in DA2 was even "good" compared tot the deep and mature writing in TW2. Or that it does choices million times better than any DA/ME game ever did.

Modifié par Wimbini, 17 novembre 2012 - 10:03 .


#178
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spirosz wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

Witcher2 was really bad in almost all aspects.


Care to elaborate, besides blanket statements about graphics, story, and cloning DA2?


Seival is trolling at best.  


And failling as hard at it as Bioware did with "choices".

#179
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Oh look another thread to put Bioware down.

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Argolas wrote...

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This reminded me of something... Ah yes!
*


I know that this is OT, but... Is this guy serious? :blink:

google query, some articles about.
I don't know is he serious, or just genius troll. World also wonders :D

#181
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Arcian wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

Seboist wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

... Call of Duty has a storyline?


Yes, unlike DA2 and ME2.


A troll with goblin avatar? This is something new.

I suppose you enjoy a silly "DA2-clone" also known as "Witcher2", and think it has a nice and interesting storyline?

How much do rival companies pay to support trolls I wonder...


spoke like a true troll...

This reminded me of something... Ah yes
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Jimmies Status:
[  ] Unrustled
[X] Rustled

*Fails at translation*

#182
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Seival wrote...

Witcher2 was released later than DA2. And it doesn't matter that both Witchers were based on some book series that was written before DA2 release. Those books didn't have interactive choices which affect the story outcome.

Witcher2 is just "let's make a game like Dragon Age 2, but with different story, stupid combat system, and unoptimized graphic engine". Nothing more.

0/10
Pathetic. You know, trolling is art, and you failed badly at that. Plain lies will get you nowhere.

#183
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Wimbini wrote...

Seival wrote...

Wimbini wrote...

Seival wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

@Sevial

So the Witcher 2 was developed in the two months following DAII's release?

I really hope you're just trolling Seival. Because this is fairly idiotic, even by your standards,


DA2 was announced long before it was released. And everyone knew that DA2 will be similar to DA:O and Mass Effect in some particular aspects. Witcher2 devs have all reference needed to clone DA2. But the clone was pretty ugly...

...Posted Image

 
In that case DA2 was a DA:O clone and DA:O was a BG clone and BG was a clone from every other Pen and Paper RPG before it. 

What is your point?


Yes, in game development everyone use some else's ideas, or re-use their own previous ideas. But someone do it nicely, and someone else fails. DA2 wasn't a perfect game, but it was quite good. While Witcher2 was really bad in almost all aspects.

Even if you hate TW2 you can't tell me that the writing in DA2 was even "good" compared tot the deep and mature writing in TW2. Or that it does choices million times better than any DA/ME game ever did.


I don't hate it. There are games that much worse than TW2... TW1 for example Posted Image

But for me TW2 is something like 6/10. "Nice try, better luck with next clone".

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Seboist wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

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Wreav's the better character anyhow, even if for the sole reason of being consistent.

You meant Wrex in ME3? Well, there is also such wonderful things like Udina's self-betrayal. :lol:


Yeppers, Wrex in ME3 was a disgrace. All that character development about the Krogans' violent nature being the true cause of their demise and not the genophage and his being in power due to the policy of fertile females in neutral ground went out the window and he becomes Wreav-lite instead. Killing him (and Ashley) in ME1 turned out to be the better choice.

Well, Wrex would like to genophage being cured, i think, eventually. You know, reaper war and predictable heavy losses. He is a politician and cares about future of his race. 
So i'm not so sure about him declining possibility of cure.

And Udina... oh man, what made it all the more sad was that his portrayal and interaction with Shepard in the beginning was the best in the series. That's just what happens when ones winging it and wants to provide wish fulfillment in the form of giving the kiddies their chance to "drop loads" on Udina.


Especially idiotic, because it was Udina(not alone, of course, but his role was noticeable) who constantly pushed council for human spectres, and who made Shepard spectre.
He just dislikes things that out of his control, and that's the main reason him not liking Shepard eventually. He was great, mature and realistic character in ME1.
Well, there is also ME3 TIM... :crying:

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Never saw what was so special about TW2 myself.

Though, I'd imagine that the pixel ****** have something to do with its popularity.

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And its a Sci Fi setting...

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Well, it's special if you think that a world full of pricks not worth caring about equates to maturity.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Never saw what was so special about TW2 myself.

Though, I'd imagine that the pixel ****** have something to do with its popularity.

Nope. I loved TW2 because of it's strong characters, gripping main story, music, level design and how choices where handled. Pixel boobies did nothing for me.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Never saw what was so special about TW2 myself.


It's not, really, but it commands attention since it does many of the things that it does better than the competition, and it's polished.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Never saw what was so special about TW2 myself.

Though, I'd imagine that the pixel ****** have something to do with its popularity.


Not in my case.
I like the story and i like how it is not as silly as DA2. (This not really a response to you but to Seival)
Magic is good! Now i'll prove that by turning into an abomination =].

EDIT: And Mr. House also gave good reasons why i think TW2 is a good game.

Modifié par Wimbini, 17 novembre 2012 - 10:44 .


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Someone With Mass wrote...

Never saw what was so special about TW2 myself.

Though, I'd imagine that the pixel ****** have something to do with its popularity.


And don't forget about that "badass-hero" parody in the very first minutes of the game :)

*Badassfully*: "f*** you!"... M-M-M-Mature writing!... Posted Image

And the protagonist's looks... Posted Image

20 FPS... Posted Image

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#192
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Not story or campaign related, sorry.