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#51
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Lexa_D wrote...

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Even with a high velocity barrel and magazine size armor piercing ammo 4 , it is not great , just a average character can  kill better than this setup, it is good on platinium as most are slow boss unit they are easy to hit  . Of course it is gold viable but I cant use great to describe it.

Ur doing it wrong, though with right setup. Spray moar.


Dont even have to spray. The gun is so accurate that anytime you can use hard cover you should since you almost get a + for a reticule. And to have the same RoF as the Revenant, the Typhoon is super stable, I took the stability mod off the thing...It doesn't need it.  

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darkblade wrote...

Lexa_D wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

Even with a high velocity barrel and magazine size armor piercing ammo 4 , it is not great , just a average character can  kill better than this setup, it is good on platinium as most are slow boss unit they are easy to hit  . Of course it is gold viable but I cant use great to describe it.

Ur doing it wrong, though with right setup. Spray moar.


Dont even have to spray. The gun is so accurate that anytime you can use hard cover you should since you almost get a + for a reticule. And to have the same RoF as the Revenant, the Typhoon is super stable, I took the stability mod off the thing...It doesn't need it.  

By spraying I mean not releasing the trigger when moving to next target - sorry if that sounded wrong :)

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Beelzebubs wrote...

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Nope. Black Widow, Javelin, Claymore, Piranha, Raider, Graal, GPS are MUCH better for boss killing


Just when I thought it couldn't get any more stupid than the OP.

Well done.

Go ahead and defend not so great guns, retard.


*grabs popcorn*

Diet or regular Coke,sir?

#54
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I think the typhoon is a great gun. so meaty. it's great on the turian soldier

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There is nothing wrong with the typhoon, for mid to long range engagements, use cover to boost your accuracy. Ive used it in Platinum/Gold matches(Weapon has been anywhere from III toVII) on the following classes.
Batarian Soldier, Turian Soldier, N7 Demolisher, Turian Havok, Turian Ghost, Volus Engineer(It was mostly for comedic effect but it actually wasnt bad as soon as stuff gets close so pattern didnt matter.)
As most people have said, ditch the HVB and go with the Extended Barrel, Using either AP III/IV or Drill Rounds III to give armor reduction and penetration. I highly reccomend a Stability module consumable/gear if you are planning to be more mobile.
For Gold/Platinum vs. Bosses, its always nice to have a power that compliments the typhoon if its your primary build. For example, the Volus Engineer with a recon mine debuff and prox mine debuff on target was shredding Atlas and Banshees, even before other team members got on target. Same holds true for the Turian Soldier mine, Havok Cryo blast debuf, Ghost Overload specced high shield damage to get those AP rounds in to the more vulnerable armor quicker.

In my opinion and we know everyone on the internet has one. The biggest issues for people with the typhoon in general is not using the cover advantage when possible and the spool up time. Pressure units like dragoons/phantoms/bombers/hunters can sometimes be issues in close proximity. Just get used to them, assume if there isnt one in visual range, its right behind you. :)

Anyhow, thats my 2 virtual cents...

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peddroelmz wrote...

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So true. Armor reduce is capped at 90% which both the HVB and the APIV have.


NOT true ..There is no armor DR reduction cap .. Why is this 90% false info keep poping up ?! 


Sorry, I may have misremembered, I didn´t want to spread false information. I just know that going for more than 90% offers no additional benefits, now doesn´t it? I simply saved that information as Armor reduction cap.

Again, Sorry for spreading false information.

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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

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The Typhoon is quite possibly the best gun when it comes to boss killing. Slap on an EB and AP mod (or AP ammo along with ext. mags) and you're good to go. That being said, I prefer the Revenant.


Nope. Black Widow, Javelin, Claymore, Piranha, Raider, Graal, GPS are MUCH better for boss killing

Oh, my, Graal and GPS. Go kill a golden Brute with that.

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Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...
So true. Armor reduce is capped at 90% which both the HVB and the APIV have.


NOT true ..There is no armor DR reduction cap .. Why is this 90% false info keep poping up ?! 


Sorry, I may have misremembered, I didn´t want to spread false information. I just know that going for more than 90% offers no additional benefits, now doesn´t it? I simply saved that information as Armor reduction cap.

Again, Sorry for spreading false information.


Going over 100% (0 DR) offers no additional benefit ...

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TommyNg wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

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The Typhoon is great.

L2P


Even after nerf ? Any video to support it

 

Here you go.


Because collector and reaper is slow moving easy to hit them with typhoon, vs cerberus and geth its not that easy.

And you know that thee3nd guy ? I heard he is famous , I slighty outscored his Valkyrie+reegar  , its very hard ,at first he outscored my salarian inf by 50000 point then i changed to destroyer









So the Typhoon sucks partly because you have bad aiming skills?:huh:

I use the Typhoon V on my Destroyer combined with HML and he utterly demolishes everything in his path on Gold. If you have so much trouble hitting enemies, then put on incendiary ammo on it to do extra damage and stagger enemies with the flame effect.

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Lexa_D wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

Felis Menari wrote...

The Typhoon is quite possibly the best gun when it comes to boss killing. Slap on an EB and AP mod (or AP ammo along with ext. mags) and you're good to go. That being said, I prefer the Revenant.


Nope. Black Widow, Javelin, Claymore, Piranha, Raider, Graal, GPS are MUCH better for boss killing

Oh, my, Graal and GPS. Go kill a golden Brute with that.

They ignore armor, can be charged for great damage and Graal deals insane amount of headshot damage. Use them with infiltrators.

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The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.

But Typhoon is a good gun.

Modifié par IronRush, 16 novembre 2012 - 01:57 .


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peddroelmz wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...
So true. Armor reduce is capped at 90% which both the HVB and the APIV have.


NOT true ..There is no armor DR reduction cap .. Why is this 90% false info keep poping up ?! 


Sorry, I may have misremembered, I didn´t want to spread false information. I just know that going for more than 90% offers no additional benefits, now doesn´t it? I simply saved that information as Armor reduction cap.

Again, Sorry for spreading false information.


Going over 100% (0 DR) offers no additional benefit ...

Ok, since I am already flagged as a noob, I may even go further. :wizard:

Since Armor can´t be reduced under a certain fixed value, is it really worth it to go for the full 100%? Or is even that a false memore on my side and Armor can be reduced to a total of zero?

Isn´t in nearly all cases more beneficial to fit an extended barrel for 25% extra damage, when you already have 90% Armor Penetration?

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IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
But Typhoon is a good gun.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.

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Lexa_D wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

Felis Menari wrote...

The Typhoon is quite possibly the best gun when it comes to boss killing. Slap on an EB and AP mod (or AP ammo along with ext. mags) and you're good to go. That being said, I prefer the Revenant.


Nope. Black Widow, Javelin, Claymore, Piranha, Raider, Graal, GPS are MUCH better for boss killing

Oh, my, Graal and GPS. Go kill a golden Brute with that.


I command you to kill Giant Bull Netch with for.. oh w8,wrong game.
Edit,
I soloed Gold Reaper with Graal,this is great weapon on host.

Modifié par zorinho20, 16 novembre 2012 - 02:02 .


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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.


Very wrong here friend.
True AR?
Anyone can detonate the bigger level of difficulty easier than any other gun. Harrier makes the game MUCH more easier, like Krysae pre-nerf. This is wrong.

Modifié par IronRush, 16 novembre 2012 - 02:02 .


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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...
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They ignore armor, can be charged for great damage and Graal deals insane amount of headshot damage. Use them with infiltrators.


They ignore armor DR ...

But are far from ideal boss killing weapons (lack DPS) compared to true top DPS boss melting weapons such as the Typhoon  .... Graal increased headhsot modifier only applies vs regular units .. Boss headshots use a fixed *1.4 + debuffs modifier that is the same for all weapons ...

The difference in Boss killing  efficency is made HUGE in the case of the Atlas because of its double/triple hit per bullet bug hit scan weapons can exploit and projectile weapons (GPS, Graal) cannot ...  

  

Modifié par peddroelmz, 16 novembre 2012 - 02:05 .


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IronRush wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.


Very wrong here friend.
True AR?
Anyone can detonate the bigger level of difficulty easier than any other gun. Harrier makes the game MUCH more easier, like Krysae pre-nerf. This is wrong.


It is an UR, it should be powerful. It also has a huge drawback. If you fell this gun "overpowered", well, use BS like Phaeston then. 

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I've had good results with it even after the nerf.

To be fair, I normally play silver, so take this for what it's worth I guess...

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

The Typhoon is great.

L2P


Tells player to "learn to play" - doesn't provide tips.

Douche

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It's threads like this that make my brain hurt while reading BSN. Personally I only have a typhoon I (thanks to N7 day) and I could immediately tell how great it was. Can't imagine how good it was before the nerf (krysae pre-nerf greatness?).

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Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...
Ok, since I am already flagged as a noob, I may even go further. :wizard:

Since Armor can´t be reduced under a certain fixed value, is it really worth it to go for the full 100%? Or is even that a false memore on my side and Armor can be reduced to a total of zero?

Isn´t in nearly all cases more beneficial to fit an extended barrel for 25% extra damage, when you already have 90% Armor Penetration?


Armor  = enemy hit point value - reduce it to 0 by inflicting damage (weapon//power//melee//ammo) and that particular enemy will die  ...

Armor DR  = a fixed value reduced from each bullet/pellet fired by hit scan weapons damage fired against targets that have armor ... This value CAN be reduced to 0 -  by combining enough armor DR piercing OR (exclusive) armor DR weakening effects ...

Will 25% additive damage bonus always be better than 10% armor DR ?  - this is indeed true for most weapons// practical circumstances ...  

Modifié par peddroelmz, 16 novembre 2012 - 02:17 .


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Typhoon X vs Platinum Atlas : http://www.youtube.c...u850Ip0#t=0m27s

OMG this weapon is so terrible !!!

The Destroyer got nerfed since then but not much has changed since that video was made before they fixed the ridiculous recoil. You just had to use extended mag + recoil dampener. Now you can use extended mag + extended barrel, which means 25% more damage.

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KK, thanks for clearing that up, Peddroelmz. So, I was on the right track for the wrong reasons. :]

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so far all the people mentioned is typhoon + destroyer
or turian soldier
if it is great weapon, then why only limited to 1 ,2 character?

i am not saying it is not good. it is great on destroyer

but the ramp up period is annoying, weight is too heavy, need to use non-stagger class
and the accuracy (i use stability mod) still hard to head shoot. if u always need to stay cover to increase accuracy, how can u say this is accurate weapon?

i would like saber and harrier more in general , they can be more general purpose weapon which still do high dps

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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.


Very wrong here friend.
True AR?
Anyone can detonate the bigger level of difficulty easier than any other gun. Harrier makes the game MUCH more easier, like Krysae pre-nerf. This is wrong.


It is an UR, it should be powerful. It also has a huge drawback. If you fell this gun "overpowered", well, use BS like Phaeston then. 


Believe man, I am doing it. I have Harrier VIII and I dont use.
But I am thinking to change my mind. Me and my friends aren't using Harrier anymore because we like play this game.
But Bioware can track it. If all people are using a kind of gun, they will look at it like Piranha and nerf it. This is a way to show what is going on. Any lobby gold and platinum we can see one or two Harrier user. If this gun wasn't ultra rare we would see a Krysae number 2 problem.
Ultra rare is not supposed to break the game. The Harrier drawback is very soft against his perfect pros.

Modifié par IronRush, 16 novembre 2012 - 02:40 .