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#101
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IronRush wrote...

Believe man, I am doing it. I have Harrier VIII and I dont use.
But I am thinking to change my mind. Me and my friends aren't using Harrier anymore because we like play this game.
But Bioware can track it. If all people are using a kind of gun, they will look at it like Piranha and nerf it.
This is a way to show what is going on. Any lobby gold and platinum we can see one or two Harrier user. If this gun wasn't ultra rare we would see a Krysae number 2 problem.
Ultra rare is not supposed to break the game. The Harrier drawback is very soft against his perfect pros.


Pathetic. You deliberately try to ruin the game for other people. Oh, we have one truly shining AR, nerf it, nerf it! Your attitude, sir, is just disgusting.

You'll only stop yelling when the weapon is nerfed beyond recognition. So noone can steal your kills and shiny medals, or outscore you anymore. Really sad.

For your information, the harrier is a well balanced weapon. Powerful but only tiny spare ammo. No nerf needed, period.

Topic: I love the typhoon. Yes, the ppr is 'better', but in no way funnier than the typhoon. Posted Image

Modifié par Schachmatt, 16 novembre 2012 - 03:07 .


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Are you sure you're holding it the right way round?

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Typhoon is like M60 or M249 or harrier is like AK 47 , it is unreal that bigger bullet like M60 deal less damage than a AK , typhoon should have the highest damage and huge recoil (very inaccurate) to be a machine gun, now its not

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peddroelmz wrote...

Annomander wrote...

I'm not inclined to believe it was a bug, unless someone can point me to a developer source confirming it, in which case I'll retract my oberservation.


Not sure it made it to the forums directly (Eric Fagnan post) .. I do recall somebody at some point made a post claiming he got a reply to a PM he sent to Eric questioning him about the +recoil per level for the typhoon.. In this PM Eric replied they will look into the matter ..

Next week balance/fixes summary contained this

"Typhoon Assault Rifle
- Recoil no longer gets worse as the weapon levels up. "

So the PM story was probably true ..



Hmmm ok, it just struck me as it would be an ingenious way of them balancing the typhoon.

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TommyNg wrote...

Typhoon is like M60 or M249 or harrier is like AK 47 , it is unreal that bigger bullet like M60 deal less damage than a AK , typhoon should have the highest damage and huge recoil (very inaccurate) to be a machine gun, now its not


it used to be this exactly. Then it got nerfed to hell and is the questionable weapon it is now. 

Another instance of a gun that only shines in the hands of certain characters and specific builds for those charectos and sucks with everyone else.

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TommyNg wrote...

Typhoon is like M60 or M249 or harrier is like AK 47 , it is unreal that bigger bullet like M60 deal less damage than a AK , typhoon should have the highest damage and huge recoil (very inaccurate) to be a machine gun, now its not

 

 The caliber isn't everything, not to mention that those LMG and the AK are chambered in very similar caliber. Also it doesn't work like that in the MEverse.

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Typhoon is perfect as is. STOP THINKING 1 PERSON IS THE GAME AND OPEN UP YOUR MINDS NUBS!

Typhoon is a light machine gun. Its used to mow down entire groups of enemies. Use it with a teamate spamming detonators (human soldier works well with CC) while you prime everything with ammo. (SOMETHING BESIDES ARMOR PIERCING... ITS THE 3rd CRAPPIEST AMMO RIGHT NOW...)

This is also one of the few guns that make use of Exploding Rounds. Spray across groups of enemies back and forth... I thought nubs would love this...almost everything gets staggered and the damage accumulates if they are close enough, large clip and fast RoF ensure everything gets hit as well.

Since most of BSN has failed at even common sense I'll give them a list of combos that work well with typhoon.

-Turian Sentinel- Warp Expose/piercing- Incendiary ammo IV- Typhoon X ext clip/p.mod
-Asari Justicar (bubble) Reave AoE/Bubble Radius, Warp R6- Warp Ammo IV- Typhoon ext clip/p.mod
-Human/Turian Soldier Adrenaline Rush Shield boost R6/ Marksman RoF Almost any ammo/combo is fine, the j.a. does the work
-Volus Eng (not for nubs) Recon mine R6 I.scan, Drill Rounds - Typhoon P.mod/ext clip.
-N7 Demolisher- Dot R5 on grenades, R6 Homining debuff,
-Quarian Male/ eng/inf- Tac scan Tac scan Tac scan+ any ammo. Debuff R5 grenades.
-Geth Eng/ (Inf if you aren't a nub) Turret for shields(R6 can be flammer for closer quaters)/ hunter mode damage, incen/disruptor ammo for burst w overload
-Salarian Eng - Decoy ... yea it still works, and unload. W/e you want to support team.
-Turian Ghost Tac Cloak R6 AR boost, Stim Pack as see fit, Max weapon damage No overload. Great Primer with a Solo/Teamate as well as Damage use effective ammo. (ANYTHING but DRILL/APR.)
-Human Adepts(Singularity users) (also not for nubs) Warp Expose/Piercing, Singularity Radius,recharge,detonate- Incendiary/Warp rounds.
-Batarian/Krogan Van- Max barrier/B.armor DR. BC weapon R5/Shield R6 No lash/carnage. Max WD. One of the best survivalist with max fitness and DR. Low stagger helps maintain fire. Use teamate supporting ammo. BC when nessisary.

Every class can use the typhoon, and with good teamwork the typhoon shines best. People should learn to play the game and stop thinking everything is about looking like rambo. If you have any problems adapting to using the typhoon on any class/setup, then don't use it, or go to an easier difficulty. Nothings wrong with the weapon, its ALWAYS the player with this gun. Its not a solo weapon (though can be used as one). Its one of THE BEST teamwork guns.
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Klokos wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

Typhoon is like M60 or M249 or harrier is like AK 47 , it is unreal that bigger bullet like M60 deal less damage than a AK , typhoon should have the highest damage and huge recoil (very inaccurate) to be a machine gun, now its not

 

 The caliber isn't everything, not to mention that those LMG and the AK are chambered in very similar caliber. Also it doesn't work like that in the MEverse.


Yes , I forgot MEverse use magic space gun :wizard: they use thermal clip instead of magazine

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Anyone that knows how to use the PPR properly will make the Typhoon look like terribad joke.

Typhoon needs to be restored to its former multiplier period, or just reduced to a Rare.

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Your must be a faulty model, my typhoon IV destroys on the destroyer ... but I wont use that for a while since I've finished my 10 destroyer extractions and 200k with the 'foon

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My Typhoon III says, "No u."

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TommyNg wrote...

Even with a high velocity barrel and magazine size armor piercing ammo 4 , it is not great , just a average character can  kill better than this setup, it is good on platinium as most are slow boss unit they are easy to hit  . Of course it is gold viable but I cant use great to describe it.


Firstly, I'm not sure why you would take HVB and AP 4, they do the same thing.

I feel like your trolling. I have a Typhoon VIII and and wreck with it. Lose the HVB, equip shredder or extra ammo and HB. I prefer drill ammo on this puppy and wall hack all the things. Its actually discusting how good this gun is on the destryer.

Edit* I have a Typhoon VIII, not a Typhoon XIII Posted Image

Modifié par ParkMan609, 16 novembre 2012 - 04:58 .


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no reason to use a typhoon X when you have a PPR I, that's how bad the gun is

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cgj wrote...

no reason to use a typhoon X when you have a PPR I, that's how bad the gun is


Damn u , dont mention the gun name on this forum

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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

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The Typhoon is quite possibly the best gun when it comes to boss killing. Slap on an EB and AP mod (or AP ammo along with ext. mags) and you're good to go. That being said, I prefer the Revenant.


Nope. Black Widow, Javelin, Claymore, Piranha, Raider, Graal, GPS are MUCH better for boss killing

Oh, my, Graal and GPS. Go kill a golden Brute with that.

They ignore armor, can be charged for great damage and Graal deals insane amount of headshot damage. Use them with infiltrators.

 

Graal only gets +40% for headshots on bosses.

GPS doesn't get headshots at all.

Both are very very poor at killing bosses, even on infiltrators. All projectile weapons are.

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TommyNg wrote...

Typhoon is like M60 or M249 or harrier is like AK 47 , it is unreal that bigger bullet like M60 deal less damage than a AK , typhoon should have the highest damage and huge recoil (very inaccurate) to be a machine gun, now its not

Modern Time weapons are powder based weapons. Energy for the bullet comes from the shell/cartridge.

Mass effect weapons are based on accelerators. The energy of the bullet is only limited by the amount of energy you can put into the accelerator and transfer into the bullet via energy fields.

This is why your comparison fails. The Harrier could simply have the more powerful accelerator or simply does not care as much about heat generation as the Typhoon, which looks like it is a suppressive fire weapon based on it´s firing speed.

SPACE SCIENCE! :alien:

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ParkMan609 wrote...

Firstly, I'm not sure why you would take HVB and AP 4, they do the same thing.

I feel like your trolling. I have a Typhoon XIII and and wreck with it. Lose the HVB, equip shredder or extra ammo and HB. I prefer drill ammo on this puppy and wall hack all the things. Its actually discusting how good this gun is on the destryer.

HAXXOR! :wizard:

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Typhoon is fine as is. Get that thing spinning at full speed and you'll wreck any enemies you encounter. OP, have you tried pulling and holding down the trigger? I suspect that your opinion of the gun is from using it in melee combat only.

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Typhoon is a very good weapon.

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tivesz wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

The Typhoon is great.

L2P


Even after nerf ? Any video to support it

 

Here you go.


Pre-nerf Destroyers, if I'm not mistaken? The Typhoon is not a bad gun, but it really shined on the Destroyer....until they first nerfed the gun, then the Destroyer. With the Reduced RoF and/or Magazine size...not that big of a winnner now. 

 

I still use it after the nerf.

While the nerf was totally unwarranted, it's still a great combination.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

My brother almost vomited at how awful it was. Given how easily he accepted how bad the GPSMG and Eagle (back when it actually was a bad gun) were, this was really something.

I hate the gun too. It's worthless once you get a Revenant, which is a much more common weapon.

  

:lol: The Revenant. Please tell me you're joking.

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Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Since most of BSN has failed at even common sense I'll give them a list of combos that work well with typhoon.

-Turian Sentinel- Warp Expose/piercing- Incendiary ammo IV- Typhoon X ext clip/p.mod
-Asari Justicar (bubble) Reave AoE/Bubble Radius, Warp R6- Warp Ammo IV- Typhoon ext clip/p.mod
-Human/Turian Soldier Adrenaline Rush Shield boost R6/ Marksman RoF Almost any ammo/combo is fine, the j.a. does the work
-Volus Eng (not for nubs) Recon mine R6 I.scan, Drill Rounds - Typhoon P.mod/ext clip.
-N7 Demolisher- Dot R5 on grenades, R6 Homining debuff,
-Quarian Male/ eng/inf- Tac scan Tac scan Tac scan+ any ammo. Debuff R5 grenades.
-Geth Eng/ (Inf if you aren't a nub) Turret for shields(R6 can be flammer for closer quaters)/ hunter mode damage, incen/disruptor ammo for burst w overload
-Salarian Eng - Decoy ... yea it still works, and unload. W/e you want to support team.
-Turian Ghost Tac Cloak R6 AR boost, Stim Pack as see fit, Max weapon damage No overload. Great Primer with a Solo/Teamate as well as Damage use effective ammo. (ANYTHING but DRILL/APR.)
-Human Adepts(Singularity users) (also not for nubs) Warp Expose/Piercing, Singularity Radius,recharge,detonate- Incendiary/Warp rounds.
-Batarian/Krogan Van- Max barrier/B.armor DR. BC weapon R5/Shield R6 No lash/carnage. Max WD. One of the best survivalist with max fitness and DR. Low stagger helps maintain fire. Use teamate supporting ammo. BC when nessisary.

The bigger issue is that there are several weapons that are significantly better on all of those classes that do not weigh as much as a Mako.  Outside of the Ghost, why don't I take a lighter gun that can easily prime and actually does damage without requiring a spool up?  I could run Saber, which is pretty good at ammo priming, does good damage, is fairly accurate, and allows me to more easily cast in between shots.

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Typhoon is a good weapon, and I personally like using it, but I don't think it's good enough right now to be an Ultra-Rare. Fagnan said the Destroyer made it hard to balance weapons, and I think this is one of the main weapons he was referring to. Now that the Destroyer has been nerfed, the Typhoon should get a corresponding buff.

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TommyNg wrote...

Even with a high velocity barrel and magazine size armor piercing ammo 4 , it is not great , just a average character can  kill better than this setup, it is good on platinium as most are slow boss unit they are easy to hit  . Of course it is gold viable but I cant use great to describe it.


your using it wrong. yes high velocity barrel (the one with are 90% armor piercing) and magazine are correct, but armor piercing ammo? what?? use warp ammo.

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I use it with the Turian Soldier and its good with Marksman on any difficulty.