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UKStory135 wrote...

The Typhoon should be as good as the PPR, which in most cases, it isn't. I'm not saying that the Typhoon is bad, it just isn't as good as the PPR.


Which is why I go with my ppr x.

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It's decent but the Particle rifle still does the same thing way way better... and it's better vs mooks.

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Having both of them at X, I prefer the Typhoon for its aesthetics and ability to sustain fire. The Particle Rifle is a good gun that can do a lot of damage over time but the wait between charges bugs me.

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IronRush wrote...

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Typhoon X vs Platinum Atlas : http://www.youtube.c...u850Ip0#t=0m27s

OMG this weapon is so terrible !!!

The Destroyer got nerfed since then but not much has changed since that video was made before they fixed the ridiculous recoil. You just had to use extended mag + recoil dampener. Now you can use extended mag + extended barrel, which means 25% more damage.


Atlas is not the test. Huge target ignore one of the Typhoon's drawbacks.


I have little to no problems killing a Phantom using a Typhoon on a HSo. The only issue would come from other enemies blind siding and killing you, say an Atlas rocket or Dragoons.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Graal only gets +40% for headshots on bosses.

GPS doesn't get headshots at all.

Both are very very poor at killing bosses, even on infiltrators. All projectile weapons are.


all projectile weapons are poor at killing bosses even on infiltrators .... we must not be playing the same game

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megabeast37215 wrote...

It's decent but the Particle rifle still does the same thing way way better... and it's better vs mooks.


Actually this statement is false, The PPR needs to be sustained to get a leg up on typhoon when taking down mooks. If at any point you let go the trigger and start firing again, you'd have been better with the typhoon. The PPR only counters the typhoon in "long duration" sustained fire (bosses). Even then, your downtime waiting on the clip to reload sets you back while the typhoon has a much lower charge up and reload is faster than going from 1~full clip on a PPR.

Also keep in mind this is speaking about the weapons with equipment on. The PPR is horrible against everything naked, while the typhoon will penetrate cover, and do extra damage to s/b/a.

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Typhoon is pretty effective on the Geth Trooper... I don't see how it wouldn't be on the Destroyer.

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It's only worth using on the destroyer imo, and I'd rather use my three shot raider... Oh, wait...

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here is the prob

they nerfed the wep 2x
and they nerfed the destroyer who was designed around having that wep as there primary

so overall everything just crap the bed...

if you remember seeing the destroyer in the Earth DLC with the wep he looked like a BAMF with it, and after looking at the some of the skills the destroyer had, i knew then that class was built around the typhoon.

Increased RoF, Increased Mag size, Stagger immunity

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I still dont understsand the nerfing of weapons in a Coop game. It is annoying when some weapons just destroy things and other just do nothing yes but its a coop game..??? Its nice to have balance between weapons but when a gun that should be powerful as hell should be...

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Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

It's decent but the Particle rifle still does the same thing way way better... and it's better vs mooks.


Actually this statement is false, The PPR needs to be sustained to get a leg up on typhoon when taking down mooks. If at any point you let go the trigger and start firing again, you'd have been better with the typhoon. The PPR only counters the typhoon in "long duration" sustained fire (bosses). Even then, your downtime waiting on the clip to reload sets you back while the typhoon has a much lower charge up and reload is faster than going from 1~full clip on a PPR.

Also keep in mind this is speaking about the weapons with equipment on. The PPR is horrible against everything naked, while the typhoon will penetrate cover, and do extra damage to s/b/a.


If you're not abusing right hand advantage while using either weapon, you're doing it wrong. Right hand advatage lets me mow down entire spawns with the PPR and not take a shot. I can do the same thing with the Typhoon, but due to it's spread and vibrating/recoil... I feel it's actually harder. PPR can go from head to head to head quite easily. I don't mind the recharge time at all... I never run it out of ammo. Also, during the recharge time I can look around and check my surroundings or fire off a power.

Who doesn't use equipment anymore? I use equipment on bronze.... what else am I going to do with it. The only peices of equipment that I actually value/try to ration are Cyclonic Modulators, AR and Shotgun Rail Amp IIIs. Everything else I have loads of... even AP and Warp ammo IV.

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I always find it easier to aim the Typhoon... I have no idea why..

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I just played a game with my Typhoon X on my Cerbi Adept (Level 12), and it turned out better than I expected.

I think it is because I could easily stagger basics or ragdoll them with Singularity. So I could just let them float or burn, and shoot other things.

I am not sure that it turns out that it was any better than various other weapons I could have used... it still seems sort of humdrum for an ultra rare that weighs 2.0 at X and has a whonky spool up. I agree with the sentiment that the PPR largely does the same role, while weighing less, though.

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In my experience, I found the Striker or the Harrier to be a better match for the Destroyer. IMO, the Typhoon needs a buff.

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vliktor wrote...

In my experience, I found the Striker or the Harrier to be a better match for the Destroyer. IMO, the Typhoon needs a buff.


the Striker... better match for the Destroyer



the Striker... better



the Striker



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3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.


Very wrong here friend.
True AR?
Anyone can detonate the bigger level of difficulty easier than any other gun. Harrier makes the game MUCH more easier, like Krysae pre-nerf. This is wrong.


It is an UR, it should be powerful. It also has a huge drawback. If you fell this gun "overpowered", well, use BS like Phaeston then. 


Agreed. But comparing the current Harrier to the prenerf Krysae is just ridicules, you didn't have to aim with Krysae for gods sake. I'm not a fan of nerfs in general and didn't even care for the Krysae nerf but even I was annoyed when playing with peeps that would use nothing but the Krysae and am personally ticked off that since they abused it, now I gotta suffer and get my gun taken away.

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TeamLexana wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.


Very wrong here friend.
True AR?
Anyone can detonate the bigger level of difficulty easier than any other gun. Harrier makes the game MUCH more easier, like Krysae pre-nerf. This is wrong.


It is an UR, it should be powerful. It also has a huge drawback. If you fell this gun "overpowered", well, use BS like Phaeston then. 


Agreed. But comparing the current Harrier to the prenerf Krysae is just ridicules, you didn't have to aim with Krysae for gods sake. I'm not a fan of nerfs in general and didn't even care for the Krysae nerf but even I was annoyed when playing with peeps that would use nothing but the Krysae and am personally ticked off that since they abused it, now I gotta suffer and get my gun taken away.


So you think they are going to nerf the Harrier?

As to the Typhoon vs PPR comment by Ronnie - who in their right mind would have a level X Typhoon or PPR and not put equipment on the weapon?

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

It's decent but the Particle rifle still does the same thing way way better... and it's better vs mooks.


Actually this statement is false, The PPR needs to be sustained to get a leg up on typhoon when taking down mooks. If at any point you let go the trigger and start firing again, you'd have been better with the typhoon. The PPR only counters the typhoon in "long duration" sustained fire (bosses). Even then, your downtime waiting on the clip to reload sets you back while the typhoon has a much lower charge up and reload is faster than going from 1~full clip on a PPR.

Also keep in mind this is speaking about the weapons with equipment on. The PPR is horrible against everything naked, while the typhoon will penetrate cover, and do extra damage to s/b/a.


If you're not abusing right hand advantage while using either weapon, you're doing it wrong. Right hand advatage lets me mow down entire spawns with the PPR and not take a shot. I can do the same thing with the Typhoon, but due to it's spread and vibrating/recoil... I feel it's actually harder. PPR can go from head to head to head quite easily. I don't mind the recharge time at all... I never run it out of ammo. Also, during the recharge time I can look around and check my surroundings or fire off a power.

Who doesn't use equipment anymore? I use equipment on bronze.... what else am I going to do with it. The only peices of equipment that I actually value/try to ration are Cyclonic Modulators, AR and Shotgun Rail Amp IIIs. Everything else I have loads of... even AP and Warp ammo IV.


Both (all) weapons are better when using RHA, that doesn't split the guns weaknesses and strenghts, while the typhoon does take some adjustment to recoil, its over all early damage outbeats PPRs vs anything but bosses mainly due to faster reach of "hot" mode. During that reload time as well, the typhoon is already reloaded and back to its "hot" mode firing again at enemies. Typhoon is also more power class friendly, I've used it on human adepts and frequently use it on turian sentinel with warp spam.

Not making an issue of people not using equipment (alot of them dont still :?) but point out that the typhoon as a gun is better than most due to the perks the weapons have. While the PPR can barely drop a mook without some level III~IV equipment to back it up. The only drawbacks the typhoon has is its wieght, but then all "built in" piercing guns have this, as well as some shotguns that have special properties.

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ryoldschool wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

IronRush wrote...

The problem is that... Harrier is overpowred and is doing the others AR feels weaker.
Harrier don't need a specific class with weapon expertise. Any class, any skill can kill with this gun. This is the major problem.


No, Harrier is the True assault rifle and other ARs just suck.


Very wrong here friend.
True AR?
Anyone can detonate the bigger level of difficulty easier than any other gun. Harrier makes the game MUCH more easier, like Krysae pre-nerf. This is wrong.


It is an UR, it should be powerful. It also has a huge drawback. If you fell this gun "overpowered", well, use BS like Phaeston then. 


Agreed. But comparing the current Harrier to the prenerf Krysae is just ridicules, you didn't have to aim with Krysae for gods sake. I'm not a fan of nerfs in general and didn't even care for the Krysae nerf but even I was annoyed when playing with peeps that would use nothing but the Krysae and am personally ticked off that since they abused it, now I gotta suffer and get my gun taken away.


So you think they are going to nerf the Harrier?

As to the Typhoon vs PPR comment by Ronnie - who in their right mind would have a level X Typhoon or PPR and not put equipment on the weapon?


I'd slap a "witch" if they did, lol. I love my Harrier and like 3XT3RM1N4TUS said, if someone feels its "overpowered" then use something else. It being an UR and having very low ammo, in my opinion keeps it from being overpowered because unlike the pre nerf Krysae - which was being used as a comparasion - you actually have to AIM with it or you'll find yourself outta ammo and surrounded by enemies and if you get a stubborn ammo box map like Condor, you are not gonna have a good time, lol. 

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I'd slap a "witch" if they did, lol. I love my Harrier and like 3XT3RM1N4TUS said, if someone feels its "overpowered" then use something else. It being an UR and having very low ammo, in my opinion keeps it from being overpowered because unlike the pre nerf Krysae - which was being used as a comparasion - you actually have to AIM with it or you'll find yourself outta ammo and surrounded by enemies and if you get a stubborn ammo box map like Condor, you are not gonna have a good time, lol. 


I'd take a harrier nerf of  20 bullets out of extra ammo OR 16 rounds per clip instead of 20. Although its not needed, as you said, the harrier takes precision and slight effort to get the most out of it, even with large bullet damage and rof. The harriers main drawback is its "low clip" nerfing the damage would make the gun into a phaeston. (And not the type marauders have ^_^)

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TommyNg wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

Nope. Black Widow, Javelin, Claymore, Piranha, Raider, Graal, GPS are MUCH better for boss killing


Just when I thought it couldn't get any more stupid than the OP.

Well done.

Go ahead and defend not so great guns, retard.


I am glad someone agree with me :happy:

Great minds think alike, it seems...

/sarcasm

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i have a typhoon II and it rips through any defenses on any difficulty, you're doing wrong