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Saving the world from itself. Will DA3 be a more political story?


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Every since reading the entire ASOIAF series, I've just been amazed with feudalism and the politics involved with it. Now, I won't go and say I have a significant amount of knowledge in the area of politics, just that I love how things are played out. The only game that satisfies this for now is The Witcher (2 which I've always dubbed  "Game of Thrones with Dwarves and Elves" to anybody I'd talk to about it.) Baldur's Gate one also plays with this, but never to the scale of The Witcher 2.

Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect  failed a lot of times when it tried to implement any sort of political occurance. Dragon Age 2 because of the lack of direct influence we had in the plot (which was a problem with the entirety of the game to be honest) and Mass Effect  because of some major issues which just screamed "what the hell?" For example:

The Cereberus Coup was just a bad mistake, not even Udina would be stupid enough to execute such a futile approach of gaining 'support' for earth.

The Rannoch mission, though wonderful in every respect, lacked in just one bit of dialogue that could have redeemed the over-use of auto-dialogue: "This. Is. Stupid." Though wars are started because of stupid things (and I don't blame the writers for doing this) once again the lack of interactivity lowered the quality of what was a really great part of Mass Effect 3.

Speculation over the "ahh, yes, 'Reapers'" is just futile. We all know that this was just to open the door to Mass Effect 3's 'unprepared' universe. It would have been nice to have some foreshadowing, maybe hints here and there. A lot of cheesy plot turns can be prevented with a single line of dialogue, or just a little bit of information we get beforehand that hints towards this.

Origins though did this a lot better. We had influence over the Landsmeet, had a say during the process and the moves made by the Lords and Ladies weren't out of character. You can forgive something stupid (Ned Stark's demise) if it's in character.

Anyway BioWare, I hope it is. Religion and Politics are tricky themes to tackle, and I really it will be executed as it should be. The end of the world doesn't have to come from some big Dragon ALL the time... though Dragons are necessary of course. We couldn't have a fantasy game without a Dragon to slay :D

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I think it will be politics but something is supposedly behind it so it might have something else as well

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Dragon Age 2 did politics. That you couldn't influence it to everyone's satisfaction doesn't mean it wasn't a political story. It was about the politics of freedom and security and escalation of tensions between groups that lead to war, which as Clausewitz said is an extension of politics by other means.

The Landsmeet and its related quests were fun, and I like stuff like that. Would be neat to see something like that again.

That said, if you really want "A Song of Ice and Fire: The Game" the one you really ought to check out is Crusader Kings 2. Either vanilla or with the actual ASOIAF mod.

Edit:  That said, a lot of fantasy narratives are at their core about returning the world to the Great Status Quo that was upset by The Big Bad.  DA2 was fairly unique in that it was about how the Great Status Quo was broken and destroyed. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 16 novembre 2012 - 05:44 .


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I recently rented DotS and was interested (and actually rather pleased) to hear Mark Darrah (or Mike Laidlaw...I forget) state, in one of the special features, that they view the overarching DA narrative principally as a political one, which just happens to have dragons and magic thrown in...

As someone who found the more overtly political plot of DA2 more involving than that of DA:O, this affirmation was very welcome.

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A more political plot would be wonderful. Though the 'someone's behind the scene pulling the strings' business leads me to think that the actual driving force behind the world's problems will be less political and more something out to cause destruction.